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New Cams, 1.6Si? Help pls!!!

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New Cams, 1.6Si? Help pls!!!

Postby jon-gxi on Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:41 am

Performance cams(1.6Si), i'm considering it as I've heard that its pretty much the best way for power gains aside from a turbo.....I'm getting a wedge in Jan so im gonna do it, but a few things first please.....

Whos done it...is it worth it?

How much and what else is involved....ie. what else needs chanfing...

and

where can anyone recomend?

Response Greatly appreciated...Jon
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Postby Nick 2i on Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:33 pm

aint much point to be honest

you wont get harldy any gain like 5 bhp as the 1.6 si engine is so restrictive.

do a search this has been asked so many times about tuning the 1.6 si.


best off saving your money for a 2.0 conversion 130 bhp :D
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Postby Traser on Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:56 pm

is it a load of rubbish when they say like "12bhp in a rev band" etc...?
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Postby Robz_Fester on Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:32 am

For the price of cams for an si as its DOHC you could do an engine conversion for an extra 100 quid :)
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Postby jon-gxi on Sat Dec 25, 2004 5:41 pm

cheers........ :rolleyes:
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Postby Codey on Mon Dec 27, 2004 4:05 pm

Fez_Steve :is it a load of rubbish when they say like "12bhp in a rev band" etc...?


Well no, it depends on the engine. Unfortunately the 1.6 Zetec-E engine is very restictive in comparison to others. It was designed with economy in mind. So it wont gain as much with fast road cams as other engines might.
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Postby Percy! on Mon Dec 27, 2004 4:30 pm

As above,

Cams about £700 to go from 90bhp to 95bhp

Or 2.0 conversion which cost the same to go from 90bhp to 130bhp

Or do what I did 2.0 conversion then cams :)

I do have some 130ps ford cams for sale if you want them but not sure if they will work in a 1.6 si as they are the RS1800 spec cams.

But they should give a improvement in power for not much money if they will work.

I am sure someone on here will know.
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Postby Robz_Fester on Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:25 am

jon-gxi :cheers........ :rolleyes:


Oh sorry I meant keep your sh!t restrictive 1.6 engine, do as much work and end up with an extra 5bhp. :lol:

Makes me laugh so much on here when ppl ask for advise and then when they don't hear people agreeing with their sh!t idea they get upety LMFAO!!
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Postby jon-gxi on Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:30 am

Robz_Fester :
jon-gxi :cheers........ :rolleyes:


Oh sorry I meant keep your sh!t restrictive 1.6 engine, do as much work and end up with an extra 5bhp. :lol:

Makes me laugh so much on here when ppl ask for advise and then when they don't hear people agreeing with their sh!t idea they get upety LMFAO!!


And it makes ME laugh when someone asks advice on a 'specific' item....and then Ford GURU's starting suggesting engine swaps like its a 10 minute job!!!!! great help that, It really takes a genius to tell me that putting a 2.0 in place would make my car go faster!
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Re: New Cams, 1.6Si? Help pls!!!

Postby Robz_Fester on Mon Jan 03, 2005 9:32 pm

jon-gxi :Performance cams(1.6Si), i'm considering it as I've heard that its pretty much the best way for power gains aside from a turbo.....I'm getting a wedge in Jan so im gonna do it, but a few things first please.....

Whos done it...is it worth it?

How much and what else is involved....ie. what else needs chanfing...

and

where can anyone recomend?

Response Greatly appreciated...Jon


Sorry I'll reply specifically:

Whos done it...is it worth it?
No-one, no.

How much and what else is involved....ie. what else needs chanfing...
Nothing else, isn't £500 for a 5bhp increase enough?

where can anyone recomend?
No where [ERRR] no ones wasted their time doing it :)


Hope they are more helpful, specific answers :lol:
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Postby jon-gxi on Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:15 am

your an idiot
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Postby Robz_Fester on Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:46 am

And YOU'RE sh!t at English
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Postby Percy! on Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:03 pm

Ok children calm down.

I can see the points you are both making and there is no point getting upset.

I would agree its silly to spend any real money on the 1.6si when the 2.0 can be done so cheaply and within a week if well prepared.

But with that as I said cams from bigger models may do something and can be got for alot less and there is things like exhaust and air filter which again can make some difference and make it sound nicer. also these could be used if he does upgrade to a 2.0 in the future.
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Postby Robz_Fester on Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:07 pm

lol

I was just expressing a point of view as I have been down the 1.6 route and after spending £300 on an exhaust, £100 on a decat pipe, £80 on an induction kit, £50 on a throttle body wish I waould have spent the same money on an engine swap!

As has been posted on here many times none of the aforementioned items or cams are the bottle neck, its the valve sizes so there is not that much point in changing them until u clear the bottleneck which is the valves! (i.e. new engine or a lot of money spent on the head!)
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Postby jon-gxi on Tue Jan 04, 2005 5:20 pm

we're all grown ups here, Thankyou for all feedback.
Ex - Si 16v owner.
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Postby Mav Singh on Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:07 pm

is it possible to put a 2.0 head on a 1.6 engine? seing as 2.0 heads go for like 40 quid here at local scrappy. the bottom ends seems to cost more oddly
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Postby Smo on Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:52 pm

Pretty sure it can't be done. I don't know about actually fitting one on, whether there is a problem there, i.e. bolting it to the block (I would have though that it would actually fit), but I'm sure the fact that the chamber being a larger diameter (2.0 obviously having a larger bore than a 1.6) can only be a bad thing over-lapping the 1.6 bore.

This is how I see it anyway, but I'd like to hear other peoples' opinions/experiences in response to that :)
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