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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v

Postby - Danny Boy - on Sun May 09, 2010 2:29 pm

Shame about needing headgasket doing, the rocker cover looks nice though :D I would love a polished one on mine, but cba to sit there for hourssssss doing it haha.
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Sun May 09, 2010 4:07 pm

lol you know what thats called?

being lazy! :lol:


heads back on and bolted down, had to use a protractor to do the 105 degree angle tightening llama
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v

Postby Ratspeed on Sun May 09, 2010 5:42 pm

When your elbow clicks its tight enough matey :lol:

You still after my ECU and HO at fitp or has this head gasket job ate all your cash!? :wink:
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v

Postby knuckles on Sun May 09, 2010 6:07 pm

glad your sticking with it and doing the head gasket.

just be thankful that oil gallery didnt leak into the water. could of got alot more messy :oooh:
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Mon May 10, 2010 2:18 am

knuckles :glad your sticking with it and doing the head gasket.

just be thankful that oil gallery didnt leak into the water. could of got alot more messy :oooh:



ugh f**k tell me about it, i just changed that oil, cost £30!, id of been so pissed if it contaminated it :x

and yea matt i still want the bits


ok noobish moment today, i got the new 2.0 cams, got the head back on and started to bolt the cams down, was doing inlet at the time, and it fudgekin snapped!

i was being a gammon slipper and tightning it wrong and the thing snapped clean in half :oops:

so pissed away 30 notes :x


but on a plus side, its running again and sounding sweet

cleaning the crowns and block surface
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got me new 2.0 cams and a spare series 2 rocker cover
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gave the combusion chambers a clean uop, but didnt go to into it as worth upsetting the spark plugs
before
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cylinder 1 was to blame, white effect
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cleaned up
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replacing the tappets
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mrs helping out again :Q
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gasket on
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using old head bolts with theyre heads cut off and tapped for a flat blade screwdriver techinque as a guide for fitting the head, i slotted it back on, then done the three bolt tightening stages using a protractor for the 3rd stage :lol:
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all done back up with timing done and cams back in
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the polished cover looks mint, im only focusing on the engine by for fitp as rest of the car is still in a s**t state
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all done, and running fine, still need to fit the auxillery belt though and needs new anti-freeze
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Video of engine ticking over

heres pic of the snapped 2.0 inlet cam :x
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should be back on the road tomorrow :Q :D for a week of long rrunning in
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- head gasket replaced and running

Postby RS rob on Mon May 10, 2010 7:59 am

No need for a week of running in,
you've only changed the headgasket and not touched the bottom end.

Just take your time for the first 50 miles
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- head gasket replaced and running

Postby Stemh on Mon May 10, 2010 9:46 am

Looks good mate! Good to see you got stuck in and sorted that gasket out! Should be running spot on for FITP!
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- head gasket replaced and running

Postby jonyb4 on Mon May 10, 2010 10:36 pm

cheers lads, im releaved about the 50miles then lol


slight problem though, its rather sluggish, hasnt got the power it had before, even when the gasket was knackered

could the timing be to fault if its retarded/advanced a bit?

the mark on the crank pully was very slightly out but both cams were spot on
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- head gasket replaced and running

Postby moondustka on Mon May 10, 2010 11:26 pm

Well done for getting it back together :) Glad it's running again!
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- head gasket replaced and running

Postby niracka on Mon May 10, 2010 11:27 pm

Could be just your one tooth from tdc or something. Can use a dial test indicator to find true tdc but the timing marks should do the job if you get them spot on.

Did you use new head bolts then or "gash" the old ones back in???

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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- head gasket replaced and running

Postby jonyb4 on Tue May 11, 2010 1:58 am

nah mate used new pattern bolts but used two of the old ones without a head to serve as a locating dowel so to speak :P
and then obviously removed them prior to new bolts fitting

and ofcourse a new gasket, but thats it lol

belt is only a month old so sod buying a new one, haynes never said anything about needing a new set of cam bolts



oh and my mate matt who helped on the sunday reminded me how we over tightened the camshaft bearing bolts as my large scale torque wrench only goes down to 28NM and haynes said to do them in two stages of 9NM and then 19NM :(

so i think i may have over tightened them which could account for the loss in power :aaah:

gonna pop to a mate tomorrow and see if i can borrow a smaller scale wrench

if that dont do it its gotta be the timing :rolleyes:
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- head gasket replaced and running

Postby Tweek on Tue May 11, 2010 6:00 pm

I always cheat finding TDC and stick a screwdriver down the first pot :lol:

If you have just 1 wheel jacked up, put it in gear and turn the wheel whilst you watch the screwdriver rise/fall. I'm asuming you did lock the cams with a flat bar anyway ;)
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- head gasket replaced and running

Postby jonyb4 on Tue May 11, 2010 6:59 pm

i locked the cams yea but not crank, not sure how you put the cams at tdc or what ever
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- head gasket replaced and running

Postby Ratspeed on Tue May 11, 2010 8:34 pm

jonyb4 :i locked the cams yea but not crank, not sure how you put the cams at tdc or what ever


You lock the cams with the bar, or 'tippex' if your lazy, then like Tweek said, remove no1 plug and pop a long screwdiver down the hole. Then turn the engine over by hand until the screwdriver is at its highest point, that is TDC.

Plus you dont need to lock the crank because its key-wayed :)
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- head gasket replaced and running

Postby jonyb4 on Tue May 11, 2010 11:48 pm

lol thats it?

just lock cams using flat bar, when the slot is able to be fitted with the bar, then TDC the first piston?


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f**k where were you earlier :D
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- head gasket replaced and running

Postby Tweek on Wed May 12, 2010 4:43 pm

That's it, it's very easy to time zetecs :)

You have to remember though that the crank turns twice to the cams turning once.
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- head gasket replaced and running

Postby jonyb4 on Thu May 13, 2010 12:55 am

yup

best to slacken off the cam pulleys i guess
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- head gasket replaced and running

Postby jonyb4 on Thu May 13, 2010 1:15 am

ok starting the final run, preps for Fitp

slight detailling before we had to go the cinema :lol:


black detailing on Cam cover
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needs a slight rub over with thinners/solvent
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EFI
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also painted underside of the bonnet, mk4's coem with a sheet of sound deadening, un ive removed this, underneath was mostly unpainted :oops: , finally got round to doing it, needs another coat before pics :oooh:

matt was round to help spraying the bumper up, its only a naff job as i cant afford to get it done professionaly in time for sunday, so them looking for faults might wanna start here :P
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like i said, my main focus is the engine bay
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going to be redoing the timing tomorrow, i hate not having it running at its best :x :aviator:

also laquering bumper, second coat underside of bonnet and hopefully wiring in my HORN at last! :P



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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- head gasket replaced and running

Postby Pumatt on Thu May 13, 2010 8:11 am

That bumper looks better in the picture :P
I shall be around tonight to help redo the timing.
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- head gasket replaced and running

Postby jonyb4 on Thu May 13, 2010 1:56 pm

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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- head gasket replaced and running

Postby jonyb4 on Sat May 15, 2010 1:17 am

well timing is all done today, pleanty of power back now so im happy, inlet cam was quite out and the exhaust werent accurate either

BAD matt! :lol: :bonkers:


im glad i learned how to do it, mind you i could have done with the cam pulley locking tool, using a screw driver jamme din a sproket doesnt do no one any favors :oooh:



other than that a few touches done today ready for sunday

bonnet sencond coat done, looks tons better
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didnt get too much done as the timing took up most my afternoon

also got this done to go with the small amount of red theme under the bonnet
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also i finally wired in my horn, its great im loving having it again im tooting it all the time :P
made my own loom for it as its easier than reading up wiring diagrams and taking my dash apart :rolleyes:
Just need to find a sticker with a horn print logo on it to keep the MOT guy happy
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also replaced my broken LED sidelight bulb, really dont last more then 6 months these, was starting to flicker, willow/XR2i babe and wayne will remmeber that one of mine went last year on the way to fitp lol, must be an annual thing :rolleyes:

also i resprayed my upper grill on the front as its chipped over time

its almost ready for sunday

just painting the calipers, final coat and laquering the bumper and then fitting, cleaning inside and out so please let weather be good, mrs is on point with that lol , is all going on tomorrow
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- the aim is 140bhp

Postby jonyb4 on Sat May 22, 2010 10:10 am

time id post up about the recent comings

the drive up to fiesta in the park was a fun one, sharing the trip sure makes it more entertaining :)

matt practicly lives at my garage :lol:
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he bought and fitted new array of lights for the front, and toyed with the look of removing his grill
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i think it looks good like that, some black meshing in there and hes sorted

tested that splitter i bought a while ago, but it aint for me, too square and chavvy
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back to red witht he golf splitter making a come back :Q
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and its all ready for fitp

drove to strensham services north of tewksbury to meet wayne by 5:50, so we had to leave port talbot by 4:00 :oooh:

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i swear matt on the cam must have been pissed :rolleyes: :lol:
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the chorley services, meet up with steve in his ghia X, was a few good looking fords here too, aaron from f4oc and Brad from fiestaguides tagged along as dean was late, no supprises then :rolleyes:
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back on the road
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in there hundreds
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i didnt take many pics, but a small sweep round what i did, some of my favorites, the Ka was a very suble car, i liked this
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400bhp in a front wheel drive! :Q
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read this mk1 in FF, well it was the FF stand :bonkers:
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back at 'camp'
that mk5 was simply stunning, alot of work has been spent on that, and it shows :aviator:
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the car gained a few mods whilst being on stand lol
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fitting a few things i collected at fitp

extended wheel studs, not the easiest things to fit ive found, they dont pull through very well, i tightened them as far was i was willing to with the wheels on, still not in all the way, then hammered them to death still not much better, so ill drive round for a week then retighten the nuts incase they pull through any more, only half the spline is in the hub :oops:
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thanks to steve, new componants including crossovers, tweeters and woofers JBL gto series, the exsact ones i was shopping for online before lol
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thanks to matt/ratspeed for the inlet piping, sillies and ERST chargecarrier, also a H.O zetec inlet
but the drive home with the chargecarrier fitted i found it to be a bit restrictive, so its off for now, i think it would suit a 1.6 zetec better where not as much air is needed to be drawn in

but still using part of his stuff
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matt fitting his new rear hub axle spacers to the puma, he got 12.5mm ones, you add them tot he exsisting puma 10mm ones, but pumaspeed supplied incorrect lengthed studs so he had to rob some of mine so my arb is gonna be rattling around a bit longer lol
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the addition of STICKERS!
my 'actual shopping list' only parts ive actually fitted will go here :rolleyes: :lol:
NGK and Castrol, want a ford one now
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oh so true, i realised, the only part on the car i can think of thats simply been bought and bolted on, no fussing or alterations to it or the car, is the zetec s rear bumper :rolleyes:
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new inlet
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thank heaven that you supplied the throttle body bolts matt id have been a bit stuck without them, my 2.0 tb on my 1.6 inlet is botched on with garden bolts

my intake options, im still deciding how to go about it, i dont want to keep using the standard for much longer, might try the bannana with the sillicon, and a green cotton filter
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- the aim is 140bhp

Postby Ratspeed on Sat May 22, 2010 6:09 pm

Looks good Jony, but stop being a gay and put the ERST crossover pipe on! Mine ran an easy 150hp with it! :lol:
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- the aim is 140bhp

Postby jonyb4 on Sun May 23, 2010 2:37 am

lol whos gay?!

not sure mate seems restritive, but f**k i cant tell any more lol

i got the bannana on it atm lol with the sillicon on the end for the maf lol
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- the aim is 140bhp

Postby russ-RST on Sun May 23, 2010 3:35 pm

this is a credit to you showing how much you can achieve if you really want it engine looks sweet mate and the cars looking good :) i have a frascatti in the mint greeen (the mk3 you used to own) and i love it to bits and can't wait my engine conversion after looking at this :D
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- the aim is 140bhp

Postby Ratspeed on Sun May 23, 2010 3:38 pm

jonyb4 :lol whos gay?!

not sure mate seems restritive, but f**k i cant tell any more lol

i got the bannana on it atm lol with the sillicon on the end for the maf lol


Made no difference on mine compared to the standard one mate, shut it and get it to 140+ bhp :lol:
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- the aim is 140bhp

Postby jonyb4 on Sun May 23, 2010 11:11 pm

smidydevil :this is a credit to you showing how much you can achieve if you really want it engine looks sweet mate and the cars looking good :) i have a frascatti in the mint greeen (the mk3 you used to own) and i love it to bits and can't wait my engine conversion after looking at this :D
keep it up mate! :Q


ha thanks mate, yea theyre tidy cars with something more than a 1.1 and a good leccy pack



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jonyb4 :lol whos gay?!

not sure mate seems restritive, but f**k i cant tell any more lol

i got the bannana on it atm lol with the sillicon on the end for the maf lol


Made no difference on mine compared to the standard one mate, shut it and get it to 140+ bhp :lol:


pimsle i shall mate, hopefully, think im best getting a 1.8/2.0 lambda soon as the 1.3 one cant be helping its hunting on idle
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- the aim is 140bhp

Postby fiestajames on Mon May 24, 2010 10:14 am

class mate just read thou your tread
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- the aim is 140bhp

Postby mrorange2 on Mon May 24, 2010 2:02 pm

140BHP is about my aim as i'm sure mines running about 40bhp at the moment lol.

First to reach it gets a mars bar :P
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- the aim is 140bhp

Postby Ratspeed on Mon May 24, 2010 8:34 pm

mrorange2 : i'm sure mines running about 40bhp at the moment lol.



:lol: its not that bad mate!
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- the aim is 140bhp

Postby mrorange2 on Mon May 24, 2010 8:57 pm

Ok about 55bhp then
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- the aim is 140bhp

Postby Ratspeed on Mon May 24, 2010 9:38 pm

I'll race you in the bus then! :lol:
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- the aim is 140bhp

Postby Dave G fsi on Mon May 24, 2010 10:18 pm

Cars looking awesome mate, looked lovely at fitp too! :Q
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- the aim is 140bhp

Postby jonyb4 on Mon May 24, 2010 10:43 pm

fiestajames :class mate just read thou your tread


cheers mate :Q

mrorange2 :140BHP is about my aim as i'm sure mines running about 40bhp at the moment lol.

First to reach it gets a mars bar :P


haha cant be that bad, mines feeling sluggish atm too, cant tell if its just me or what, want to blame under bonnet temps in this heat and heat soak :(
make it a snickers and your on :Q

Dave G fsi :Cars looking awesome mate, looked lovely at fitp too! :Q


cheers dave, didnt see you or the car you brought, im guessing the Si? cheers though means something if your saying it for sure lol


i need to sort things out with the car, a brake disc is warped (passengers i think), juddering the wheel like mad under braking, anoying
the rear arb is banging around like heck, so will try and tackle that soon, sick of wrapping it in cloths to null it lol
and the front and rear tyres are all to bit for it they rub over bumps too much
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Re: My fiesta, mk4 Zetec 16v -- the aim is 140bhp

Postby Dave G fsi on Mon May 24, 2010 10:54 pm

Ah well, keeps you busy mate :rolleyes: :lol:

I was on the si club stand in my si mate :aviator:
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