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[Wude Si 16v]

I really want both of these but can only afford one. i thought i would get your lots opinion as i don't know what to do. i have a 1.6 Si and need more power, but which is the way to go...?

Prices:-

Get a frst off someone on here (not mentioning names... ) £1500
Nitrous £750

Does anyone the good and bad points of both,

any help appreciated, A.

[Wude Si 16v]

just to ponit out,

frst - this would be an engine conversion into the Si
nitrous - 50bhp jets onto the Si engine

[lazy_arse_pie]

shurley you can get a frst for a lil bit more than 1500 then sell the si and spent that money on th frst ? or insurance

jeff

[FezzR]

i would sell the si for a frst
and nos is never really an option untill u got a mega strong fast engine in my eyes. (although mechanically this isnt true)

[Wude Si 16v]

i cant sell the si as i have had some mods that you cant get that often,

e.g smoothed in rs skirts, molded in jap spoiler, you get the picture.

cheers, A.

[~nomad~]

i would sell the si for a frst
and nos is never really an option untill u got a mega strong fast engine in my eyes. (although mechanically this isnt true)

Well you need a good strong lump but it don't have to be fast. A 50bhp shot of NOS in a 120bhp engine and you will notice the difference!

[davy]

go for the rst conversion - that way you will have more power all of the time, rather than just a quick blast now and again. Also check with insurance before doing so - i think they wont like either very much but conversion will proabably be cheaper, but then again who knows?

[Phil Si]

erm, maybee go 2.0?? can be done for less than 300 quid, and ring adrian flux for a quote, u migt be suprised

[elm_us]

agree with phil DAM did i just say that must be ill

i was thinking about nos'ing my SI but then i thought about a turbo lump and its cheaper and easyer and more gains from fitting a 2l

[FezzR]

yea i wasnt saying that nos wouldnt work or wouldnt be that effective just think there a better things to do!
and i deffo think that 2l would be a way more sensable way to spend ur money than 1.6 turbo

andi like to know where i could get a 2.0 done for less than 300, could get engine for less than 300 but the other parts and upgrades and fitting would be not where near 300 but plz tell if u know otherwise! (although im not sure how much there is to upgrade with the si converstion?)

[mupster]

NOS will really really reduce the life of your engine and make the car nearly un sell able. If you want a quicker car get one which is quick to start with.

but out of the 2 options the turbo is a better idea. you will keep putting money into new nos tanks otherwise..

[Phil Si]

sorry fezzer boy, i meant under £300 for him, as he only needs the ngine, all the rest is ok loom and tank wise etc .... but yea will need the lot, so say 500 MAX i think.

the turbo will give u better power , but the 2.0 will be more reliable, its up to you tho

[Phil Si]

erm, upgrade wise... the way i look at is, the rs1800 rates at 136 had same brakes as the Si... and hte 2.0 is rated at 136 so the brakes will be fine
seriously tho, u might wanna upgrade your brakes to cossy ones if u have the money and 15's or bigger rim.... u can get the calipers for 90, or if u know peeps etc then abit cheaper

driveshafts and suspension are fine... exhaust is the same too, u just need to swap over all the bits like sump, manifolds etc etc....
if u are lucky like me then the manifold didnt need the ports modding, but mark S did need to on his 1.8 manifold

i am sure the brainy folk will help u out tho on here i am but a mere mortal

[The Gilly]

Phil mate we're going to need to talk about this

[FezzR]

umm i think i need to find an si!
cos if u ask lou about her upgrade it cost about 1k to go 1.1 -> 2.0 (cost her quite a bit more though )

you could of course do both ie 2.1 turbo

[Wude Si 16v]

thanx for all your comments. i don't agree that the NOS would de-value a car, i think it is a selling point of the car.

i was worried about converting back to a cvh engine aswell, if i had NOS i could always convert to 2.0l at a later stage and then swap my nitrous over.

i would love a turbo but the conversion would be a lot more money and not nessasarily the sensible choice...

anyone else with opinions...?

thanx again, A.

[chumkila]

DO IT MATE!!

[Phil Si]

to spend 750 quid on nos, even if u went for the 50bhp jets which iwoldnt really think wise? its alot of money, 2.0 conversion = 300ish and u can get it into the 140 area... much cheeper and reliable....

[Swanick]

Tuuuurboo

[chumkila]

DO IT MATE!!

[Phil Si]

if u went turbo route u would be taking a step back in terms of technology , ie 16v to 8v, but its up to u

[chumkila]

DO IT MATE!!

[rs125]

NOS will really really reduce the life of your engine and make the car nearly un sell able. If you want a quicker car get one which is quick to start with.

but out of the 2 options the turbo is a better idea. you will keep putting money into new nos tanks otherwise..

If used *corectly* NOS will not damage your engine at all - also whats this about making your car un sell able ?? just remove the kit and no one will be any the wiser ..simple..

[andymac]

Using NOS causes massive increases in stresses on the engine. You are heating and flash cooling the engine when you run NOS. The extra stress caused by the rapid expansions and contractions usually cause problems aroung the injector port(s), namely stress fractures.

Whether its installed "properly" or not, the additional stress WILL cause microfractures which will lead to premature failure.

I personally would never buy a car with nos installed and in this application, I would definately go the 2.0 16v route. Its not a massively involved swap, the only issues he'll have are 100% centered around engine managemet and an aftermarket ecu will fix that (and give him a decent power hike if mapped correctly).

It's been said time and time again, the returns in power after spending money on a zetec 1.6 are minimal adn not really worth it. 750 quid for a nos setup if you install it yourself.... you can buy a 2.0, have cash spare and STILL have as much power for that amount of money.

[FezzR]

It's been said time and time again, the returns in power after spending money on a zetec 1.6 are minimal adn not really worth it. 750 quid for a nos setup if you install it yourself.... you can buy a 2.0, have cash spare and STILL have as much power for that amount of money.

plus u not only get same amount of power, its a constant power and not a 1 off power!

[andymac]

You mean 32 pence a second power ?

[FezzR]

You mean 32 pence a second power ?

that'll be the stufff

[InS@nE]

turbo everytime out the 2 options.

yeah nos would be cool and nos would be fun, untill ya tanks empty and need filling again, on average ya looking at 50 quid of nos a month using it funly

with a turbo you got power everytime not just when ya tanks full

get a turbo, get the engine sweet and then nos it imho