Next Step's in Tuning (2i)

CVH and Zetec tuning, suspension and braking mods.

Next Step's in Tuning (2i)

Postby Fletcher on Thu Jun 13, 2002 12:38 am

i have a xr2i(8v) and the only engine mods so far are a K&N induction kit and a full magnex ss exhaust, just wondering what you guys would advise tuning wise,

i was considering a performance manifold, but which would you recomend??

i was also looking at cams and a ported & polished head, is this the right way to go or is it just a lot of money for not much in return????

(p.s i dont want nos)
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Postby moulder on Thu Jun 13, 2002 12:18 pm

cam, head, anyhting really, it all depends on how big ur wallet is. If u fit it urself it will be loads cheaper.
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Postby xr2i 1649 on Fri Jun 14, 2002 5:24 pm

this is wot i think
u r runing say 110bhp at this time.
I have spent over £3000 and i get 132bhp=22bhp 4 3G
that is £137 4 1 bhp
so i say it a lot of money 4 not much in return.
but it is fun and u can do some saxo
and if ppl say they have 140bhp it balls :D
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Postby Fletcher on Fri Jun 14, 2002 7:43 pm

so really its gonna be a cheaper for me to just do a rst conversion as most of it i would be able 2 do myself,

is there a guide anywhere?? also what parts will i need (except obviously the engine and gearbox)????
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Postby xr2i 1649 on Fri Jun 14, 2002 8:10 pm

i think the best thing u can do is wot they r all doing
and that is the 2L zetec.
lots of ppl have dun that mod and love it .
and go 4 the alpha throttle bodies kit it has most of the bit u wont 2 put the lump :)
But the kit cost £1595 :(
but then u get 165bhp and no lag :)
(but thats wot I think) :wink:
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Postby Fletcher on Sat Jun 15, 2002 12:32 pm

would i need to change the driveshafts and a load of other mods for that?? isnt the rst a much easier conversion :-? ??
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Postby FezzR on Sat Jun 15, 2002 12:38 pm

deffinity go for a zetec 2L conversion! every one raves about them and they wicked! and although turbos are good most of the time all i seem to hear on hear is moans about turbos not running proper but that IMO :D
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Postby Project on Sat Jun 15, 2002 1:20 pm

Driveshafts are compatible, so no probs there.

Haynes sell a £15 CVH tuning manual which covers race and rally prep for the CVH, both naturally aspirated (i.e. the XR2i) and turbo'd (FRST).

2.0L Zetec is a very good engine and well worth going for.
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Postby FezzR on Sat Jun 15, 2002 1:24 pm

HE HITS HE SCORES :D :lol:
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Postby Fletcher on Sat Jun 15, 2002 1:35 pm

cheers for the advice, think im gonna go for the 2.0, to be honest i prefer n/a engines anyway :D
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Postby freak power on Sat Jun 15, 2002 2:37 pm

I have a 2.0 ZVH ( Zetec bottom end with CVH head ) it also has weber alpha 40mm throttle bodies as you can see from the pic.
Its a grate engine that revs to 8000rpm all day long, it also has grate torque with big power too.
Now driving a 1999 Audi S3 with 2.1 20v OD HTAGT3582r Turbo

Bring on the 650+Bhp 4x4 monster
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Postby xr2i 1649 on Sat Jun 15, 2002 3:17 pm

that is 1 hell of a lump
in that car freak :D
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Postby freak power on Sat Jun 15, 2002 4:41 pm

I have just rebuilt it with even more go faster bits :D
Now driving a 1999 Audi S3 with 2.1 20v OD HTAGT3582r Turbo

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Postby xr2i 1649 on Sat Jun 15, 2002 4:57 pm

but it was the nut in the mag
wot it running now
yes i no fast :lol:
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Postby freak power on Sat Jun 15, 2002 5:50 pm

Its still a 2.0 ZVH but with a diffrent cam, 11.1 C/R, L/B flywheel, Total seal piston rings, a new box, iridium plugs, and other little bits and bats
Now driving a 1999 Audi S3 with 2.1 20v OD HTAGT3582r Turbo

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Postby xr2i 1649 on Sun Jun 16, 2002 4:49 pm

Freak do u no wot + u got from tottle bodies
as i a thinking of getting some
but if u got under 25 bhp then they r not 4 me
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Postby freak power on Sun Jun 16, 2002 4:57 pm

I was told 30-40bhp more but when i built my engine i did everything at once, the ZVH, head, cam, throttle bodies, fuel pump and so on.
The last time my car was on the rollers it put out 193bhp at the flywheel it should have 205+ now. :D
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Postby xr2i 1649 on Sun Jun 16, 2002 5:20 pm

Thx think i mite get some
is there a kit 4 the cvh or do i have 2 make 1
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Postby freak power on Sun Jun 16, 2002 5:32 pm

I made one up from a kit for a 1800 Zetec
You will need a diffrent manifold
make a pipe for the water temp sensor
If you use the EFI head a alloy plate needs to be made up for the inlet ( i can send you a paper cut out of one so you can have one made up )
I had to use the injectors from the 2.0 Zetec kit cos i have a 2.0
Theres no room for air filters
You need to make a tube for the air temp sensor
Then you have to get it mapped for the 1.6CVH cos there is no kit as yet for the CVH but its all worth it in the end and the sound is grate
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Postby xr2i 1649 on Sun Jun 16, 2002 5:51 pm

I can make up the the plates my self as i make thing like that at work
but its the ECU that i am not that not on
a place in oxford say they can do it 4 3G
do u think that is good
if not then i will give it a go my self


p.s will webcon sell me a diffrent in let manifold
or is it the 1 of the old 40 carbs
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Postby freak power on Sun Jun 16, 2002 7:14 pm

3k is a lot, you can get it done for about 2.3k
The kit costs £1800 then then theres mapping and paying somone to toe/transport your car to the nearby alpha dealer to have it mapped and set up

Weber will swap the manifold for you if you ask them
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Postby xr2i 1649 on Sun Jun 16, 2002 7:33 pm

Thx
going 2 look in 2 it
but was thinking some thing dif
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Postby moulder on Mon Jun 17, 2002 12:15 am

XR2i 1649 - u spent 3 grand and only have 130 bhp. What did ya spend it on, as I cant see carbs or throttle bodies which I would have guessed woul;d bumo it up to 3k. Or maybe u include 3 grand with other mods other than tuning. Id say that Throttle bodies would be good on a CVH but carbs wouold be so much cheaper and simplier, simply bolt onn and jet up.. u may need a little wiring though but not sure.
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Postby xr2i 1649 on Mon Jun 17, 2002 6:48 pm

my engine spic
1649
stage 3 cyliner head
inlet manifold and exaust manifold mached
fast road cam (piper)
adiustable cam pulley (piper)
solid followers
duplex modified valve springs
stainless valves
mahle pistons
tuftrided crankshaft and so on
+ superchip set up by superchip
magnex exaust
piper induction kit
140psi facet fuel pump(do not no y i got that :lol: ) :-?
power boost valve
think there is more :-?
over £3000 :D =132bhp and 124pt
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Postby xr2i 1649 on Mon Jun 17, 2002 7:11 pm

O 2 run carbs have 2 get new E C U
as well :(
other mods
Avo coilovers
super T's and 195-45-15 yocs
Ebc green stuff disc and pads and calipers
and poly bushes
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Postby moulder on Mon Jun 17, 2002 8:56 pm

Sounds lie u have been busy. Whats ur 0-60 and 1/4 mile times as all that tuning stuff sounds impressive but whats the scorre on the clock. Im torn between keeping my 2i engine and doing something similar to u but hopefully not at 3k, or just bung a 2l in on carbs. Does ur car shift pretty well? :D
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Postby xr2i 1649 on Tue Jun 18, 2002 10:05 pm

Not as good as i wont :lol:
i was at fiesta frash 2000 and ran a 16.56 1/4 mil
i'd just dun the lump 1500mil on it no chip and bits on it then
(it was in Performance ford at the frash :D )
but have got the 1/4 down 2 16.02 (on a cold day :lol: )
do not no the 0-60 :(
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Postby moulder on Wed Jun 19, 2002 7:45 pm

Well a set of carbs and ul shave a second off at least. Blatantly gonna be a phat motor then. :D
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