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[leighk2010]

yea i know that, what i was saying is, it will be more expensive to go blacktop, its a newer engine, and mostly because ti come in the focus and mondeo mainly, both are still quite expensive still, focus 2.0l are still over 1.5k. mondeo mk3's are similar

there is plenty of blacktop engines around from the £150/300 and for just over £700/800 can get a brand new one on a crate still

[Ratspeed]

yea i know that, what i was saying is, it will be more expensive to go blacktop, its a newer engine, and mostly because ti come in the focus and mondeo mainly, both are still quite expensive still, focus 2.0l are still over 1.5k. mondeo mk3's are similar

I'm sure the mk3 mondies dont use the black top mate. but i know what you mean about the price comparison

[jonyb4]

thinkt ehy did, the blacktop was in production till '06

[Ratspeed]

thinkt ehy did, the blacktop was in production till '06

Nah mate, even the early Y reg ones use the chain drive lump (1.8 and 2.0)

Used in the focus maybe until 06

[jonyb4]

ah right,t he duratecs then

i see now on my engine chart next to me FACE!

its head height next to my pc

123bhp on the 1.8 and 143 on the 2.0 not shabby at all

[leighk2010]

WOOP have now won a very cheap 2.0 blacktop of ebay with the mount i need as well engine is on 160k so will be really just used as a mock engine but for £22 who can complain link to said engine

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 642wt_1139

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RE: ABS.

- Buy a non-ABS master cylinder complete with reservoir.
- Disconnect the ABS unit multiplug and protect with a bag or something. Ideally, and if you're removing it for good, trace back all the wires to the fuse box and cut them off/secure them.
- Remove the four wires leading to the rear seat area, but leave the grommet in to keep moisture out of the car.
- Make up new brake lines for the front brakes, and to join the rear lines from the bulkhead area to the new non-ABS MC

You did well there for £22, really well! I need some of that stuff, let me know if you want to sell:

PAS mounting bracket & bolts,
PAS pipes,
A/C pump mounting bracket & bolts
Alternator mounting bracket & bolts.
Rad fans

FYI the engine mount will be OK for mock up, but not for use. The Mondeo/Cougar side mount is a softer grade than the Focus; Mondeo/Cougar use additional mounts on the gearbox side.

[leighk2010]

RE: ABS.

- Buy a non-ABS master cylinder complete with reservoir.
- Disconnect the ABS unit multiplug and protect with a bag or something. Ideally, and if you're removing it for good, trace back all the wires to the fuse box and cut them off/secure them.
- Remove the four wires leading to the rear seat area, but leave the grommet in to keep moisture out of the car.
- Make up new brake lines for the front brakes, and to join the rear lines from the bulkhead area to the new non-ABS MC

You did well there for £22, really well! I need some of that stuff, let me know if you want to sell:

PAS mounting bracket & bolts,
PAS pipes,
A/C pump mounting bracket & bolts
Alternator mounting bracket & bolts.
Rad fans

FYI the engine mount will be OK for mock up, but not for use. The Mondeo/Cougar side mount is a softer grade than the Focus; Mondeo/Cougar use additional mounts on the gearbox side.

cheers for the info on the abs chance are will be removed for good so will trace it back and cut it out from back of the fuse box.

and i have emailed the guy saying if he wants to take some bits and sell them on he can but if he says i can have the lot then ill sell you them bits you need no problem mate

and also thanks for the mount information as well have been thinking bout maybe just getting the viber techni mount for the focus seen them go for around £100

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cheers for the info on the abs chance are will be removed for good so will trace it back and cut it out from back of the fuse box.

and i have emailed the guy saying if he wants to take some bits and sell them on he can but if he says i can have the lot then ill sell you them bits you need no problem mate

and also thanks for the mount information as well have been thinking bout maybe just getting the viber techni mount for the focus seen them go for around £100

May as well get the Vibratechnic mount for the FRS then, mate. It's something like £100 more, but if you're going the RS route anyway...

[leighk2010]

cheers for the info on the abs chance are will be removed for good so will trace it back and cut it out from back of the fuse box.

and i have emailed the guy saying if he wants to take some bits and sell them on he can but if he says i can have the lot then ill sell you them bits you need no problem mate

and also thanks for the mount information as well have been thinking bout maybe just getting the viber techni mount for the focus seen them go for around £100

May as well get the Vibratechnic mount for the FRS then, mate. It's something like £100 more, but if you're going the RS route anyway...

not 100% sure if going rs route am really liking the idea of a supercharged as dont see many zetec been charged

but main thing is to get it all in the car and working first and enjoy it then will probs use this mock engine and rebuild it up wish i had the cash like you did and just buy a new on the crate blacktop

[leighk2010]

cheers for the info on the abs chance are will be removed for good so will trace it back and cut it out from back of the fuse box.

and i have emailed the guy saying if he wants to take some bits and sell them on he can but if he says i can have the lot then ill sell you them bits you need no problem mate

and also thanks for the mount information as well have been thinking bout maybe just getting the viber techni mount for the focus seen them go for around £100

May as well get the Vibratechnic mount for the FRS then, mate. It's something like £100 more, but if you're going the RS route anyway...

few more little questions for you mark after reading what you have put on nomads ka project.

i have a slivertop 1.8 sump and pick up pipe here but you said the blacktop sump is better? so is it worth just selling this sump on?

also for the gearbox i have the zs box and shafts which come with the shell will this bolt up to the black op or what bell housing would i need for this?. If not will it also be best to sell this box and shafts etc what box would you recommend as need to get the box etc before can get the mock engine up to see were the mount needs to be

thanks again mate

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i have a slivertop 1.8 sump and pick up pipe here but you said the blacktop sump is better? so is it worth just selling this sump on?

also for the gearbox i have the zs box and shafts which come with the shell will this bolt up to the black op or what bell housing would i need for this?. If not will it also be best to sell this box and shafts etc what box would you recommend as need to get the box etc before can get the mock engine up to see were the mount needs to be

The Series 3 had many changes to make the overall engine structure stronger, as one of the main complaints about the series 1/2 engines was that as the capacity went up, engine smoothness went down (the 2.0 really is rougher than the sweet 1.6).

The series 3 sump is a lot stiffer and adds to the overall strength of the engine as a whole, it also has improved oil baffling which you need if you're on track a lot of the time.

Why don't you fit an MTX box? You have one coming with the engine.

[leighk2010]

i have a slivertop 1.8 sump and pick up pipe here but you said the blacktop sump is better? so is it worth just selling this sump on?

also for the gearbox i have the zs box and shafts which come with the shell will this bolt up to the black op or what bell housing would i need for this?. If not will it also be best to sell this box and shafts etc what box would you recommend as need to get the box etc before can get the mock engine up to see were the mount needs to be

The Series 3 had many changes to make the overall engine structure stronger, as one of the main complaints about the series 1/2 engines was that as the capacity went up, engine smoothness went down (the 2.0 really is rougher than the sweet 1.6).

The series 3 sump is a lot stiffer and adds to the overall strength of the engine as a whole, it also has improved oil baffling which you need if you're on track a lot of the time.

Why don't you fit an MTX box? You have one coming with the engine.

so defo worth just selling the sump i have then

would it take much work to fit?

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so defo worth just selling the sump i have then

would it take much work to fit?

No, not really. It's especially easy in a ZS as a lot of the features suit the 'box anyway.

Just a couple of custom brackets, the MTX gear linkage, and then have the driveshafts shortened (£150 IIRC)

[leighk2010]

so defo worth just selling the sump i have then

would it take much work to fit?

No, not really. It's especially easy in a ZS as a lot of the features suit the 'box anyway.

Just a couple of custom brackets, the MTX gear linkage, and then have the driveshafts shortened (£150 IIRC)

how much would the brackets be to be made? am tempted have heard the mtx box are good boxes and very strong

[jonyb4]

i was todl that the escort running gear my 1.8 come with was an MTX box, if its true, the mtx has very different mountings tot he mk4/5 fiesta gearbox, it will require tremendous alterations, i beleive the mk6 escort used a gearbox cradle much like the mk3 fiesta?

the mk5 has nothing in means of front crossmembers and holes int he bulk head to support a cradle like that.

the fiesta mk4/5 diesel gearbox is a winner, like matt said earlier its strong enough for 200bhp as proven by jenny's ZT puma

i beleive it also uses the diesel shafts, and a four paddle clutch


id recommend the four paddle clutch as my 1.8 ate the diesel mk4 fiesta clutch and it would have been completely expired by the end of 6 months (while my 1.8 was in the mk4)

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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ford-focus-gearbo ... 3a5fd02d26

[leighk2010]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ford-focus-gearbox-2-0-zetec-/250715581734?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a5fd02d26

what box is this mate mtx?

[jonyb4]

well he did post it at the relevent time

[leighk2010]

what i was thinking lol still need to get in touch with the guy i won this engine off see when i can go pick it up as belive this is coming with mtx box

[jonyb4]

for £22!!!!

[leighk2010]

hehe o yes!! dont think he happy with how much it went for tbh lol but s**t happens should of put a reserve on it

[jonyb4]

lol, yea true, i werent happy that my mk6 escort pas steering rack sold for a poxy 0.99p!! and £10 postage

yet again i and maybe this chap need the storage

[leighk2010]

thats the problem with ebay if you for get reserve it and it goes for 0.99 your in a contract to sell for that has jsut sent him another mail asking when can come and get it dont think it will all fit in the g/fs fiesta tho

[jonyb4]

not with a box fitted to it no lol

maybe if you lay the seats down, yet againt hat will be hard to manuver into the back

[leighk2010]

moving it around in back should not be hard the guy got a engine hoist but he still aint got back to me yet

[leighk2010]

mark have just got that ecu you linked me to

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 915wt_1139

£28 posted

so all i need to do is take the transponder out of my key and place into this key and all should work? just looked and some people are selling the transponder with the de-code ring around the barrel i should not need this right?

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mark have just got that ecu you linked me to

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 915wt_1139

£28 posted

so all i need to do is take the transponder out of my key and place into this key and all should work? just looked and some people are selling the transponder with the de-code ring around the barrel i should not need this right?

No, that's a common misconception. Chip and ECU is all you need

[leighk2010]

cheers mate so when i get it and plug it all in and sway the chips as i have no engine in yet will i no its working if turn the key and dash etc all light up? as sure the pats would stop that happing if kicked in ?

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cheers mate so when i get it and plug it all in and sway the chips as i have no engine in yet will i no its working if turn the key and dash etc all light up? as sure the pats would stop that happing if kicked in ?

Yes for sure you can check that PATS has been disabled as the clock light will go out as normal. You will more than likely get a check engine light, though, if everything is disconnected.

[leighk2010]

cheers mate fingers crossed it works as think your on to summit good here for people wanting to 2.0 the fiesta mk4/5 in a much better way than just chopping looms up etc

[jonyb4]

well not really as it only applies to the zetec s loom

as this way wouldnt have helped me with my little 1.3 hcs engine loom

the clocks little red light will go out if its working ok yea

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well not really as it only applies to the zetec s loom

as this way wouldnt have helped me with my little 1.3 hcs engine loom

It would, it's exactly the same principle. There are a few pin differences, but they are both EECV architecture.

[jonyb4]

infact your right, i see now on my engine chart!

FU CK!

[jonyb4]

so lets take my mk4 project, id fit the 1.8 change some ecu plug sires around, and fit a blacktop 1.8 ecu and chip?

or further more 2.0l one for a more useable map