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[fezzapower]

Hi im currently undertaking an engine conversion on my mint 1.1 mk3 fiesta, im putting in an XR2i 1.6 lump in, with that also going in will be the gearbox, clutch, brakes etc.

Im planning to give the XR2i some more bite to it, they are quite quick as standard but i want more but cant afford the prices people want for RS engines and the insurance that goes with them along with the other mods that my car has is too much for my liking.

Im having a 50bhp spray of nitrous oxide put in, super chipping it and putting in an electric supercharger. But i want to do a bit more than this, as im planning to use this as a track car as well as a quick road car.

Ive been looking everywhere for other performance parts but cant seem to find many places that do fiesta parts.

If anyone knows of any websites that stock fiesta performance parts, such as racing clutchs, enlarged throttle bodys, forged pistons, etc that will fit an XR2i. I would be most gratefull if you could post them in this thread for me.

cheers

[Oranoco]

I spent a good few quid on my old XR2i and got it to a respectable 130bhp.

What do you mean by electric Supercharger?

To be honest you'll find it easier to insure the car with a turbo lump in than with nitrous and most circuits won't allow you to run N2O on their track.

To be honest by time you've built a big power na XR motor you could have just gone out and brought a complete FRST and then chipped it and have more power than the XR.

Decide what you want to do with the car properly and then work out what you want from the car.

It sounds like you're not sure what direction the car is to go in.

[fezzapower]

yea i know, everyone says that you might as well get an RS turbo conversion but the insurance for an RST 1.8 is nearly 3 times that of a 1.6 XR2i so the nitrous shouldnt jack it up that much. Also the main track i will be running it at is santa pod, down the drag strip and i know full well that they allow nitrous oxide.

And i know exactly where my cars going, ive done all the research into the products im buying for it, ive been planning this project car for the past 2 years, so i think i have a damn good idea where this car is going.

An electric super charger works along the same lines as a normal supercharger, but instead of being belt driven, it is driven by an electric motor, connected to the battery. Its possition directly behind you airfilter on your induction system. They are a nice touch on a turbo'd motor as they help to decrease turbo lagg.

i want a car with very nice acceleration, im not bothered about top end as much, so a 1.6 XR2i will keep me happy for a while, then in a few years when im hopefully earning a bit more money, im gunna take that out and put an escort RS2000 engine in it.

So any good sites that sell fiesta parts????

[xrsi]

yea i know, everyone says that you might as well get an RS turbo conversion but the insurance for an RST 1.8 is nearly 3 times that of a 1.6 XR2i so the nitrous shouldnt jack it up that much. Also the main track i will be running it at is santa pod, down the drag strip and i know full well that they allow nitrous oxide.

And i know exactly where my cars going, ive done all the research into the products im buying for it, ive been planning this project car for the past 2 years, so i think i have a damn good idea where this car is going.

An electric super charger works along the same lines as a normal supercharger, but instead of being belt driven, it is driven by an electric motor, connected to the battery. Its possition directly behind you airfilter on your induction system. They are a nice touch on a turbo'd motor as they help to decrease turbo lagg.

i want a car with very nice acceleration, im not bothered about top end as much, so a 1.6 XR2i will keep me happy for a while, then in a few years when im hopefully earning a bit more money, im gunna take that out and put an escort RS2000 engine in it.

So any good sites that sell fiesta parts????

i would if i were you ring up and find out exactly how much n2o does increase insurance befor saying "it wont be that much"

also do you know that alot of companies do not insure the car while nos is being used, you can have it fitted but there is a disclaimer that it wont be used on public roads or for racing in many insurances.

[Jonezy]

you may also find the electric supercharger to be a big waste of time,
the current that wud have to be drawn by a moter powerful enough to produce any noticable boost will probably destroy and gained performance and lose you power.

[fezzapower]

My nitrous install will more than likely not be used on the roads, i was planning to use it for santa pod drag strip and some track days and have the bottle disconected and in my garage the rest of the time, unless i can find an insurer that will insure it for road use as well.

As for the cost of nitrous to insure, yes it may be a lot but the boost gained my nitrous oxide is greater than that of a turbo. And the hole point behind this car is that it gets to its top end quickly, not that it has a high end, which means nitrous suits that job nicely.

Now so far ive only got critisism for what i plan to do to my car, thats not what i asked for even though its mostly constructive. Does anyone know of any places that sell performance bits, such as forged pistons, uprated clutchs and racing boxs for ford fiesta MK3's, preferable the XR2i so i dont have to bodge anything to fit.

thanks

[Oranoco]

1. If you have a nitrous kit in the car even without the bottle (lines pulsoids etc) and you need to claim an insurer can and will decline the claim if it's not been declared.

2. On a 1.6 CVH you will not gain more power with N20 than with a turbo. Stock EFi 1.6 develops 108bhp, with N2O you may safely get to 140 before things start jumping ship. A 1.6 Turbo motor will do 133bhp from the box and very basic tuning will see past 160bhp. 200+bhp is easy peasy.

3. You would require an expensive N20 setup to achieve what yuo are after that pales the cost of a turbo engine swap into insignificance. To do what you seem to want you'll need a bit more than your average street dry kit with 25 jets.

4. If you do N2O your car the standard box etc should be quite up to the job at hand. The only thing that may need some attention would be the clutch but something like an AP organic should suffice. The gearbox may well throw it's toys out of the pram at some point and a Bernie box for bout £650 should suffice and get one with the LSD as it will help get the power down. Brakes should also be upgraded but this is a good idea on a near stock car never mind one with an extra 30bhp or so.

Don't think people are being negative as it seems people are just trying to give you the benefit of their experience and stop you making a lot of expensive mistakes. If the 1.6 RST motor is too much to insure you should seriously look at dropping a 2.0 in from a Mondeo. Ironically these conversions can often be cheaper to insure than the 1.8 Zetec option.

[fezzapower]

1. im declaring that it has a nitrous kit, but that the bottle is not attached and in use unless on the track. This is even stated in the insurance help section on this website

I appreaciate that you have a different opinion on how to mod/tune a fiesta, but you seem very anti against my way.

I am modding my car around my likes and dislikes and my driving style, for instance taking bends at high speeds is something i can do quite well, so i lowered the car and stiffened up the suspension to make this even easier.

And i did state that two of the things i wanted help finding was an uprated racing or sports gearbox and clutch, so clutch taking damage wont be as much of an issue if i can find one of those.
And some forged pistons

sorry if i have been rude, i just been feeling like s**t and get wound up easy when im ill.

[chumkila]

fezzapower no one is trying to force you to modify your Fiesta their way. Please bear in mind there are people on this site who have been modifying Fiesta's / Fords (amongst other makes) to a level of which others can only dream of for a very very long time. If is very rare for people on here to be harsh and critical of others views (a factor that keeps many people on this site) and from reading the above posts none of the chaps who've responded in your thread are being unreasonable.

As you yourself just said there are different ways to mod/tune a Fiesta, these chaps are just giving you their own opinions based on their experiences, whether you take this onboard as a contructive or negative criticism is solely down to you.

I don't normal get involved in these kinds of threads but I must say by you shouting and raving on here will not get the sort of reply that you want. Everyone on here is either working, studying or just a bum LOL and those with the answers you're looking for cannot post immediately. Give them time.

RSpec'

P.S. If you had a browse of the main site and the forum the following names / sites would have cropped up...

General Parts
http://www.burtonpower.com

Pistons
http://www.accralite.com
http://www.mahle.com
http://www.ariaspistons.com

Throttle Bodies
http://www.dunnell.co.uk
http://www.jenvey.co.uk

[Dazza]

Whinging little tart, Chumkila was trying to help as were the others. but pay extra attention to Chums last post. I suggest you let this topic disapear before you get a name for yourself

[fezzapower]

:rolleyes:

fezzapower no one is trying to force you to modify your Fiesta their way. Please bear in mind there are people on this site who have been modifying Fiesta's / Fords (amongst other makes) to a level of which others can only dream of for a very very long time. If is very rare for people on here to be harsh and critical of others views (a factor that keeps many people on this site) and from reading the above posts none of the chaps who've responded in your thread are being unreasonable.

As you yourself just said there are different ways to mod/tune a Fiesta, these chaps are just giving you their own opinions based on their experiences, whether you take this onboard as a contructive or negative criticism is solely down to you.

I don't normal get involved in these kinds of threads but I must say by you shouting and raving on here will not get the sort of reply that you want. Everyone on here is either working, studying or just a bum LOL and those with the answers you're looking for cannot post immediately. Give them time.

RSpec'

P.S. If you had a browse of the main site and the forum the following names / sites would have cropped up...

General Parts
http://www.burtonpower.com

Pistons
http://www.accralite.com
http://www.mahle.com
http://www.ariaspistons.com

Throttle Bodies
http://www.dunnell.co.uk
http://www.jenvey.co.uk

Thanks for the info chumkila, and yes i did get a bit stressed and OTT and i do apreciate advice, but i have thought through the direction i am planning on taking my fiesta and people are argueing the toss about it, fair enough, an RS turbo will give more power, but i dont want an RS turbo, i want an XR2i, i want to give it a some more pwer above standard and at a later date, perhaps go down the turbo road.

Its not the advice i was getting annoyed at, it was the way people where putting it across, they where saying it in a way that implied i had done no research into anything. If i percieved it wrong then i apologise for that, and i am a person that will happlily take advice on board normally, just the hole Nitrous issue you got me wound up (think thats how its spelt).

[Jonezy]

sorry if offenc ewas taken, i was just pointing out the fact that electric superchargers just dont work, and the £300 they cost (how much they are off fleebay anyway) could probs go towards much more benificial stuff.

happy tuning fella

[fezzapower]

yea i know they expensive, ive seen them going cheap on ebay, un-used before so it was just a thought. Im not willing to pay £300 for a glorified induction kit, the bhp gain isnt enough to warrent that kind of cash, ive seen them for £100 which i thinks a good deal, if i get bored i could just do it the c.h.a.v. way, by a cone filter for £20 at halfords and attach a hairdryer to it, that way i would have three speed settings and on cold days could use it to de-mist my windows lol.

[chumkila]

It's all good fezza, keep us updated on your progress though

[fezzapower]

cheers mate,

My animal body kit should be going on in January.

im hoping to have the engine stripped, cleaned up, re-built and in the car by around march time along with the rest of the running gear, but will have to wait and see if i can get it all done by then.

So hopefully in the new year my car should be looking a bit nicer and going a bit faster.

Cheers again for those websites mate.

Will have to post some pics in the pic section when i get some more done to it.