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[FiestaXR]

hi,
i want to optimize the air intake on my RS1800. At the moment, only a K&N intake kit is installed. Can you give me some hints and tips how to optimize the air flow ? Every mod must be tested and approved by the german TÜV, so a throttle body kit isn't an option

Greets from Bavaria,

Flo

[lee si]

have to spend silly money on cosworth parts then, not really worth it for the gain,

[FiestaXR]

cosworth parts for the zetec? do you have a link or some pics?

[JayC]

Hi Flo... welcome to the forum
I guess you have to stick to TÜV standards because of the laws in germany when your car is tested for ordinance?

you already have a K+N which will improve airflow but your still restricted by your intake pipe.. do you have the intake pipe that comes with the filter or are you still using the original intake pipe?

theres not really alot you can do, if you find a TÜV approved exhaust system for your car this will help, as exhaust is just as important as intake but unfortunaltly i cannot recommend any but there are german members on here and there will be UK chaps who can advise more

you say 'optimize', ide say you have chosen that word in translation but it can cover a multitude of sins.. so continuing from optimize.. have you ever considered the heatsoak when the engine bay has warmed up, at slow speeds and when stationary this will cause efficiency to drop and the revs to drop, you might not worry about this as generaly you will be driving at high speeds where you will not be affected by heatsoak..

idealy locating the filter underneath the battery trays is nice.

also a good spark plug change and ht leads also a new lambda and a clean maf sensor (spray with brake cleaner or get it cleaned ultrasonic) all of this will make the engine much more efficient and you will gain some nice clean power from just this alone without affecting anything that matters come test time.

you could fit a 2.0 engine but the gains are minimal im sure..

turbocharge?

[FiestaXR]

I'm using the original intake pipe, with an complete exhaust system and a 4-2-1 manifold, i think thats the best possible setup in germany.

i'll will relocte my k&n under the battery tray, like you said. i don't want to turbocharge the engine, because its not easy to legalize.

Thank you so far for advice!

[lee si]

http://www.burtonpower.co.uk

theres the link, they do throttle bodies and cams for zetec

[JayC]

as lee si said you could get cams.. i doubt your inspectorate would be bothered to take the cam cover off and check the cams for a TUV stamp..

[FiestaXR]

cams are already fitted

[JayC]

well mate i think youve done all you can sounds like you have the cams filter and exhaust sorta there as far as you can with regards to the law.. i guess you have a chip too lol? maybe a remap of the original ecu but i only know of one place who can remap the eec-4 and thats here in the UK..

what about a tuv approved nitrous kit or just a non tuv and remove it at test time.. not saying you should break the law or anything of course

[Wardy257]

The standard airbox can flow enough for 150 bhp, it doe snot need modifying. The inlet manifold only flows enough for 150 bhp anyway so that woudl be the first thing to sort out. Chips, decats, 4-2-1 manifold etc are all a waste of time.

[Ratspeed]

The standard airbox can flow enough for 150 bhp, it doe snot need modifying. The inlet manifold only flows enough for 150 bhp anyway so that woudl be the first thing to sort out. Chips, decats, 4-2-1 manifold etc are all a waste of time.

righto

[Wardy257]

The standard airbox can flow enough for 150 bhp, it doe snot need modifying. The inlet manifold only flows enough for 150 bhp anyway so that woudl be the first thing to sort out. Chips, decats, 4-2-1 manifold etc are all a waste of time.

righto

Glad to help and save you wasting money

[Ratspeed]

Wardy, you maybe missunderstand. It is called sarcasm

[Wardy257]

Wardy, you maybe missunderstand. It is called sarcasm

No, it was counter sarcasm.

[Ratspeed]

Ahh, i see. It was as genuine and truthfull as all of your posts.

[Wardy257]

Your a funny guy, give yourself a pat on the back.

If you think chips, induction kits etc are proper performance mods please tell me why ford never fit them? They would save millions in research, what idiots!! You could write to them, they may even hire you. Good luck.

[Ratspeed]

Dude, i dont join up to forums to argue with people who read too much. But why do people get thier cars chipped/re-mapped if there is no power gains?!
Oh, and ford dont fit them because it would probably cost far too much. Thats like saying why didn't ford just sell the FRST with 200 bhp. Do you really beleive what you write?

[SiZT]

Your a funny guy, give yourself a pat on the back.

If you think chips, induction kits etc are proper performance mods please tell me why ford never fit them? They would save millions in research, what idiots!! You could write to them, they may even hire you. Good luck.

^^^ This guy's wicked, can we keep him??? He can be like "Bosch Deaker" is on Passion Ford

chips, gammon and induction kits aren't fitted by ford because the cars have to be up to a certain standard before they can be homologated. When a car manufacturer releases a new car they don't just send it off to a seedy back street MOT garage to make sure its safe and its emissions are fine

also not everyone wants an engine thats running at its absoloute peak and is noisy because its got an induction kit on it

[JayC]

woah whats happened its all gone forum core fight fight fight!!

wardy.. i think ford didnt do alot of things because of cost driveablitity for all candidates (yes some 90 year olds do drive rs turbos etc) compremise for all aspects..

but i see your point.. i mean why didnt they fit a 2.1 zetec turbo to every fiesta.. i personaly think you would be better off working for ford

[Wardy257]

Dude, i dont join up to forums to argue with people who read too much. But why do people get thier cars chipped/re-mapped if there is no power gains?!

Because they believe the garbage they read in Fast Ford etc. Some chips work (mainly on Turbo cars), most chips dont. On the ZETEC it is a waste of time. Its your money to waste.

[MattPym]

Dude, i dont join up to forums to argue with people who read too much. But why do people get thier cars chipped/re-mapped if there is no power gains?!

Because they believe the garbage they read in Fast Ford etc. Some chips work (mainly on Turbo cars), most chips dont. On the ZETEC it is a waste of time. Its your money to waste.

Not exactly, Chips for the zetec as far as the RS1800 is concerned was mainly to remove a "flat spot" in the revs around 3.5k, just so happens that there is a slight power increase as well

Are you going to tell me i'm wrong because i drive one