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[knuckles]

Because it needs more power

bolt a T3 to it then

[jonyb4]

lol knuckles.

after seing your sig around the forums, ive never really thought much of the car, but bugger me its cracking, really love it mate, bet you give them chives a scare eh? i love the engine rebuild part some real expertise went into that

well done on that impressive 0-60 time too

seing all this makes me want to put a zetec in my mk4, but theyre so hard to get in to a mk4

keep up the great work mate

[dontpannic]

seing all this makes me want to put a zetec in my mk4, but theyre so hard to get in to a mk4

Wha? The Zetec is the easiest conversion for the MK4, and its not as though you dont have much choice! The 1.25, 1.4, 1.6 and 1.7 bolt straight in

[trecoll]

True nick. But they're not "real" zetec's according to jony

[dontpannic]

A zetec is a zetec at the end of the day...

[Excursion]

A zetec is a zetec at the end of the day...

Not with good ol' Ford it's not

Several models of car and several models of engine.

[filtra]

A zetec is a zetec at the end of the day...

Not with good ol' Ford it's not

Several models of car and several models of engine.

Yeah, was going to say, Zetec is just a brand as the Duratec is. IIRC Both engine's are same as the Mazda enginered ones whereas in the mk4's 5's Pumas are Yamaha Zetecs.

[jonyb4]

yep exsactly my point, the 1.25 etc is in the Sigma family, but not the 1.6/1.8/2.0 is a zeta family, hence theyre real zetecs not just a badge atop the engine

what i meant nick was them zetecs aint as easy to bolt in

[Smo]

Really you want to look at fitting a Duratec or something similar to your MK4 - A nice, modern and lightweight engine compared to what really is an old heavy engine in mine Have you seen AdamB's MK4?

I'm happy with what I've acheived with mine, however if I'm honest, it's not how I want it to be... It's not pleasent to drive at all anymore, not unless you're having some fun around country lanes or have a nice bit of road to open it up on But at the moment I still need to keep it as an everyday car so the plan is to do something about the way it drives and make it enjoyable again ...

... Oh, while also still making it faster

[hb69]

Why still an every day car? Something happened to the silver one?

[jonyb4]

is adamb the one with the red 1.8 mk4? think iave asked him about it before lol

i know hat you mean abotut he feel, mines fine around town, can be nippy too in third, but on a motorway yukky are they 2i seats or si?

[Smo]

Henry, what I mean is, I use it on the road and often use it everyday, so I need it to be nice to drive. See below why

is adamb the one with the red 1.8 mk4? think iave asked him about it before lol

i know hat you mean abotut he feel, mines fine around town, can be nippy too in third, but on a motorway yukky are they 2i seats or si?

Red 2.0 Duratec on throttle bodies - or at least I believe that's what it is... May be I'm wrong?

The problem with mine is, I've raised the compression ratio a bit, around 11:1, and even though it doesn't sound a lot, it has made a nice difference - it's very responsive now and definitely a small improvement in power. An irritating side effect of this is that the engine always feels very much on edge now, kinda jerky if you're not that extra bit gentle with it when starting to accelerate or backing off which can make it bit tiring when driving in traffic I can *just about* live with it at the moment, but as I want a lot more power out of it, it's only going to get worse as soon as I start adding throttle bodies, lumpier cams, etc... all things I really hadn't considered originally. It would be OK if I was going to solely as a track car or weekend fun car, but at the moment that won't be anytime soon!

I can now see why people talk about the driveability of high compression NA cars, especially when they're running 13:1+. To think, mine's no where near that!

[fiend]

Henry, what I mean is, I use it on the road and often use it everyday, so I need it to be nice to drive. See below why

is adamb the one with the red 1.8 mk4? think iave asked him about it before lol

i know hat you mean abotut he feel, mines fine around town, can be nippy too in third, but on a motorway yukky are they 2i seats or si?

Red 2.0 Duratec on throttle bodies - or at least I believe that's what it is... May be I'm wrong?

The problem with mine is, I've raised the compression ratio a bit, around 11:1, and even though it doesn't sound a lot, it has made a nice difference - it's very responsive now and definitely a small improvement in power. An irritating side effect of this is that the engine always feels very much on edge now, kinda jerky if you're not that extra bit gentle with it when starting to accelerate or backing off which can make it bit tiring when driving in traffic I can *just about* live with it at the moment, but as I want a lot more power out of it, it's only going to get worse as soon as I start adding throttle bodies, lumpier cams, etc... all things I really hadn't considered originally. It would be OK if I was going to solely as a track car or weekend fun car, but at the moment that won't be anytime soon!

I can now see why people talk about the driveability of high compression NA cars, especially when they're running 13:1+. To think, mine's no where near that!

Easy way to fix that problem, lower the compression and go turbbbbbbbooooooooooooooo.

[trecoll]

is adamb the one with the red 1.8 mk4? think iave asked him about it before lol

i know hat you mean abotut he feel, mines fine around town, can be nippy too in third, but on a motorway yukky are they 2i seats or si?

Red 2.0 Duratec on throttle bodies - or at least I believe that's what it is... May be I'm wrong?

that is correct. Fully stripped and flippin quick too!

[jonyb4]

lol i dont doubt that

[fiend]

Even easier solution, keep the current compression ratio and supercharge it!

[rstirl]

great engine rebuild
and write up
and photos
and 0-60 times
and stealth fiesta!

[jonyb4]

lol

[Excursion]

I can now see why people talk about the driveability of high compression NA cars, especially when they're running 13:1+. To think, mine's no where near that!

High quality management and a good map will improve the driveability for you.

[Smo]

I can now see why people talk about the driveability of high compression NA cars, especially when they're running 13:1+. To think, mine's no where near that!

High quality management and a good map will improve the driveability for you.

Something I probably won't achieve with an ECU such as MegaSquirt, I take it then?

[jonyb4]

sorry to be a noob, but what exsactly is megasquirt?

[hb69]

sorry to be a noob, but what exsactly is megasquirt?

Its an engine management system that you build yourself. You can add all kinds of things to it like launch control, anti lag etc.

Search megasquirt on google or ebay, should shed a bit more light on it.

[jonyb4]

cheers mate, will do

[Sphinx]

Put "Mega Squirt" into Google image search, that should give you an idea

[jonyb4]

lol nope, still dont quiet get it bunch of wiring diagrams

[Excursion]

I can now see why people talk about the driveability of high compression NA cars, especially when they're running 13:1+. To think, mine's no where near that!

High quality management and a good map will improve the driveability for you.

Something I probably won't achieve with an ECU such as MegaSquirt, I take it then?

No

[Sphinx]

lol nope, still dont quiet get it bunch of wiring diagrams

I didn't get wiring diagrams come up when I put that in.
Turn your 'safe search' off

[jonyb4]

hahaah, you nutter

[~nomad~]

Looking good mate, awesome 0-60 time, i hope ours comes close! Someone needs to develop a supercharger kit for the zetec, other than the uber expensive ones. Must be a way of home brewing a mini one on or something lol

[Ratspeed]

Put "Mega Squirt" into Google image search, that should give you an idea

Google video works well too

[Smo]

Filthy lot!

And cheers, Dave I'm sure your 2.0 will manage it OK

Yeah, a supercharger kit would be lovely, and it is something I looked at many times for mine, ideally using a Rotrex job, but trying to find one for sensible money just wasn't happening Using an Eaton (e.g. the Mini one like you mentioned) is probably the most cost-effective way to do it, however the fabrication work required is obviously a lot more! Find a second hand Rotrex setup though (charger, filter, oil cooler, etc.) and make a good solid bracket up to mount it, and you're almost there

[jonyb4]

i just want a zetec lol

[~nomad~]

Filthy lot!

And cheers, Dave I'm sure your 2.0 will manage it OK

Yeah, a supercharger kit would be lovely, and it is something I looked at many times for mine, ideally using a Rotrex job, but trying to find one for sensible money just wasn't happening Using an Eaton (e.g. the Mini one like you mentioned) is probably the most cost-effective way to do it, however the fabrication work required is obviously a lot more! Find a second hand Rotrex setup though (charger, filter, oil cooler, etc.) and make a good solid bracket up to mount it, and you're almost there

i am a bit of a nob when it comes to chargers, what would a rotrex come on normally?

[Smo]

Sorry Dave, I never replied to you! Erm, you probably have an answer now, but I don't know whether Rotrex chargers were ever/are a standard fit on any production vehicle, but generally they're sold as aftermarket items/kits. Perfect for a Zetec I reckon, though

Update - Sort of.

Well, it's been a while since I updated this...

I've not actually done anything to it except kill another gearbox, but that's to be expected

Oh, and someone ran into the back of me just before Christmas smashing the bumper, pushing the O/S rear light panel in and creasing the boot floor - not what I wanted! But the road was an ice rink at the time, and I could do nothing except watch a Toyota Avensis slowly slide straight into the back of me My neck and back was a bit stiff the next day But nothing serious I'd never sworn as rudely as I did in front of my dad though at the point I got out of the car to look at the damage I do have some photos, but to be honest, they're not necessary! Just reminds me how much more is added to the list of things I need to do to the car now. All I've done is push the light panel back out, but I've left the rest of the damage as is - may well even stay like that... At least it can't get any worse

So yeah, sod the body work at the moment. Now the weather is changing for the better, I shall now persue my aim of making the car quicker

More to come!

[jonyb4]

woo an update, this is my favortie car on here, its my inspiration for my ownc ar (almost mainly the reaso i choose the 1800 over a 2.0 )

glad you didnt give up on her like most would have, get the sledge and a block of wood out mate knock her straight

whats on your mind performance wise?

ill be looking for tips for my own

think ill have a little re read through this, hope you sorted them pics out