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Police Officers!

Postby ezza87 on Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:36 pm

Just a little video posted for you to watch, this is in Nottingham and i can't believe we pay for them to act like this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP2Lp5ql-Xg
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Re: Police Officers!

Postby jonboisescort on Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:09 pm

saw this on the news :x

hes on the floor and theres no need to punch him

another case of the police abusing there powers
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Re: Police Officers!

Postby Minstral on Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:59 pm

heard the clip on radio all day, takes 6 peoplle to arrest him even though he laying on the floor not doing anything. disgusting
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Re: Police Officers!

Postby jayrs on Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:55 pm

and they wonder why no c*nt has respect for the law!

fcuk the poilce, them coppers there should be sacked! they should be made to do a formal apology on live TV, then sacked, then arrested for GBH, all on live TV for all to see.

guy at the end of the vid said it all, fcuking w@nkers!
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Re: Police Officers!

Postby Rhinopower on Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:11 pm

From the video you see a guy on the floor, he has clearly resisted arrest and swings out and kicks the coppers, if he had stuck his arms out to take the cuffs it would not have happened? Have we really gone that soft in this country? In the days of your parents and grand parents if a copper caught you doing something you shouldn’t you would get a clip round the ear and sent on your way and watched your back through fear of him going and telling your parents. These days parents cant smack their kids and then wonder why they grow up to be disrespectful. The police are there to do their job, and if people are not scared of the repercussions they will break the law. If officers are too scared to arrest or confront someone, crimes will go unpunished, and the gangs/yobs/chives etc will be running the country. I’m all for them using whatever force necessary if someone resists arrest, maybe people will start behaving themselves.
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Re: Police Officers!

Postby jayrs on Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:33 pm

Rhinopower :From the video you see a guy on the floor, he has clearly resisted arrest and swings out and kicks the coppers, if he had stuck his arms out to take the cuffs it would not have happened? Have we really gone that soft in this country? In the days of your parents and grand parents if a copper caught you doing something you shouldn’t you would get a clip round the ear and sent on your way and watched your back through fear of him going and telling your parents. These days parents cant smack their kids and then wonder why they grow up to be disrespectful. The police are there to do their job, and if people are not scared of the repercussions they will break the law. If officers are too scared to arrest or confront someone, crimes will go unpunished, and the gangs/yobs/chives etc will be running the country. I’m all for them using whatever force necessary if someone resists arrest, maybe people will start behaving themselves.



are you taking the pi$$? i hear what ya saying and fully agree, but watch the video again, the guy is on the floor and they keep on tazering him and then punch him 3 times in the head! for what, cos he wont put his arms out.
na sorry, although i agree with what you say about yobs and ch@v's etc, from that video, the police are clearly taking it too far and abusing there powers!

ask your self this, if you were that guy on the floor, maybe a bit pi$$ed up and you got 2 coppers man handling you, maybe even trying to arrest you for just being a bit drunk, how would you then feel to be held down, tazered a few times, punched then arrested??? im guessing like evryone else, not happy!

sorry, the police are in the wrong in that video, set by example..., and thats not a good one.
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Re: Police Officers!

Postby Rhinopower on Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:43 pm

It looked more like he was getting punched in the arm and yeah, it may well of been un called for but his back is to us, he may of been trying to get the pissed up idiot to drop something, who knows? If he cant have a drink and behave himself its still his own fault. Every time he starts to lash out again they all step back and he gets tazered. Are they abusing their powers or showing who is in charge.

If i was that guy I would not be on the floor, even when I do get a bit rowdy after a drink, I sure as hell dont try and take on a couple of coppers!
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Re: Police Officers!

Postby lachojski2005 on Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:47 pm

that is taking it to far.the reason he dont put his hands out is cos hes trying to get the tazer spikes out his chest (where his heart is).it does look like he punches his arm but y does he?how is it ok for a copper to puch another human but we cant hit them bk?they are trained to deal with those situations and i bet they dint learn how to puch someone when they not give them there arm.
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Re: Police Officers!

Postby Sphinx on Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:50 pm

I've been wanting to see this video all day and I'm glad I have now.

The guy is clearly resisting arrest! If the police had told you to get on the floor and lay down face first then you f**king do it! He clearly is not!
I'm pretty sure that he wasn't some lovely friendly bloke just taking a stroll after helping his cousin with her math homework who the police just pounced on and tazered; that would only happen if every other method had been tried, ie, if the police ask/tell you to do something then you bloody well do it.
As for the punching; what was he holding in his left hand that he didn’t want to let go of? a knife? a bottle?
Again he was clearly not putting that arm behind his back so the copper was punching his shoulder to make him move it and drop whatever he was holding and put that arm behind his back.
How many times did they scream 'put your hands behind your back' and 'lay down' before they had to use force?

This winds me right up! Rightly or wrongly, if people actually feared the police then they might have some power to give people what they deserve. Instead though, people are sooooo quick to jump of the human rights bandwagon that the poor baxtered fear that if they do their job, they'll get persecuted in some way.
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Re: Police Officers!

Postby Rhinopower on Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:17 am

Sphinx :I've been wanting to see this video all day and I'm glad I have now.

The guy is clearly resisting arrest! If the police had told you to get on the floor and lay down face first then you f**king do it! He clearly is not!
I'm pretty sure that he wasn't some lovely friendly bloke just taking a stroll after helping his cousin with her math homework who the police just pounced on and tazered; that would only happen if every other method had been tried, ie, if the police ask/tell you to do something then you bloody well do it.
As for the punching; what was he holding in his left hand that he didn’t want to let go of? a knife? a bottle?
Again he was clearly not putting that arm behind his back so the copper was punching his shoulder to make him move it and drop whatever he was holding and put that arm behind his back.
How many times did they scream 'put your hands behind your back' and 'lay down' before they had to use force?

This winds me right up! Rightly or wrongly, if people actually feared the police then they might have some power to give people what they deserve. Instead though, people are sooooo quick to jump of the human rights bandwagon that the poor baxtered fear that if they do their job, they'll get persecuted in some way.


Glad someone agrees with me, you don't get in that situation for no reason, well done to the coppers! I hope this video helps show the police aren't to be messed with, i'm sure the crowd of people watching in the video think twice before kicking off now.
MotorcyclesFish :The thing is if I caught Brian fudgekin a bloke, I wouldn't think 'oh Brian's a gay', I'd think 'Brian that fudgekin weird haired mongoloid is raping a gay to see if anyone finds it funny' :lol: :lol:
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Re: Police Officers!

Postby jayrs on Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:32 am

jesus, im sorry but that is just a do gooders thinking, well done to the coppers :rolleyes:

yes the police need to be forceful, yes they need to take control, but at what point do they have the right to punch someone?
and tazer them over and over for mearly protecting him self?
your forgetting the main thing, the police are pro's, well ment to be, and they clearly are not acting like it, and that is the reason people dont like or respect the police! im not saying every copper is the same, but these 2 tw@ts give the good ones a bad name, even if you think what they done is fair or not, the fact is they abused there power!
god knows what the guy would be like if that pig had a 9mm rather than a tazer eh...

and think about it, if the guy had something in his hands, they would of got it from him before getting that close, and the tazer would of got him to drop that (or CS spray), it was purly to get him to get his hands behind his back, ok he resisted, but it still doesnt give them the right to hit someone, if you hit someone in the street like that, you would be nicked!
even i can restrain someone thats resisting without the need to tazer them or punch them :lol:

as for lashing out at the police, the guy has 2 coppers over him, tazering him, for all you know the guy might of been walking home singing loud and maybe swearing a bit, like most people do, and mr captin power trip and side kick come along and wanna arrest him and the guy is protesting as hes done nothing wrong then bang, they jump on him....

ive seen that with my own eyes, ive even seen a copper kick someone in the b0llocks, ok the guy was pi$$ed and gobbing off and swang for the copper, BUT, it still does not give them the right to hit someone, after all, they are there to enforce the law, NOT BREAK IT!

as you might of guessed, i have little respect for police because of what they stand for now, there not coppers anymore, there hands have been tied to much, powers taken away, and new duties given which mostly are motor offences which make money for the goverment. (even you have to admit it seems that way)
you and other will dis-agree, but there my thoughts and im entilted to them, as you are yours, we just dont agree.
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Re: Police Officers!

Postby abbasar2000 on Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:13 am

Hes abusing the power of the tazer for one, he wasnt resisting arrest for s**t, ive watched no end of these cops programs on TV, they seem to act like armed response officers to me, to be honest if i was a bystander id have ran up and kicked one of those officers in the face,but thats me, i got dragged out my car by armed police because my ex girlfriend decided to phone the police and tell them i had a shotgun in the car, when the car rolled forward i lent in and pulled the handbrake back up only to be hit over the head with the feds gun he was waving in my face, then i got dragged out the car and jumped on, hit my head off the floor and gave me a black eye and cut face... ive never had any respect for them, they abuse there powers, there is the odd good one about, but i usually give as good as i get they waste my time ill waste theirs.. simple really... :rolleyes:
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Re: Police Officers!

Postby Ollie on Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:58 am

Suspect of what? What happened before that start of the video? Clearly the police didn't just walk up and find him lying on the floor. There's obviously been some events leading up to the point where he's lying on the floor with a tazer stuck in him and still managing to fight off a copper who's trying to cuff him.

Without knowing what he's done or any of the preceding events it's all just pointless speculation.

Incidentally, it looks to me like the copper's hitting him in the shoulder and taser barbs are in his leg.
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Re: Police Officers!

Postby jayrs on Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:57 am

this is true, we dont know whats happened before the video, but as for doing nothing, ive seen plenty coppers pick on people at kick out time of a pub or club for no reason what so ever, so really, no one will ever know, but the fact he had the tazer in him already would say he maybe done something, maybe told the coppers to fcuk off and leave him alone as he was trying to go him or something, but thats not the point here, its how the coppers handled it, and him.

if the guy was punched in the sholder, or the head, it makes no different, if the law states i cannot hit someone as its ABH or GBH, why should they be able to do it and break the law and get away with it, just becuase there trying to arrest someone.
4 coppers, and they still needed to tazer him and hit him, sorry over kill IMO

im all for police having more powers, i've said for years now our police need to carry guns like the yanks and have the power to use them without being charged and being sacked and all that crap, BUT, when you see things like this, you understand why a lot of people say they shouldnt have guns and more powers, as they dunno how to handle such powers.
i know that sounds like ive gone against what ive said, and in a way i guess it does, but right now the police dont have these powers, so i see it as abusing what powers they have, if they want to treat people like that, then give them the power to do it, and then fear and respect for the law will return, untill such time, the pussy state police force should follow the laws as layed down, i.e, enforce the law, dont break it
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Re: Police Officers!

Postby slaney21 on Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:40 am

from what i read elsewhere it was apparent that the chap on the ground assaulted one of the coppers before the chap with the camera decided to film when he did. I agree on the copper being a bit forceful when punching the chap and i think that shows when a whole crowd gathers straight after he has laid into him. It did make me laugh when the copper was going for it with the tazer but the bloke on the floor was so out of it he barely flinched

i expect they were fed up that particular evening with having to deal with yet another pissed up statistic and wasting police time :lol:
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Re: Police Officers!

Postby Ollie on Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:21 pm

slaney21 :It did make me laugh when the copper was going for it with the tazer but the bloke on the floor was so out of it he barely flinched

If your addrenalin level is high enough the taser has little effect. It's only a low current electric shock afterall. Which is probably why they gave up on it and resorted to hitting him.

It's impossible to know without the full details, but the fact that after three hits with the taser it still takes 4 coppers to hold him down would suggest he may have been taking steroids. I'm not saying he was, but that would be the assumption they'd have to make at the time.


As I said though, it's impossible to know what led to that situation so it's impossible to judge whether the force used was reasonably or not. The video has been taken completely out of context and, judging by the guy's voice, deliberately so with the sole intent of sticking it on youTube to show up the coppers.
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Re: Police Officers!

Postby Kittie on Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:21 pm

I'm sure he's a lovely innocent bloke who goes to church every sunday and helps old ladies across the road and rescues drowning puppies in his spare time and really didn't deserve a slapping :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Re: Police Officers!

Postby singlecharge on Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:48 pm

I agree the police do need to be forcefull. You always get kids/ch@vs thinking they ten men, cause police cant do anything. But if the police where allowed to kick to shades of sh!t into them then i dont think they be as gobby. I have always said police should carry guns like in the US. Saying this there always is room for mistake and police abusing there powers. Hard to comment on the situation as dont know what happened before.
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Re: Police Officers!

Postby sk8xtrm on Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:58 pm

I personally hate the police well not all police just motor after previous events with them! i had a copper slow down to 45 in a 50mph zone then pull me over saying i over took him at speed!!! now that takes the piss!!! but i have friends in the force and had nice enough police pull me over previously...on just to look over the car and then chat to me about old fords :) that was fun.lol but its the few over nuts ones that give them all a bad name. you see people in modified mk3 fiestas with m3 mirrors and ripspeed everywhere driving like tugger! Then there's us lot who are obsessed by our cars and try so hard to make sure they are maintained to best standards we can...but sadly unless someone knows what they are on about sometimes categorise us all together...or if they have any background on it?

which is what confused me about this video!!!!! we don't know any background on this situation... what if he is a peado or rapist...none of us know...or not being funny if he was...who of any of you wouldn't be shy to try give him a few?????????

Honestly tho as we don't have background in the situation...i would simply say its a drunk night out....and from the video it looks to me like hes a strong looking guy and putting force on him to move his arm...punching is to the top on the arm...which even kids know causes a dead arm...therefore making it weaker...you can see the guy swinging his back into his body so he cant be put in cuffs!

Personally i think the video is worthless as there is no background on it!!!!!! if it showed the very start i may be wrong or right on the money!!!

But then again I PERSONALLY think its just being used to give the police a bad name (probably explaining why the start has been cut off) and you will always get that...who in school followed all of the rules??? obeyed every teachers demand...i wasn't a little tw@ but i certainly didn't...people will never like authority and thats a way of life regardless what anyone says and an excuse to show that up will not be missed!

IF someone can find out what happened at the start of the video then you never know we prob will all agree on the situation...but at this point we are all speculating!
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Re: Police Officers!

Postby dontpannic on Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:51 pm

Rhinopower :
Glad someone agrees with me, you don't get in that situation for no reason, well done to the coppers! I hope this video helps show the police aren't to be messed with, i'm sure the crowd of people watching in the video think twice before kicking off now.


Make that two people who agree. I cannot stand people who do stupid things and expect to get away with it - all of a sudden the police are the bad guys because they're doing their job.

Haven't seen the video, don't intend to, purely for the fact that police brutality is something usually made up by people trying to get a quick buck out of the media.

Best example I've seen is with the Sun and one of the stupid pissing G20 protester girls. She came on this interview (videoed) complaining how the police told her to move, she swore and verbally assaulted the police officer, then he slapped her out of the way. She came onto this interview with a fake make-up red mark on her right cheek and emphasising how the police were brutal. What she didn't anticipate, of course, is that the police officer swiped her on the LEFT side of her face. fudgekin cow was faking.

Police brutality during the G20 summit pissed me off too - a 2000 strong crowd of lazy, environment-hugging, benefit scrounging, time wasting tugger/wankesses, against a group of 50-60 police officers. I mean what the fcuk are they supposed to do?

If I were in charge I'd let the police do what they used to do, stop the government interfering in our daily business and stop turning the UK population into a population of health and safety "nambie-pambies". Its all gone to s**t to be honest and at the end of the day, due to this government banning things that shouldn't be banned, gangs of yobs and chives DO rule the streets! Why can't they see it?!

Traffic officers do not pull people over and arrest them for doing nothing wrong - if you speed/drive like a gammon slipper/cause an accident, you deserve to be spoken to and deserve to have the correct punishment handed to you - remember, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

If you're silly enough to get caught driving like a pillock then the police are well within their rights to sort you out.

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Re: Police Officers!

Postby curly on Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:38 am

if a copper hit me, ied floor the fucker, then file a gbh case against him

" he came with in my personal zone your honer" and your off the hook,
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Re: Police Officers!

Postby luke_mk3_st on Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:08 am

i cant actually belive anyone agrees with this... ye i agree that the guy was probably acting like a c*nt and deserved to be nicked, and also deserved to be tasered.
but i tell you now, iv been tasered and wen it was done the last thing i could do after was listen to instructions about puttin my hands out!!!!! they should of picked him in and put him in the van. but to then taser someone again and again and punch them... if agree with that then theres something wrong with you. thats just as bad as kicking someone wile there down!!!!
so i agree with the 1st taser cus he was risisting but after that they wasnt doing there job, they was abusing it.
best way to put it imagine if that was your kid in that video!!
and also saying that will make people around realise not to mess with the police.. not at all, all it does is makes people angry could you not here the guy at the end.
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Re: Police Officers!

Postby tompeteRS on Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:14 am

I've been involved in incidents whilst working where the Police have used force and punched people, including one very high profile incident recently (again if you'd seen the build up you'd understand why it is often justifiable - giving someone a dead arm is an accepted technique to get one to drop or let go of something). In both cases the offenders deserved what they got, if your not going to let the Police police what sort of society would we end up with?! If your offending - tough, rough justice is far more effective anyway!

In most cases there are actions are perfectly justifiable although occasionally they do use force when it isn't actually needed and often create or make situations worse! I've seen a copper push an old lady over then swear and threaten people with arrest when it subsequently kicked off!
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Re: Police Officers!

Postby luke_mk3_st on Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:49 pm

ye i agree, i dont want people to get the wrong idea of what im saying... i complety agree with the taser. i agree with hitting. i think if somebody is being that bad the police officer should beable to smash there teeth out... but the point im getting to is there is a point when you stop. as in ye taser the guy, ok maybe taser him again but to punch and taser wile the guy is down. they should beable to move the guys arms. and if they cant they should go the gym!!!!
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