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Re: MK3 2.3 Duratec-Turbo. All ok now! 11/12/08
glad its sorted
i eat $hit when workin on cars
been workin on a scenic today eating bicys and drinking coke
to keep me calm
bloody renault,s
got to take the engine out to change the gearbox
i eat $hit when workin on cars
been workin on a scenic today eating bicys and drinking coke
to keep me calm
bloody renault,s
got to take the engine out to change the gearbox
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Re: MK3 2.3 Duratec-Turbo. All ok now! 11/12/08
Smo : And what is Tuc?
They're lovely cheese crackers with a delicious artery-clogging filling made with some kind of processed "cheese" of course
jonboisxr2i :
got to take the engine out to change the gearbox
I'm feeling your pain!
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Re: MK3 2.3 Duratec-Turbo. All ok now! 11/12/08
i feel the pain too lol
im the opposite when i work on the car i dont eat even if i working for 12 hours in my garage btu i know when my arms hurt and i cant lift them time to eat
lol
im the opposite when i work on the car i dont eat even if i working for 12 hours in my garage btu i know when my arms hurt and i cant lift them time to eat
lol
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Re: MK3 2.3 Duratec-Turbo. All ok now! 11/12/08
Had a productive last couple of days and now (at last! ) the gearbox is fitted to the engine
All required shims have been made + fitted and the diff turns exactly as it should now, as does the rest of the gearset.
This morning I fitted the new speedo sensor trigger ring, firstly the diff bearings had to be removed from the diff.
Then the ring was fitted onto the diff, followed by the bearing - this was then pressed home by the hydraulic press.
Lucky I changed diffs actually because the later MK3 Mondeos didn't have a Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) in the gearbox so there was no trigger ring either - I'd have never known that, had I not stripped the 'box down!
Here's where we're up to today - Engine & 'box joined together, starter motor also fitted.
I need to visit the scrappy this week and remove the driveshaft extension from a MK3 Mondy as my 2.0 Focus Zetec one is (not surprisingly) nowhere near the correct fit on the back of the Duratec block
Bye for now
All required shims have been made + fitted and the diff turns exactly as it should now, as does the rest of the gearset.
This morning I fitted the new speedo sensor trigger ring, firstly the diff bearings had to be removed from the diff.
Then the ring was fitted onto the diff, followed by the bearing - this was then pressed home by the hydraulic press.
Lucky I changed diffs actually because the later MK3 Mondeos didn't have a Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) in the gearbox so there was no trigger ring either - I'd have never known that, had I not stripped the 'box down!
Here's where we're up to today - Engine & 'box joined together, starter motor also fitted.
I need to visit the scrappy this week and remove the driveshaft extension from a MK3 Mondy as my 2.0 Focus Zetec one is (not surprisingly) nowhere near the correct fit on the back of the Duratec block
Bye for now
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Re: MK3 2.3 Duratec-Turbo. 'Box fitted to engine 13/12/08
looking good mate
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whats next then???
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Re: MK3 2.3 Duratec-Turbo. 'Box fitted to engine 13/12/08
jonboisxr2i :whats next then???
Hopefully there'll still be some people in work on Monday so I can get a hand lifting the whole powertrain onto the trolley that you can see in the pic, then it's portable enough for me to get it to the other end of the workshop where the crane and lifts are (about 100 metres' walk).
Still got to de-grease and steam-clean the engine bay (on Monday), then grind of the remains of the battery tray and the original Fiesta engine mounting point (just as I did with the Manj) - Then the 'bay is ready for dummy-fitting to commence
Got to get to the scrappy and get that driveshaft centre bearing and extension from the MK3 Mondy.
Get the driveshaft that needs shortening into Cober Precision Engineering (£££ )
Got to get in touch with Earls hoses and order some hose and fittings for the turbo oil & water lines (I'm not waiting to fit them once the engine is in the car! )
Somehow raise some cash to buy the Omex 710, Omex loom, 3 Bar MAP sensor, Injectors, Fuel Pump, Fuel pressure regulator to list just a few expenses still in the way of completion!
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lol u looking at another 2 k ish then lol thats not gonna be fun
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Re: MK3 2.3 Duratec-Turbo. 'Box fitted to engine 13/12/08
HCS PIMP :lol u looking at another 2 k ish then lol thats not gonna be fun
Lol indeed - I've saved probably twice that amount by doing all the work myself so it's no big deal The end result will be more than worth it
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Re: MK3 2.3 Duratec-Turbo. 'Box fitted to engine 13/12/08
i have to admit, i'm not the easiest person to impress, but i bow to you. good work mate, keep it up!
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Re: MK3 2.3 Duratec-Turbo. 'Box fitted to engine 13/12/08
deffo only shame is ur one pot down from an st lump admitedly ur will be an absolute animal im looking forward to hearing the waste gate churup and the turbo spool up to 1 bar post and the tyres howl and then the monsterous exhaust not as it fly through the gears and the atb struggles with all the horses i speculate 370 bhp same as the alfa gt lol will be amasing
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HCS PIMP :deffo only shame is [ERRR] one pot down from an st lump admitedly [ERRR] will be an absolute animal im looking forward to hearing the waste gate churup and the turbo spool up to 1 bar post and the tyres howl and then the monsterous exhaust not as it fly through the gears and the atb struggles with all the horses i speculate 370 bhp same as the alfa gt lol will be amasing
random and grammatically incorrect as well as numerous spelling errors
either you are under the affluence of incohol, or just plain weird
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Re: MK3 2.3 Duratec-Turbo. 'Box fitted to engine 13/12/08
Ha those last two comments made me laugh
HCS Pimp: Yes my Duratec has 4 pots as opposed to the 5 found on the Volvo 2.5 in the ST, that's why it makes so much sense - it's a physically smaller engine (roughly the same as a zetec) but has almost as much capacity as the ST 2.5. For the amount I've spent so far I could have easily picked up an ST 2.5 Turbo lump & transmission but it would have been a Bic™ to fit into a MK3 'Bay (I'm sure someone will so it soon though - probably me! )
The turbo I'm using (Garrett GT28R) is "only" capable of 330BHP maxxed-out so a rough estimate of 290-310BHP is much more likely TBH, which I'm sure will be enough to make my little Fez quite sprightly!
HCS Pimp: Yes my Duratec has 4 pots as opposed to the 5 found on the Volvo 2.5 in the ST, that's why it makes so much sense - it's a physically smaller engine (roughly the same as a zetec) but has almost as much capacity as the ST 2.5. For the amount I've spent so far I could have easily picked up an ST 2.5 Turbo lump & transmission but it would have been a Bic™ to fit into a MK3 'Bay (I'm sure someone will so it soon though - probably me! )
The turbo I'm using (Garrett GT28R) is "only" capable of 330BHP maxxed-out so a rough estimate of 290-310BHP is much more likely TBH, which I'm sure will be enough to make my little Fez quite sprightly!
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Re: MK3 2.3 Duratec-Turbo. 'Box fitted to engine 13/12/08
"horsepower sells engines, torque wins races "
and thats where your extra capacity and light weight will win
i thuink your next project should be mid engined, i could help with it. Ive got a few ideas
and thats where your extra capacity and light weight will win
i thuink your next project should be mid engined, i could help with it. Ive got a few ideas
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Re: MK3 2.3 Duratec-Turbo. 'Box fitted to engine 13/12/08
Ruishy1 :"horsepower sells engines, torque wins races "
and thats where your extra capacity and light weight will win
i thuink your next project should be mid engined, i could help with it. Ive got a few ideas
Very true mate - I've had plenty of highly-strung n/a engines in my time (including a £5k connaught 220bhp zetec) and whilst they're fun at full chat, they're very difficult to live with in normal driving conditions (i.e heavy traffic! ). I'm hoping for a big (300lb/ft+ ) shove in the back from relatively low revs, whatever the gear but it'll still hopefully rev quite high too, what with the Duratec having such great breathing as standard
I don't think I'd go as far as mid-engined but I'd definitely consider building a RWD MK3 Escort with a Duratec-Turbo mounted to a Mazda 6-speed box (Increasingly being used in old skool fords - see this month's Classic Ford).
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Re: MK3 2.3 Duratec-Turbo. 'Box fitted to engine 13/12/08
if i had the sapce and time thats what im going for, using the full back end from an MR2 turbo, make a jig up to position the whole assembly and weld in lots of panels and roll cage. jobs a gud'un
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Re: MK3 2.3 Duratec-Turbo. 'Box fitted to engine 13/12/08
So Jimmy if I want an mtx-75 fitting to my mk6 fiesta (duratec turbo)
I'm best off buying a mondeo mk3 mtx-75 gearbox, will I still be able use what speed sensor I currently have?
Mine ATM on the ib5 is on the box, i'm sure you know what I mean mate
i'm after an mtx-75 so this would be ideal for me if it is as I can get mondeo gearbox's quite cheap - it's just the quaife diff that costs
I'm best off buying a mondeo mk3 mtx-75 gearbox, will I still be able use what speed sensor I currently have?
Mine ATM on the ib5 is on the box, i'm sure you know what I mean mate
i'm after an mtx-75 so this would be ideal for me if it is as I can get mondeo gearbox's quite cheap - it's just the quaife diff that costs
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Re: MK3 2.3 Duratec-Turbo. 'Box fitted to engine 13/12/08
Hi everyone, been a busy boy the last couple of days!
Firstly the engine has been dummy-fitted and the mounting points are all tack-welded in place
Took a trip to the scrappy and found a nice, straight set of bonnet hinges to replace my horrid, bent ones - they were on a Moondust Silver K-Plate MK3 of all things too
Removed the Duratec MTX driveshaft bearing from the block of a MK3 Mondy, unfortunately the bearing size was much smaller than that of the Focus MK1 2.0 Zetec so the MIG had to step in! Here's my hybrid bearing (Focus Bearing housing with Mondeo block mounting plate).
Removed my grotty old battery tray (Still got black bogeys from all the grinding!)
Removed the MK3 Fiesta Engine mounting point (Needed for access to Duratec Alternator) - Ditto about the bogeys!
Do you reckon it fits?! (Two bloody hopes! )
As above, I had to remove sh*tloads of ancilliary parts before the lump would finally get in the hole. I really want to use the inlet but it will need to be made smaller with some creativie TIG action - If it's a crap casting and doesn't take weld I'll have to start from scratch with a new inlet
We're in!
After a whole day of f*cking about, swearing, gashing my hands and getting molten steel in my hair I finally got the whole lot lined up correctly and tack-welded the transmission and engine mounting points in
That's all until next week when I'll be squaring the engine bay away - I'll be fabricating fresh metal around the mounting points (and jumping on them to "load test" them!), I had to chop a bit of metal out fo the inner-wing to clear the chunky MTX75 so I'll be adding some strength back in somewhere it won't foul the gearbox.
After that I'll be cleaning it all down, seam-sealing then priming the 'bay then hopefully getting it all sprayed Moondust Silver.
Bye for now
Firstly the engine has been dummy-fitted and the mounting points are all tack-welded in place
Took a trip to the scrappy and found a nice, straight set of bonnet hinges to replace my horrid, bent ones - they were on a Moondust Silver K-Plate MK3 of all things too
Removed the Duratec MTX driveshaft bearing from the block of a MK3 Mondy, unfortunately the bearing size was much smaller than that of the Focus MK1 2.0 Zetec so the MIG had to step in! Here's my hybrid bearing (Focus Bearing housing with Mondeo block mounting plate).
Removed my grotty old battery tray (Still got black bogeys from all the grinding!)
Removed the MK3 Fiesta Engine mounting point (Needed for access to Duratec Alternator) - Ditto about the bogeys!
Do you reckon it fits?! (Two bloody hopes! )
As above, I had to remove sh*tloads of ancilliary parts before the lump would finally get in the hole. I really want to use the inlet but it will need to be made smaller with some creativie TIG action - If it's a crap casting and doesn't take weld I'll have to start from scratch with a new inlet
We're in!
After a whole day of f*cking about, swearing, gashing my hands and getting molten steel in my hair I finally got the whole lot lined up correctly and tack-welded the transmission and engine mounting points in
That's all until next week when I'll be squaring the engine bay away - I'll be fabricating fresh metal around the mounting points (and jumping on them to "load test" them!), I had to chop a bit of metal out fo the inner-wing to clear the chunky MTX75 so I'll be adding some strength back in somewhere it won't foul the gearbox.
After that I'll be cleaning it all down, seam-sealing then priming the 'bay then hopefully getting it all sprayed Moondust Silver.
Bye for now
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Re: MK3 2.3 Duratec-Turbo. BIG UPDATE! 19 Dec 08
git you got yours in well before mine!
least i can now pick your brains and see bout few things...
good to see others apart from me thinking that the mtx is the way to go shame i gave up 4 years ago when i first thought about it after seeing the complete lack of space for one
least i can now pick your brains and see bout few things...
good to see others apart from me thinking that the mtx is the way to go shame i gave up 4 years ago when i first thought about it after seeing the complete lack of space for one
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Re: MK3 2.3 Duratec-Turbo. BIG UPDATE! 19 Dec 08
great work mate and coming on nice, these are the important bits so cant be rushed
you gunna fix that little bit on the scuttle?
you gunna fix that little bit on the scuttle?
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Re: MK3 2.3 Duratec-Turbo. BIG UPDATE! 19 Dec 08
jayrs :you gunna fix that little bit on the scuttle?
Hi Jay are you refering to the small cut-out part in the lower front panel? Yeah I originally cut that piece out to clear the Duratec oIl filter housing but I'll be welding a small curved piece of steel in there next week to neaten it up
That's the problem with fitting something that was never supposed to be there - there's bits sticking out where there wouldn't normally be!
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looking very good mate
you are getting this done quick
you are getting this done quick
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, it will all be right in the end im sure mate
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jayrs ::lol: , it will all be right in the end im sure mate
Damn right it will mate - The amount of time & cash I've put into this, there's no way I wont finish it!
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Re: MK3 2.3 Duratec-Turbo. BIG UPDATE! 19 Dec 08
awesome work mate, Im bored this winter I want to start something new too
That does look crammed in there, looking forward to seeing you progress though.
That does look crammed in there, looking forward to seeing you progress though.
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Looking good! Hope you can get the inlet on without too much trouble!
I've got something you can start if you want
luca :awesome work mate, Im bored this winter I want to start something new too
I've got something you can start if you want
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luca : Im bored this winter I want to start something new too
Crikey, some people are never satisfied!
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Re: MK3 2.3 Duratec-Turbo. BIG UPDATE! 19 Dec 08
Another update everyone
Today I welded the mounting points in properly and sorted the clearance for the MTX 75/inner wing/chassis rail.
For the gearbox mounting I started by mocking the required piece in card first.
Then started making a duplicate in mild steel...
All welded in
Same detail for the engine mounting point, card first...
All done.
Here you can see the area that has been created to clear the gearbox - once the gap was opened up, I used some 4mm thick mild steel to restore the strength to the chassis rail and inner wing - should look a lot nicer once the seam sealer has been applied and it's all painted.
Here's the small area that had to be removed to provide a bit more clearance around the Duratec Oil Filter housing - to be honest I was a bit "previous" by hacking it out in the first place - once I had everything lined up properly there was a bit more space than I first thought, ah well better safe than sorry! Still got to sort the top out - ran out of time today.
Next update should hopefully have the engine bay stripped, cleaned, rubbed down and primed,
Bye for now and have a great Christmas
Today I welded the mounting points in properly and sorted the clearance for the MTX 75/inner wing/chassis rail.
For the gearbox mounting I started by mocking the required piece in card first.
Then started making a duplicate in mild steel...
All welded in
Same detail for the engine mounting point, card first...
All done.
Here you can see the area that has been created to clear the gearbox - once the gap was opened up, I used some 4mm thick mild steel to restore the strength to the chassis rail and inner wing - should look a lot nicer once the seam sealer has been applied and it's all painted.
Here's the small area that had to be removed to provide a bit more clearance around the Duratec Oil Filter housing - to be honest I was a bit "previous" by hacking it out in the first place - once I had everything lined up properly there was a bit more space than I first thought, ah well better safe than sorry! Still got to sort the top out - ran out of time today.
Next update should hopefully have the engine bay stripped, cleaned, rubbed down and primed,
Bye for now and have a great Christmas
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Re: MK3 2.3 Duratec-Turbo. New Update 22nd Dec 08
more good work there mate.
as for the front, better to have too much space than not engine, the fez engine bay can be a bit restriced even on the FRST let alone that monster your putting in!
as for the front, better to have too much space than not engine, the fez engine bay can be a bit restriced even on the FRST let alone that monster your putting in!
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Re: MK3 2.3 Duratec-Turbo. New Update 22nd Dec 08
Looks awsome mate It doent look like there has been that much chopped out to fit the mtx box?
Keep the updates comming
Keep the updates comming
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cosmagedon :Looks awsome mate It doent look like there has been that much chopped out to fit the mtx box?
Keep the updates comming
Cheers mate, yeah there's not a great deal that needs removing, the photo doesn't really give a good perspective of the depth that I've taken out unfortunately - it's probably about 15-20mm or so including "room for error" as I don't want any nasty vibrations when giving it some serious hammer!
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gonna be good to see it finished and have a good ole chrimbo
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been watching this from the begining and it looks awsome mate krrp up the good work and have a good `un
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