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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. New short motor. Forged rods &pistons
Nice find with the new bottom end
Top work so far, I know how you feel about the £2.5k equipment bill - it's a nightmare when you have plans on what you want to buy for the car then something crops up and takes your cash away
Top work so far, I know how you feel about the £2.5k equipment bill - it's a nightmare when you have plans on what you want to buy for the car then something crops up and takes your cash away
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. New short motor. Forged rods &pistons
Tell me about it Jim, I wasn't expecting it untill January and I get my pay rise in October so thought I could cover it by then.
Updates. A nice empty bay ready to be worked on.
Firstly the good bits. Both inner wings MINT
Origional battery tray has a little scab in the middle underneith but seems solid
Average bits. The fuse box are needs a small patch re doing that I had to bodge weld at 10PM the Firday before FOrd Fair for the MOT
And the bad bits. Both front bumper mounts need a little work
Also plan on removing all the un needed s**t form the old wiring loom as its never going back to MFI so why bother keeping it.
Cosworth loom is in a right s**t state as well. Probably why I was having so much trouble with misfires, fuel surge etc.
The high amp wire from the ECU to the fuel pump was made up of 4 completely different grades of wire all wrapped together unsoldered and insulation taped up! One section, as shown was only 8CM LONG!
This black wire from the replay was worrying. One end was straight, one end was twirled loosley around the straight bit then MASKING TAPED together before being taped up at a later date again.
These wires weren't insulated just left like this taped into the main loom
ECU end. This wire has a small joining peice soldered on then scotched blocked back together?
Etc etc, So I'm going to completely re solder/wire it back and get some proper loom braid, then hide it all away, a-la Platt style.
The other thing I'm going to do, straight out of the Dave Platt school of modifying is smooth the engine bay. Welding up all the holes on the wings and little recesses just to tidy it up abit.
I'll update you with progress.
Updates. A nice empty bay ready to be worked on.
Firstly the good bits. Both inner wings MINT
Origional battery tray has a little scab in the middle underneith but seems solid
Average bits. The fuse box are needs a small patch re doing that I had to bodge weld at 10PM the Firday before FOrd Fair for the MOT
And the bad bits. Both front bumper mounts need a little work
Also plan on removing all the un needed s**t form the old wiring loom as its never going back to MFI so why bother keeping it.
Cosworth loom is in a right s**t state as well. Probably why I was having so much trouble with misfires, fuel surge etc.
The high amp wire from the ECU to the fuel pump was made up of 4 completely different grades of wire all wrapped together unsoldered and insulation taped up! One section, as shown was only 8CM LONG!
This black wire from the replay was worrying. One end was straight, one end was twirled loosley around the straight bit then MASKING TAPED together before being taped up at a later date again.
These wires weren't insulated just left like this taped into the main loom
ECU end. This wire has a small joining peice soldered on then scotched blocked back together?
Etc etc, So I'm going to completely re solder/wire it back and get some proper loom braid, then hide it all away, a-la Platt style.
The other thing I'm going to do, straight out of the Dave Platt school of modifying is smooth the engine bay. Welding up all the holes on the wings and little recesses just to tidy it up abit.
I'll update you with progress.
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. New short motor. Forged rods &pistons
HCS PIMP :are thoses shoes standard equipment when you work on the engine hahaha
Don't you wear Paul Smith shoes when working on your car?
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. Empty bay and a fooked loom!
hhahah na i wear either dc or kanckered old boots hahahaha do they make paul smiths in size 15
i got big feet from the wellys my mum filled with manure hahahaha
i got big feet from the wellys my mum filled with manure hahahaha
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. Empty bay and a fooked loom!
Size 15 feet and you drive a MINI! Whats wrong with you?
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. Empty bay and a fooked loom!
hahahah i an animal lol
the saxo was much much worse due to the pedals being sooo close together
the saxo was much much worse due to the pedals being sooo close together
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. Made a good start on the looms.
Just got home from the barn sorting my loom out.
Jano told me to get a non injection loom and sell my MFI loom on. But on further inspection it had more cuts than someone at a Slipknot consert so wasn't really worth much. Thanks very much for the help with it though.
Started with this...
and now got this...
It's not going back in the origional place though. I'm going to see if I can mount it under the dash some where. SO I need to get it back in the car and see where everything needs to go before braiding it.
Next was he abismal cossie loom...
Removed everything that wasn't needed and ended up with this...
Same again really, all the wiring will be hidden, so need to get it back in the bay and mark where everything needs to go and how long it needs to be.
This is what was removed. Should make hiding the looms a little easier.
Jano told me to get a non injection loom and sell my MFI loom on. But on further inspection it had more cuts than someone at a Slipknot consert so wasn't really worth much. Thanks very much for the help with it though.
Started with this...
and now got this...
It's not going back in the origional place though. I'm going to see if I can mount it under the dash some where. SO I need to get it back in the car and see where everything needs to go before braiding it.
Next was he abismal cossie loom...
Removed everything that wasn't needed and ended up with this...
Same again really, all the wiring will be hidden, so need to get it back in the bay and mark where everything needs to go and how long it needs to be.
This is what was removed. Should make hiding the looms a little easier.
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. Made a good start on the looms.
I don't think there is such thing as a MINT battery tray. :evil:
Mine was 100% solid, I poked it through the holes, didn't go through, no loose paint apart from a tiny 5p blister in one place....
So the plan was to drill the spot welds out and keep the original bulkhead pannel...
Oh dear.
It was rusty under the spot welds and behine the bulkhead behind the dash on the inside of the car. Very odd.
I cut out slightly more than was needed just to make sure it wont come back.
Cleaned off the surface rust on the inside and galvenised it.
Made my own repair panel and tacked that on.
Welded
Ground flush
And put the first layer of fibrerfiller on top ready to start smoothing. Not bad for someone who doesn't weld and sells disigner clothes for a living
The underside of the repair panel I then seam sealed and coated with can-galv. It's never gunna rust again.
The battery tray is going here as Its spotless.
Then I started work on the inner wings.
Mine was 100% solid, I poked it through the holes, didn't go through, no loose paint apart from a tiny 5p blister in one place....
So the plan was to drill the spot welds out and keep the original bulkhead pannel...
Oh dear.
It was rusty under the spot welds and behine the bulkhead behind the dash on the inside of the car. Very odd.
I cut out slightly more than was needed just to make sure it wont come back.
Cleaned off the surface rust on the inside and galvenised it.
Made my own repair panel and tacked that on.
Welded
Ground flush
And put the first layer of fibrerfiller on top ready to start smoothing. Not bad for someone who doesn't weld and sells disigner clothes for a living
The underside of the repair panel I then seam sealed and coated with can-galv. It's never gunna rust again.
The battery tray is going here as Its spotless.
Then I started work on the inner wings.
Last edited by muz on Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo.Started smothing the bay.Bat tray out
looking good moved my battery to the back too as my tray was also rusty not as bad as that though
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo.Started smothing the bay.Bat tray out
nice work dude
good on you for having ago yourself, repect due
the wiring looks like good fun
keep up the good work
good on you for having ago yourself, repect due
the wiring looks like good fun
keep up the good work
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo.Started smothing the bay.Bat tray out
jonboisescort :looking good moved my battery to the back too as my tray was also rusty not as bad as that though
I'd take a look behined the dash at the bulkhead Jon on yours. Sad to say but if theres rust on top I will bet its 10 times worse underneith. All you could see when I took the tray off, before I got the hammer and screwdriver to it, was a 5p sized blister! I should have taken a picture. There was also rust UNDER the seam sealer that was 100% hidden The reason I cut such a large area out was to make sure it wasn't hiding anywhere else.
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo.Started smothing the bay.Bat tray out
i know what you mean mate my tray looked fine from above but when i noticed water coming in i was like ummmmm
so looked behind the dash and saw rust along the edge
so looked behind the dash and saw rust along the edge
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. 27-9. Seam welded engine bay
Woah, thats some work your putting in mate. Welding looks very good too
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coming on well mate
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. 27-9. Seam welded engine bay
You'll be able to go rallying now with all that seam welding
Good work fella, must of taken you ages doing it all though
Good work fella, must of taken you ages doing it all though
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. 27-9. Seam welded engine bay
Took 5 Hours in total Shaun. Revmoving the old seam sealer in the panel joins so the welds were clean was the biggest headache.
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. 27-9. Seam welded engine bay
Looking really good there mate, nice work!
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. 27-9. Seam welded engine bay
Well started the day by trying to buy a couple of old Fords. There's a chap down the road with a MK3 XR3, MK4 XR3i and a Mk2 Escort under a cover. Neither have moved for many many years so I knocked his door, after he caught me taking a picture and looked very angy and asked if he wanted to sell. But basically told me to go away.
Then, feeling abit gutted, went upto the barn to crack on.
Smoothing is getting there.
Then the farmer came round and asked if I wanted a steel locker for free. Bargin!
So filled it up with all the expencive bits.
And tidied my work area. Also got myself an engine stand.
Then, feeling abit gutted, went upto the barn to crack on.
Smoothing is getting there.
Then the farmer came round and asked if I wanted a steel locker for free. Bargin!
So filled it up with all the expencive bits.
And tidied my work area. Also got myself an engine stand.
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. 21-10. Smoothing started.
lookiing very nice mate
that bay will be great when done
that bay will be great when done
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. 21-10. Smoothing started.
I forgot how long it takes to sand filler down! I'm trying to smooth the seam wels in too so they dont look like welds, just raised areas on the seam.
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. 21-10. Smoothing started.
that guy is well moody mate i know i bloke who spoke to him before about selling them he's a prize fanny! however you do know theres a mk1 escort there dont you that he'll not sell .. what a waste
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. 21-10. Smoothing started.
Is it a mk1 not a mk2 under the cover!?! That's even worse
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I was on my way to a meeting for work as well so I was dressed very smart,pulled up in the Subaru, was polite to him. I said sorry to bother you, you can tell me to sod if you like, but I drive past everyday and see these cars and want a new project and I'm interested in buying a couple to restore. He said what money we talking? I said depends entirey on condition etc but I know what they are worth, you know what they are worth so I'm not trying to con you, but I'm interested in the MK3 XR3 and if thats a MK2 Escort under the cover, which I think it is, I want that as well. And without even saying about price etc he said I think you should go and we'll leave it shall we and closed the door?
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. 21-10. Smoothing started.
some people just wont let things go, i put a note through a door to a house with a E reg xr2 on the drive, boot lid on it has got more rust than the whole on my C reg xr2, yet i never got a call about it, and i did state i would buy it from them if the price was fair, so some people just hold onto things for no reason.
that said mate, i was offered a mk3 escort about a month back, bro inlaw said it was a mk3 escort xr3i, failed mot on a few bits, mine for jack if i wanted it 9not bro inlaws car though) i never got back to him as i wasnt really interested.... is this the part you tell me i should of got it
if your interested and willing to travel i can find out if its still about..? bear in mind im on the isle of wight mate
that said mate, i was offered a mk3 escort about a month back, bro inlaw said it was a mk3 escort xr3i, failed mot on a few bits, mine for jack if i wanted it 9not bro inlaws car though) i never got back to him as i wasnt really interested.... is this the part you tell me i should of got it
if your interested and willing to travel i can find out if its still about..? bear in mind im on the isle of wight mate
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. 21-10. Smoothing started.
If IT's avaiable Jay And not a total rotter I would be. I really fancy one as a run around.
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. 21-10. Smoothing started.
this project has moved on a bit since i last had a read through, car is looking stunning mate and the whole tread is pawn
good job mr menswear salesman
good job mr menswear salesman
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. 21-10. Smoothing started.
Doing really well with that engine bay mate, will look awesome when done!
And as said, some people just hold onto things, I left my number on the windscreen of a mk1 fez down the road a few weeks back saying I was interested in buying, not heard anything since.
And as said, some people just hold onto things, I left my number on the windscreen of a mk1 fez down the road a few weeks back saying I was interested in buying, not heard anything since.
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. 21-10. Smoothing started.
jonyb4 :this project has moved on a bit since i last had a read through, car is looking stunning mate and the whole tread is pawn
good job mr menswear salesman
Cheers mate. It's great that I've got the bug back. I'm actually enjoying working on the car again, and watching it come together, thinking "I'm really happy how thats turned out, rather than going up the barn with a list of jobs to do and rushing them to get it on the road then thinking, well it's not pretty but it will do.
Just little things really like mounting the coil where there was already a hole drilled so it wasn't where I would have wanted it etc
Dave G fsi :Doing really well with that engine bay mate, will look awesome when done!
And as said, some people just hold onto things, I left my number on the windscreen of a mk1 fez down the road a few weeks back saying I was interested in buying, not heard anything since.
I'm not overly bothered, as I know they aren't going anywhere. When this cars doen I can just save a grand and wave it in his face, he might let them go then. At least they aren't parked on grass
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. 21-10. Smoothing started.
lol grass - water, spiders, moss - no good
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. 21-10. Smoothing started.
@ jonyb4
engine bay looks fantastic dude, going to be well worth it when its done
this has got to be fav Escort RST
keep up the good work
engine bay looks fantastic dude, going to be well worth it when its done
this has got to be fav Escort RST
keep up the good work
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. 21-10. Smoothing started.
1800 Zetec 133bhp 140lbs/ft
mk2 pop 1.4i
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. 21-10. Smoothing started.
Alright chief, what brand of filler are you using?
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Re: Muz's Escort RS Turbo. 21-10. Smoothing started.
I always use U-Pol products Mark, filler, high build, etch primer etc. The filler is U Pol easy sand. It's always worked for me. I even thin the filler down with thinners and it works well as a stopper.
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muz :I always use U-Pol products Mark, filler, high build, etch primer etc. The filler is U Pol easy sand. It's always worked for me. I even thin the filler down with thinners and it works well as a stopper.
Thanks mate.
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