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[CossieDan]

not sure if this is the right forum but i think it fits here better than the others

i currently have a 1.6 zetec with a full ashley exhaust system, i asked the guy before buying it if it would be loud and he assured me it woudnt be...but it bloody well is!

is there anything i can do about this? i do like to drive faster than the average guy on the road, which doesnt help, but when i get above 3000 or so (revs not mph ) all i can hear is my exhaust and its kinda annoying when im trying to hear my girlfriend telling me to slow down. ive soundproofed my boot with a few layers of eDead but it hasnt really made any difference

would soundproofing the floor and walls/doors make a big difference or if not are there any decent exhaust systems which arnt too loud?

cheers

[Oranoco]

Magnex systems are pretty quiet whilst retaining a nice note to them.

If you have a Zetec S I would recomend a full quality system from the likes of Magnex, Miltek, Scorpion or Mongoose.

If you have an Si I would stick a standard system on with just a good quality replacement back box.

[CossieDan]

i have neither its a 1.6 ghia
i guess the same would apply as the Si though?
all the full systems ive seen at my local autofactors are one piece, so id have to cut it to fit a new backbox?

[CossieDan]

also sorry for noob question but what effect would fitting just a new backbox have over a standard system or a full sports system?

[Oranoco]

The 1.6 Zetec as found in the Si and in your case Ghia just isn't tunable so there is no benefit to be had from fitting a full system. Hence why I suggested a standard system with aftermarket back box as it will save you a good few quid and there will be no noticable difference in performance.

Standard system should be about £80 through the trade then allow £130 for a good quality back box and bribe a mate who's handy with some spanners

[CossieDan]

it wont be a 1.6 forever, eventually it will be a 2.0 probably from a mondeo (ive read about how crap and untunable the 1.6 zetec is )
if there will be no performance gains whats the benefit of fitting an aftermarket backbox?

[edders]

the only gains to fitting a new backbox is just it looks nicer and you get a nicer engine note.

[CossieDan]

wont the engine sound the same and the noise come from the exhaust?
sorry im a bit of a fool when it comes to engines

[Oranoco]

The exhaust not e will sound nicer and it will look a lot nicer than the standard pea shooter in the bumper recess.

Once you get the 2.0 in there you need to get hold of Hayward & Scott and get them to do you a proper calculated and flow tested system. Won't be the cheapest bit of kit you can buy but it will certainly be the best

[CossieDan]

cant i keep the ashley system ive got now?
im not really looking squeeze every possible bit of power out of the engine i just want something better than my 1.6 which i know i'll be able to tune once/if i finish the bodywork and interior

i know i said i wanted something quieter but it sounds like it will be a lot cheaper and easier in the long run to put tons of soundproofing in so i cant hear it
i like how it sounds on the outside just dont like the constant drone on the inside

[Oranoco]

Not really as the Ashley will be designed to run on the 1.6 engine and not the 2.0 so at best you'll probably strangle the engine and cost yourself power.

[CossieDan]

how much power would i lose?

[Oranoco]

Can't say mate but there is a lot more to exhausts than just a few bits of pipe. Getting it wrong could cause you all sorts of problems

[CossieDan]

ok, just the 2.0 conversion guide dont say anything about replacing ewxhausts :

[FezV6]

whatever you do dont waste your money on loads of sound deadening. I tried to quit down a noisy powerflow system with it and failed miserably. I know someone in the trade and got a $hit load of Ivanhoe sound deadening (people in the trade use it as an equivelent of dynamat extreme). my car ended up with it everywhere - floor, sides, doors & roof! I used 16 rolls of it altogether and there fairly big rolls (1*0.6m i think).

In the end the exhaust was still just as noisy. Got to admit though, the stereo sounded Fooquete exelent!

[Phoenix666]

ok, just the 2.0 conversion guide dont say anything about replacing ewxhausts :

lol if you don't know what your doing then whats the point in messing things up,

i build custom stainless systems and my god does and exhaust make a difference when your tuning a car.

sound deadening isn't the answer and like everyone is saying to you its quite easy to fix in less than £200 and also saves you from putting in 3 tons of sound deadening which means you need an exhaust just to get the power to pull your car.

[CossieDan]

lol if you don't know what your doing then whats the point in messing things up,

i build custom stainless systems and my god does and exhaust make a difference when your tuning a car.

mess things up how? not really sure what you mean, all i wana do is have it a bit less noisey in the car.
i know exhausts make a big difference, otherwise i wouldnt of spent £140 on a new system (although i now know it dont make that much diff to a 1.6 zetec ) and i know it wouldnt be expensive to get a new standard system, but as ive just got a new one as said above i kinda want getting another new one to be a last resort

my stereo also sounds nicer now since i deadened my boot btw only used a couple of layers of standard eDead but i probably would of done this anyway. just wanted to know if it would affect the exhaust drone that much

as far as the 2.0 conversion, thats a long way away yet i havnt really looked into it just skimmed through the guide to see if i should bother working on my car or just get a frst and start again
would i need a custom system then? not talking about getting massive performance out of it just something to run it normally

[CossieDan]

dunno if this will make much diff but the exhaust i have now isnt just 1.6 specific, its labeled as si 1.600 and XR2i 1800

[fiend]

dunno if this will make much diff but the exhaust i have now isnt just 1.6 specific, its labeled as si 1.600 and XR2i 1800

Yeah, because they are both zetec engines.. so I assume the bore is the same size?

[CossieDan]

i need to be spoken to like a child when it comes to engine stuff im afraid
whats the bore u mean the size of the tube?
its the same on the 2.0 zetec too isnt it? in which case what would the difference between my exhaust and one made for a 2.0l be?

[XR2-40]

ok, so you obv dont want to change the exhaust..
i don't know of the later Fiesta systems from Ashley but the mk2 ones have a cherry bomb type section that gives them a lot fot he noise.. you could get someone to relatively cheaply replace that with a piece of straight pipe. It looks like a buldged section of exhaust rather than a proper box so you know what to have a check for.

Can't say it will quieten it down completely but should take the edge off it.

[CossieDan]

ah i wondered why it had 2 big sections in it when the standard only had 1, cheers i'll try that
btw anyone know if the escort mk5 1.6 zetec exhaust manifold is the same as the fiesta mk3 1.6? if so will it replace the catalytic converter like it does in the escort?
Escort mk5 manifold
cheers

[Maff Si]

That's very short, looks like it will just replace your existing Exhaust Fannyfold upto the cat!
If so you'd need another section to go from the centre box forward to de-cat it