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[MAD_Adamski]

gonna order a new cam kit for my FRST tomorrow which is the best option????

i know the kent 36 is a v good cam

but i hear newman ones can be v good too, so just unsure which to go for

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[mike_wall15]

Thought you would have given this more thought than a day before purchase!

Go for the cheaper option!

[MAD_Adamski]

i have been looking into it just narrowed it down to a certain cam for each company BUT i think i am swaying towards the KENT...

[heeman10]

Don't rush into it, get power charts/opinions/prices etc first, there's no hurry!

[RS_Rawli]

toss a coin.

[gar mae]

I've heard good thinks about the Newman cams and defo worth having a closer look into them, but then agin Kent have been around for ages and know their stuff. Worth doing more research into them before buying any.

What about Piper?

[MAD_Adamski]

i have been looking for a while BUT the 36 kent seems to deliver the best power of the kent range, PIPER i used to have and wasn't too impressed TBH. ian howell always recommends kent and i don't know many people with the newman to comment on them....

but repricing tonight, the kent is £300 the newman cam kit will cost about £350 with mech lifters to adjust, so i think i will be ordering the kent due to cost saving, feedback and as ian said they have been around for a while and i know 95% of people using there cams say there faultless...

piper cams which i have heard used alot tend to be a bit lumpy/visous not as nice delivery ....

pretty much made up my mind now

unless someone talks me outa it

[heeman10]

What if I told you Kent cams are peaky?

[MAD_Adamski]

what u mean peaky?? MR cheeky

[Fezzy Turbo]

I have been having the same dilemma for my new engine. But i was swaying towards the Kent as well

[heeman10]

what u mean peaky?? MR cheeky

[turboboss]

i dont know why people bother with kent cams there cvh blanks are utter s**t,its a toss up weather you get a good one or not. pay the little extra for the newman cam they much longer then kent.
adjusting the solid lifters is easy, i do like the profiles kent have at there disposal but why buy something which wont last. i have fitted some good kent cams and then others not so good, but newman get the thumbs up from me . cvh cams wear out quicker then most cams especially on number four cylinder, kent are aware of this problem but wont use better Material.
If you have problems with your kent cam you just try to return it, kent wont want to know, do a search on passionford and read all the horror stories YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

[turbodaily]

ive had a fair few kent cams and havent had any problems with them. their length of life all depends on the first 20mins of running them up.

[turboboss]

ive had a fair few kent cams and havent had any problems with them. their length of life all depends on the first 20mins of running them up.

you have had a fair few what in the same engine? and how many miles did they last, some kent cvh cams are good others are bad . yes the first twenty mins are the most important.but i have heard of kent cams lasting 100 miles to 3000 miles, newman cams will last longer period!! dont take my word for it like i said do a search on passionford, all of these Problematic cams have been run in properly.

[turbodaily]

lol nah on different engines, all my mates have used kent cams aswell without probs. havent used a newman so cant comment on them, but ive heard good things so far.

[MAD_Adamski]

well after speak to the owner of newman looks like theres one on my way as on the phone he was cheaper ...

his actual words were double valve springs are a gimic and not needed so std new tiems frm ford used with his cam and lifters will more than suffice for for around £250 i'm happy

[turboboss]

well after speak to the owner of newman looks like theres one on my way as on the phone he was cheaper ...

his actual words were double valve springs are a gimic and not needed so std new tiems frm ford used with his cam and lifters will more than suffice for for around £250 i'm happy

proper double valve springs are not a gimic who did you talk to @ newman cams ken or his dad most probably ken, why i am saying that even though a cam Manufacturer will have forgotten more then i will ever know the valve springs from kent and piper are no better then standard ford springs. some cam profiles have to have due to the lift proper custom double valve springs like the ones from pumaracing.co.uk which i am currently using. for his off the shelf rs turbo cam the standard valve springs will suffice. im am currently running a custom newman cam which has a slightly wilder profile then the cvh37, i would of run into problems if i did'nt use double valve springs. my newman cam has seen two engines and 15000 miles and still hardly any wear, i bet any kent cam after a few hundred miles has quite a bit of wear.

[MAD_Adamski]

prob more than right mate BUT for anything upto about 300bhp i would say there not needed i explained my spec and he said it was fine, the guy sounded old too... BUT correct for your spec as doubles would be needed for HIGH specs rev'd harder which he did say but this cam is good for what i want as never want the sort of power you have and will not need to rec it too far either

[turbodaily]

why would kent cam wear quicker than a newman though? arent they made from the same material?

[MAD_Adamski]

not the same material mate hence why you HAVE to use there special lifters he said his cams will literally last 30secs in a head before it chews the std lifters

[turbodaily]

ah right so i guess theyre alot more heavy duty.. what cam profile is the newman, similar to a 35?

[MAD_Adamski]

unsure exactly he said the power band is about 2000-6500 then tails off denends on your setup tho too

[turbodaily]

well let us know how you get on mate

[BUTRE]

Newman cam for the CVH is harsher than the CVH35.
Newman cam material is better than any kent CVH cam.
Newman cam for the CVH has got a proper finish called Barreling that removes the tiny sharp edges that you can't see so that it won't wear the lifters.

Also, newman cam are too wild for the MFi. You'll need proper management. Don't know about the FRST ecu...

There's nothing wrong with solid lifters and they are not hard to adjust. Also, they don't go faulty like the hydro ones when unleashing hell on track for 1h.

Double valve springs are needed for high revs and/or for really high lift cams. Never took a look at the CVH concerning this and never mesured the std CVH spring rate so can't accuarely comment on this. One thing I know: CVH std gear cam is too heavy for a 8v engine! Oh no... not another Ford mistake that we need to sort out (and... oh no my head is going to be once again ripped off because of this last comment )

[Fezzy Turbo]

Well in defence of Kent cams, i had been running one in my old engine for 40,000 miles and it was looking great when i removed it. Okay it wasnt a wild cam, but im sure it would be the same material as the rest.

[BUTRE]

I'm not saying that kent cams are bad... just saying that the newman one (and only one for CVH turbo) is made and finished better.

Until now I've not known anyone complaining of CVH cam braking, so if the cam is properly runned in and good oil pressure is always obtained, kent cam will server for good milage. Now, how often do you guys change oil? And oil filter?

3000miles or 1year... which comes first I change everything and never use anything thinner than 10w40 (cvh oil pump does not handle very good thinner oils).

[fiecos dan]

I've had a few Kent cams fail in my CVH's.

had a 35, and a 36 fail between 2000 -4000 miles, they both picked up on a tappet, and destroyed them self's

But i have also had a 35, last 20 k miles and still fine after, (i measure it)


All fitted properly on the same engine, by myself.



Now going to go over to a solid Newmans, As not gonna risk another cam failure.