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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby H3AL3Y on Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:49 am

I know :cry: anyway im off to sleep now and your car is looking mint. I love the smoothed tailgate, thats something im going to look into after I have done everything else that I want to do.
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:30 pm

lol cheers mate
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby XRMike on Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:31 pm

As regards to the wiring, the zetec management from the Fiesta is a standalone unit, the escort may be similar too. When removing your hcs engine, try and find the big mulit plug that separates the engine wiring from the bulkhead wiring, then you need to find out what colour wires do what.
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby MB7201 on Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:58 pm

There is no big multiplug, it goes directly to the fusebox. You should investigate the fuse box. I seem to remember if you take it out there is a massive hole underneith where you could take the escort ecu plug through. If there is then using the escort loom will probably be better as the ecu is in the same position
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:05 am

cheers guys, got a little more on the loom in a sec...

a little snowed over, even after a bit of driving
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the green mk3's brakes are all adjusted up working fine even locking the rear end up after just two clicks, the car is fully ready to hit the mot (guy in the face)
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taken it round the block, must say she drives well, even nippier than mine too lol, must be my alloys :x and im loving the pas on it

ok update on the engine loom, its looking very horrifing so far

ill let the pics take over

the injector connectos had a plastic cover over some, so had to remove it and tape up the wires:
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an over view of what i connected, and whats left
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what i have connected
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does anyone have any clue wghat these ones i aint done are for, or where they connect? either the escort had considerably more plugs are it will be come clearer that the car has some connections on it too?
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:45 am

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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby lucasdemoley on Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:12 am

Lol I recognise all those bits fourth pic up!

What bits do you still have to connect bud? When I did my engine conversion I connected up the fuel injectors wrong, with one of them on the PAS sensor ect, which is quite easily done.
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:29 pm

What bits do you still have to connect bud?


thats what im asking lol, i dont know what they are

and i aint wired the injectors wrong, i remeber taking them off, i laybeled them :rolleyes:
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:22 pm

almost everything has been gathered now,

picked up last of the (hopefully) PAS piping today, the one with the sensor on it, also lucas kindly threw in a inlet gasket too :), anoyingly ive already ordered one but meh, nice to have a spare? both ford parts too :D

but when i got home, i found that i had one of these pipes already attached to my mk4 pas steering rack, mind on the mk4 it doesnt go over the top like on a mk3 zetec, it goes under the left of the engine, the sensor plugs look similar

got some gaskets, rocker cover, inlet x2, exhaust and inlet studs x8 and a auxiliery belt coming tomorrow all genuine ford parts

the engine loom from a si is on its way in the post thanks to Steveboy

then thats everything, as far as im aware, im sure somethign else will pop up

ive also got a K&N "banana" 57i induction kit coming tomorrow thanks to RS Rob

this arrived friday,
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its either the RS turbo part or RS1800, was told its the RST but i was under the impression they had the RS turbo logo embossed on the centr cap, and theyre grey and black?

non the less its an RS leather steering wheel, but painfully it wont fit on due to the locking "cog's" being a different size, compaired to my old wheel the mk4 item is much larger, so it wont lock when parked.
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anyone know of a remedy for this?
i was thinking of swapping my lock for a mk3 item?

well for the conversion, it will be started on thursday, 1.3 HCS engine out, and 1.8 Zetec going in

i know some wanted a full parts list and costs etc, so ill do a good picture count before it goes in, probs while im replacing the gaskets

the green mk3 is going in for its mot tomorrow, may pass or ill get a few more things to rectify, im not sure lol, but all on my failure sheet is done :Q
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby FiestaBen on Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:38 am

Good luck with the mot on the green one

The zetecs beginning to come together now, will be good when its in, nice increase in power under your foot :Q Be interesting to see how much your insurance goes up though?

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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby Tweek on Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:25 pm

The wheel is from a XR2i 16v or early RS1800

FRST wheels were grey leather and had 'turbo' on the centre cap.
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:44 pm

aye thought rst's were grey and black centred, must be a RS1800 then, remember the lad saying rs lol


cheers ben,

but sadly it failed, seems an earth on the injector module has come loose, making the car idle funny and at times rev up wildly, so failed on over fueling, two discoloured front indicators :rolleyes: (woops) a badly secured drivers rear brake flexy pipe (again woops, the mk3 one on it had blocked so i used a mk4 one) and a track rod end bush was passed it, so its slightly delaying the engine job till its snorted :)

was interesting finding out why it was idling funny, even got a nasty shock from the earth :oooh: finger was tingling for ages lol
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:47 am

ok about to go in the garage for a transformation
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thanks to Rs rob for a hand in getting some ford parts
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fitted the new inlet gaskets and bolted it all up with the new bolts
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today i started to remove the engine, making the mistake of thinking i could do so without removing the gearbox, so gonna have to gett he wheels off, thent he shafts and take the box out too

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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonboisescort on Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:41 am

:Q :Q glad to see your getting started

and you will find it so much easier with the si loom

good luck with it :D
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:48 am

yea, part of the si loom has arrived, just waiting on the second part, injectors and sensor loom :)

cheers for the comments
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby lucasdemoley on Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:51 am

Nice to see it comming along.

A big angle grinder could get the engine out a little quicker though, lol!
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:13 pm

lol noo

i want it reversable, incase something doesnt go to plan and i have to put my old engine back in
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby lucasdemoley on Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:13 pm

I'm guessing you would like your front wings in once piece still too lol!

This will all start getting interesting when you have to line the zorst up!
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:11 pm

lol nah as this is gonna be used again :P

ok little sit rep

engine is out and so is the gearbox, me and my grampa been at it today, quite pleased it come out with no issues
also the steering racks been removed
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seeing what the mount would sit like and seeing if the header tank would still fit, luckily it does, but needs some trimming on the mount of the tank
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i need to drill a hole in the chassis leg, and fit a long bolt, plating each side and using some spacers
then weld the mounting plate to the suspension turret and use three bolts for extra strength, as im not sure how well my mig will penetrate the thick metal here
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i will then need to cut out the exsisting mk4 mount and drill holes for the front mount after ive offered the engine upto mark out where exsactly, but i still need to think of a way to mount the pas res tank
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another matter is, theres a mount for the drivers driveshaft, not sure if one comes on a mk3 zetec, id imagine so, but the one off the hcs is bit of a job to fit to the zetec engine
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with some spacers it could fit, but not sure if thats where it needs to be, i think its more to the right

will be bolting the box to the engine and offering it up to mark where the mounts need to be welded

watch this space :aviator:
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby Ratspeed on Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:20 pm

looking good matey. I keep thinking of putting the RS1800 engine in the estate. Sleeper time! :Q
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:33 am

ha DO IT! :D

updatey

bolted the gear box uptot he engine and cut away at some of the offending sandwich plate behind the flywheel to allow for the starter motor, then got it lifted in tothe engine bay to test everything fits in and to mark where the moutns need to be welded
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about as close as it would in a mk3
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exhaust offered up and under view
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gearbox positioned with some pilot bolts to locate it
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is this how it should sit? level and height wise? i think it is, but wanna be sure before any welding is done
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and offering the mount up and marking where is should be welded
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tomorrow im gonna be test fitting the driveshafts and if they go in level and straight ill be happy the engine is level and drop it out, fit the PAS rack and then a guy is coming wednesday to do the welding using a higher ampage mig and some 3mm plates, ill then have to make a small bracet to mount the driveshaft onto the back of the engine

all for now :Q
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:56 am

im lacking comments :cry:
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby - Danny Boy - on Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:20 pm

lol aww poor you! :lol: Comments will roll in soon!

The engine does look pretty level, you will soon find out when you put the bonnet back on and shut it. If it shuts then your sorted! If not, then you got a problem :lol:

Overall, it looks ace so far :D
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby dontpannic on Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:01 pm

jonyb4 :im lacking comments :cry:


Not many of us are nocturnal Jon :P

btw, grille arrived today :) cheers!!
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby mtbdean on Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:21 pm

Looking good Jon!
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:18 pm

dontpannic :
jonyb4 :im lacking comments :cry:


Not many of us are nocturnal Jon :P

btw, grille arrived today :) cheers!!


AHAH init! went to bed at 5 wokr at 4 today :oooh:

god i need a job lol

and fooking hell only sent it yesterday, lol first class ftw!


- Danny Boy - :lol aww poor you! :lol: Comments will roll in soon!

The engine does look pretty level, you will soon find out when you put the bonnet back on and shut it. If it shuts then your sorted! If not, then you got a problem :lol:

Overall, it looks ace so far :D


believe it or not, that aint my biggest worry, im more concerned with it its sitting level, so i dont f**k up the cars centre of gravity, it will have such an effect on its cornering :oooh:

cheers for good comments lads
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:21 pm

Got me new auxiliery belt 1.6 si pas model
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and picked up a new throttle position sensor for the mk3 for £10, ford wanted £140 for this new!! :o
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the cat wondering what i was doing :rolleyes:
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im focusing on the mk3 for tomorrow, as it looks like im gonna be driving it a while
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby MK3-MATT on Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:25 pm

Coming along well, hope all is hunky dory when come to getting it running! :)
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:35 pm

cheers mate, your not the only one whos hoping that :)

little update

was putting the new brake flexy ont he mk3 and i realised i had lost my clips, so me and my grampa popped to the scrappy in bridgend to get some
3 for £1 :lol:
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before we left i wanted so have a little look around for "some talent" spotted a mondeo st24, noticed the rear discs were missing, nice big engine and a lush interior, then realised the brakes might fit, gave wayne a ring to ask if he knew, told me to test fit it to a fiesta around the yard, so removed them and a escort done the job as the brakes were already off, the hubs need drilling out a bit

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gonna pick them up tomorrow for £50 :Q little rusty discs but it aint too deep careful braking for a few miles :rolleyes:

also the tape i order on ebay come today, gonna wrap the loom that shows in the red for under the bonnet :Q
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby lucasdemoley on Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:21 pm

Be very carefull about using used disks/ pads as you may find the disks to be warped etc. Also, if the vehicle has been sat for a long time the pads may have 'degraded' and gone very brittle, and could possible fracture/ fail in the future.

Just thought I'd mention it!
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:31 pm

cheers


thought id clear up while im here, seems some ppl have thought i bought that throttle position sensor for my 1.8

lol its for the 1.3 mk3 :lol:
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:33 pm

ok, had to take the engine back out to get the Pas rack in and the mount welded up
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marked out the mount place
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this has gotta be cut out
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heres my rack :wink: :lol:
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so removed the sensor pipe and fitted the mk3 item, comparison between pas and non pas models
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fitting it ive realised a problem
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the joint on the rack is much larger than the flexy joint thing on the bottom of the steering coloum one on my car
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so will have to go get one off a pas model car, they unbolt under the footwell with a 13mm bolt

heres my new brakes, i will do as much rubbing and sanding to get most of the rust off before i use them, a rebuild is even possible for the calipers :Q
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v BIG BRAKES!

Postby Excursion on Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:20 pm

You haven't half made life difficult for yourself by fitting a Series 2 :)

Looks like you're doing a good job so far, though.
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v BIG BRAKES!

Postby mrorange2 on Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:30 pm

Look good mate keep up the good work
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v BIG BRAKES!

Postby mtbdean on Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:54 am

Like the cat :P

Ohhh, engines looking good Jony, cant wait to see the final product
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