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Sadly no DBW; that would be really nice! The EECIV and EECV Zetec's used a second cable from the TB, linked to a Servo module.

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I discovered that the ECU in the Zetec-S is some kind of half way house/cut down EECV. It still uses the old EECIV 60 pin connector, rather than the new 104 pin EECV connector. Focus Mk1 & 2 2.0 Zetec are the same.

Mk1 Focus RS uses the full EEV 104 pin type ECU. Focus RS Engine was my plan, so I'll need to have a think about the Zetec-S loom some more.

[Smo]

I thought this was just meant to be relatively simple project/resto?

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I thought this was just meant to be relatively simple project/resto?

So did I

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I have done some analysis of the the Mk1 Mondeo and Phase 2 Zetec-S Wiring Diagrams:

I'm a bit gutted that the Zetec-S only runs the 60- Pin EECV ECU because I wanted to perform the majority of wiring prep work now to support a Focus RS Engine on EECV (aftermarket management just doesn't compare IMO). At least the ZS does run the SCP bus, which will enable me to fit some more interesting instruments at some point, and get some data logging on the go.

Looks like I need to find a 104 Pin FRS Engine bay loom for when I do get the FRS Engine. I missed a brand new one a few days ago for £44 not realising at the time that the ZS only had 60 pins. Doh!

For now, the main priority is to use the ZS loom to run the Series 1 2.0 from EECIV, which can be done quite easily. The ZS engine bay loom just unplugs from the engine bay fuse box anyway, so it's not a major project to take it out and modify it later on.

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Recaro retirm progress - thanks to my girlfriend's Mum!

I helped by stripping the old covers into their component parts:



Then cut new pieces using the FRST fabric as templates:


Here's a thigh bolster, now in Si fabric:


More tomorrow, if I survive a 12hr warehouse party tonight

[jayrs]

nice work mate, will look good when done
what ya doing with the old FRST material when ya done out of intrest?

[jonyb4]

awsome!
always wanted to see someone make the Si recaros at home

[Max M4X WW]

Mark, Did you think about using those escort Recaro's as in the 'rs1800 seat fabric' thread? Or are they hard to get hold of?

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Jay - Thanks mate I will wash all the standard fabric panels and avertise them as a spares kit.

Jon - Me too

Max - No, Mk5/6 Escort Recaro's are far inferior to the FRST seats, which are I think the best Recaro's Ford have used up to the Mk2 Focus RS. The other models lack the amount of side bolstering of the FRST seats, and later Recaro's like the Focus ST have a one piece back and even less side bolstering. The FRST seats are absolutely superb.

[jonyb4]

im not too keen on the mk5/6 escort RS2000 / puma millenium recaros either, liek you said less bolstering and them weird rigid lines at the small of the back is ugly

what about the Escort cosworth hexagon ones?

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im not too keen on the mk5/6 escort RS2000 / puma millenium recaros either, liek you said less bolstering and them weird rigid lines at the small of the back is ugly

what about the Escort cosworth hexagon ones?

They are nice, but also not as good as the FRST seats.

[jayrs]

Jay - Thanks mate I will wash all the standard fabric panels and avertise them as a spares kit.

i'l keep my eyes open for that then, might be intrested

[Max M4X WW]

Fair enough, I was thinking of the look really.

Must say, mine are comfy but I've not given them much use yet

I sat in some Recaros yesterday on an ACS BMW stand, they were as FRST seats but in black cloth, with electrical adjustment (inc lumbar) heating and ventilation!

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Fair enough, I was thinking of the look really.

Must say, mine are comfy but I've not given them much use yet

I sat in some Recaros yesterday on an ACS BMW stand, they were as FRST seats but in black cloth, with electrical adjustment (inc lumbar) heating and ventilation!

Most likely the old Orthopedic model

Again, not a patch on the FRST seats

[Max M4X WW]

Nope didn't have the 'bars'

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Nope didn't have the 'bars'

That photo is how they arrive from Recaro. ACS would trim the seats to their desired finish.

I'm surprised they used a design that was so old, the CS is so much better!

[Max M4X WW]

Ok well the backrest had the 'frame' around the edge like FRST seats also.

[jonyb4]

hey mark, do you mind if i ask you a quick question?

your a bank of ford info

the 2.0 zetec Ecu 'Owls', from a P-reg 2.0 GLX mondeo, does ti have internal pats? would it work on my Si?

Oh and is there a technique to aligning headlights on the mk3? im lost in how to do it
atm ive jsut matched hwo it sits with the bonnet closed compared tot he drivers side which remained untouched

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Ok well the backrest had the 'frame' around the edge like FRST seats also.

Hmm - got any pics?

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hey mark, do you mind if i ask you a quick question?

your a bank of ford info

the 2.0 zetec Ecu 'Owls', from a P-reg 2.0 GLX mondeo, does ti have internal pats? would it work on my Si?

Oh and is there a technique to aligning headlights on the mk3? im lost in how to do it
atm ive jsut matched hwo it sits with the bonnet closed compared tot he drivers side which remained untouched

I'm pretty sure OWLS is EECV, mate, which makes it useless for the Si conversion.

Do you have it in your posession? I'm actually looking for an OWLS ECU but as it is internal PATS, I'd also need the matching key chip.

[Max M4X WW]

May have been this but swear it didn't have the 'bars'

[jonyb4]

hey mark, do you mind if i ask you a quick question?

your a bank of ford info

the 2.0 zetec Ecu 'Owls', from a P-reg 2.0 GLX mondeo, does ti have internal pats? would it work on my Si?

Oh and is there a technique to aligning headlights on the mk3? im lost in how to do it
atm ive jsut matched hwo it sits with the bonnet closed compared tot he drivers side which remained untouched

I'm pretty sure OWLS is EECV, mate, which makes it useless for the Si conversion.

Do you have it in your posession? I'm actually looking for an OWLS ECU but as it is internal PATS, I'd also need the matching key chip.

lol i feel stupid asking that headlight question, answers obvious, do it at n ight agaisnt a wall

umm no i dont have that Owls one mate its in a scrap yard still in the mondeo, he wanted £20 for it, i could check again for the key, some of them had keys in still

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lol i feel stupid asking that headlight question, answers obvious, do it at n ight agaisnt a wall

umm no i dont have that Owls one mate its in a scrap yard still in the mondeo, he wanted £20 for it, i could check again for the key, some of them had keys in still

Sorry, I missed the headlight part - I didn't just ignore it. you're right anyway, aim against a wall or garage door to start the process.

Left/Right:Both diagonal lines should overlap perfectly, and the lowest line should start to rise at a point just to the right of the cars centre.
Up/down: Hard to describe this - but the best way to check is to walk 6 car lengths from the car and see if there is any glare - adjust to cancel this out.

I will have a EECIV 2.0 ECU (I think it's DEEP) and MAF that I won't need, as I'm replacing with the EECV (OWLS for example) - this won't be for a couple of months, though.

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It looks good to run the Series 1 from Series 2 EECV management. The Focus used the 60 pin ECU and the pin outs for this are near identical to the Zetec-S, which is great.
The only pins that aren't are knock sensor (Zetec-E 2.0 didn't run one, so this can be ignored) and instrument cluster feeds: the Fiesta Mk5/Puma instrument cluster uses wires for each warning light and dial, where the Focus uses the SCP bus to drive everything, so I need to test a Focus ECU to see if it's still programmed to output the individual RPM and ECT feeds (speed comes directly from the VSS).

Mk1/2 Focus manual's all ran 60 pin EECV. The only exceptions are ST170, RS and Automatics.
All Mk2 Mondeo's ran the 104 pin ECU, so this will be a cheap way to get a Focus RS compatible loom.

[jonyb4]

lol i feel stupid asking that headlight question, answers obvious, do it at n ight agaisnt a wall

umm no i dont have that Owls one mate its in a scrap yard still in the mondeo, he wanted £20 for it, i could check again for the key, some of them had keys in still

Sorry, I missed the headlight part - I didn't just ignore it. you're right anyway, aim against a wall or garage door to start the process.

Left/Right:Both diagonal lines should overlap perfectly, and the lowest line should start to rise at a point just to the right of the cars centre.
Up/down: Hard to describe this - but the best way to check is to walk 6 car lengths from the car and see if there is any glare - adjust to cancel this out.

I will have a EECIV 2.0 ECU (I think it's DEEP) and MAF that I won't need, as I'm replacing with the EECV (OWLS for example) - this won't be for a couple of months, though.

ah right, dont worry about the ecu then mate, im trying to win one on ebay, which im determind i will get

as for the headlights ill have a go at the left/right adjustment later when its dark

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N/S rear quarter and front wing fitted today. I also cut out the Si bulkhead and fitted the Puma version I bought recently.

Started on filler work, looking to get the base coat on (finally) this Saturday.

[Max M4X WW]

I thought the dash thing was for the other car No more Mk3 dash?

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I thought the dash thing was for the other car No more Mk3 dash?

The Quattro project will have a Golf Mk5 Dash, the Si will have the Puma dash.

[Max M4X WW]

Shame, I like the Mk3 dash lol

[jonyb4]

im with max on that one

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I also like the Mk3 Dash, I have a mint Mk3.5 Ghia with that dash in

It does look nice, but it's so weak, and when you fit stiffer suspension it's weakness is even more apparent. The movement/noises drive me mad. The Mk4 dash has a substantial cross member behind it which stiffens the scuttle. The shape also ties in with the curvy Si bumpers and side skirts, and it will let me fit the A/C controls easily.

[jonyb4]

the mk4/5/puma dash is lovely dont get me wrong, it still looks reasonably modern even today, but i dont think it suits a mk3

you fitting the black dash not the cream or mauve aint you?

only the black one is nice

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the mk4/5/puma dash is lovely dont get me wrong, it still looks reasonably modern even today, but i dont think it suits a mk3

you fitting the black dash not the cream or mauve aint you?

only the black one is nice

Yea the early Puma colour - 'Midnight Raven' to match the upper spec Mk3.5 Door cards etc. (There were two black's in the Mk3.5 - Raven and Midnight Raven, which is the really dark blue)

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60% of the Filler work is now finished (thanks to my Dad for lending a hand). I don't know how people work in a body shop each day, it's not a pleasant job