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Re: Popular Plus - 07/09/11 - Page 14 - Mondeo M/C and Servo

Postby Excursion on Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:30 pm

Smo :As far as I'm aware, they're all 25.4mm. But this also has 25.40 stamped on the side if I remember rightly! But yeah, I wanted a non-ABS version, although I think I could probably have cleared the airbox better and more neatly had I used an ABS version! :lol: Oh if only for hindsight...


I'm pretty sure that some are 23. I know the Mk3 are all 25 or so but I could be wrong. You're such a little scamp anyway.
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Postby Excursion on Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:31 pm

PS Yeah a total Bic™ to bleed. You're supposed to "bench bleed" the MC but I found that to be a total waste of time, the only thing that got it 100% was a pressure bleeding kit. Totally awesome tool.
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Re: Popular Plus - 07/09/11 - Page 14 - Mondeo M/C and Servo

Postby Smo on Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:57 pm

Excursion :You're such a little scamp anyway.

You come out with the kindest things :D

I was looking through various books and catalogues at work to see what was what prior to finding an MC, and everything seemed to be the same size wise. But we only deal with pattern parts, so it's quite possible that what we can get isn't the be all and end all!

I think we did well in the end with the bleeding, I'm confident that we weren't going to get a better pedal than we did, it would just have been nicer to have had the pedal a little higher as with the original servo, but obviously that's down to the Mondeo servo. I guess it could be modified, but then it's probably not worth the hassle. Given that I haven't actually driven it properly yet, I'm not really in a position to knock it yet :lol:
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Re: Popular Plus - 07/09/11 - Page 14 - Mondeo M/C and Servo

Postby knuckles on Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:24 am

i will post out a proper blanking cap for you tomorro :)
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Re: Popular Plus - 07/09/11 - Page 14 - Mondeo M/C and Servo

Postby DanFraser on Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:08 pm

Smo :
Excursion :You're such a little scamp anyway.

I think we did well in the end with the bleeding, I'm confident that we weren't going to get a better pedal than we did, it would just have been nicer to have had the pedal a little higher as with the original servo, but obviously that's down to the Mondeo servo. I guess it could be modified, but then it's probably not worth the hassle.


Do what I did. Get some washers. Get down and looking at the brake pedal, take off the retaining clip off the rod through the pedal, move the rod out, take the white plastic thing off and add as many washers as required, assembly is the reversal of removal. I had a very low positioned pedal after doing the same thing and easily bought the pedal back up in line with the others.
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Re: Popular Plus - 07/09/11 - Page 14 - Mondeo M/C and Servo

Postby Smo on Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:57 pm

Dan, I had a look at this at the time and wondered the same thing! I wasn't sure if it was a clever idea or not, but I think you could be right. I guess it only needs 2 or 3 decent ones at the most :)

Since fitting it, my brake pedal is actually now in line with the accelerator as opposed to being above it, which I'm not sure is a bad thing anyway? It certainly doesn't feel too bad from having only driven it up the road and back, and with the decrease in travel over the old 1.1 cylinder, it certainly doesn't come anywhere near the floor, so I'll take it out for a proper drive first and see how I feel! It'll be nice to get some proper use out of the bloody car :lol:
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Re: Popular Plus - 07/09/11 - Page 14 - Mondeo M/C and Servo

Postby DanFraser on Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:20 pm

Smo :Since fitting it, my brake pedal is actually now in line with the accelerator as opposed to being above it, which I'm not sure is a bad thing anyway?


I personally think it's fine with level pedals. Or that may be my weird OCD that says it should be like that.
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Re: Popular Plus - 07/09/11 - Page 14 - Mondeo M/C and Servo

Postby dontpannic on Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:43 pm

Its only designed that the brake is higher normally in case you inadvertantly hit both pedals you're more likely to hit the brake first rather than the accelerator first.
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Re: Popular Plus - 07/09/11 - Page 14 - Mondeo M/C and Servo

Postby Excursion on Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:39 am

Better for heel and toe :)
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Re: Popular Plus - 07/09/11 - Page 14 - Mondeo M/C and Servo

Postby Smo on Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:15 pm

Well I've got my new box to go in. Definitely done a few miles by the looks of it, but I can move between gears quite easily by hand, so hopefully it's all good!

Will take the old box off tomorrow and probably fit the new one on Tuesday when there's some extra hands about :lol:
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Re: Popular Plus - 07/09/11 - Page 14 - Mondeo M/C and Servo

Postby P-reg-Turbo on Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:44 pm

seeing you have used a mk2 mondeo m/c and servo, can a mk1 one been used aswell??
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Re: Popular Plus - 07/09/11 - Page 14 - Mondeo M/C and Servo

Postby Smo on Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:54 pm

I think, generally, that's what people use, however I don't think there's actually any difference really.
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Re: Popular Plus - 07/09/11 - Page 14 - Mondeo M/C and Servo

Postby DanFraser on Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:56 pm

P-reg-Turbo :seeing you have used a mk2 mondeo m/c and servo, can a mk1 one been used aswell??


I used a MK1 Mondeo Servo and Master Cylinder as they're more likely to have the blocked off clutch feed and no ABS. Otherwise I believe they're the same.
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Re: Popular Plus - 07/09/11 - Page 14 - Mondeo M/C and Servo

Postby P-reg-Turbo on Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:19 pm

DanFraser :
P-reg-Turbo :seeing you have used a mk2 mondeo m/c and servo, can a mk1 one been used aswell??


I used a MK1 Mondeo Servo and Master Cylinder as they're more likely to have the blocked off clutch feed and no ABS. Otherwise I believe they're the same.



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Re: Popular Plus - 07/09/11 - Page 14 - Mondeo M/C and Servo

Postby fiestamodder123 on Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:09 pm

hey simon, hows life buddy :)

i honestly cannot beleive you still have this after all the time...hope its going well for you man ...G :D
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Re: Popular Plus - 07/09/11 - Page 14 - Mondeo M/C and Servo

Postby Smo on Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:52 pm

Haha, hello you! I'm alright ta, how you doing? To think, it was after your post and chatting to you a bit on MSN (if I remember rightly!) I thought I better do this post back in 2006!! :D
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Postby fiestamodder123 on Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:56 am

Smo :Haha, hello you! I'm alright ta, how you doing? To think, it was after your post and chatting to you a bit on MSN (if I remember rightly!) I thought I better do this post back in 2006!! :D

...good to see its still on the go, especially with how rot prone mk3s are :wink:
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Re: Popular Plus - 07/09/11 - Page 14 - Mondeo M/C and Servo

Postby AW3K on Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:30 pm

hi smo i used the mondy mc on mine 2 years ago and it passed mot fine with pedal being same height,

i was lucky i found a mk1 with cable clutch and no abs

http://www.fiestaguides.co.uk/content/m ... inder.html

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Popular Plus - 10/12/11 - Page 15 - Killed some things...

Postby Smo on Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:58 pm

Little update!

Back in October, I did my first ever track day... I broke it :D

Went to Lydden Hill with a few people, was very cold, but good fun :) Had a couple of sessions as a passenger in Mark's (MB7201) LX which was brilliant - he knows how to drive!

Erm, so what I broke:

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I'd only done 750 miles on it :lol:

Replaced that a couple of weeks ago, and then exactly one week later I broke it again...

Here's a clue:



You'll notice how the drive shaft is moving, but not quite how it should be. It may be it has something to do with this:

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Whoops! Oh, and these fell out too:

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And amazingly, I managed to drive it home! It was only today that my dad told me he tried to move it and it apparenly went bang, so I think he managed to finish the job off properly for me :lol:

So yeah, need a new driveshaft now :) I can do just the joint, but my feeling is that I should really change them for some XR/RS ones with the tripod, unless anyone thinks otherwise? I also think my 1.1 ones have done well with 5 years of hard abuse :D
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Re: Popular Plus - 10/12/11 - Page 15 - Killed some things...

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:42 pm

just read up from like july or so, good work with the linkage, alot of effort required there!

you dont get much luck in transmission department do you?

you sure you dont rag it everywhere? :P


was funny watching that buggered cv joint, if your having jip with the mondeo cylinder change it for a mk5 escort one ;) all cable clutches on them
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Re: Popular Plus - 10/12/11 - Page 15 - Killed some things...

Postby Smo on Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:14 pm

I've not got any problems with the Mondeo setup, I think I was just unsure about the pedal height, but that was it :) Everything else is fine about it! I actually have a modified Escort MC/servo which I bought about 2 years ago, but I liked the idea of the Mondeo one for not having to bend the pipes so much :lol:

It doesn't get ragged everywhere, but I use it hard whenever I get the opportunity :D I was close to stripping it or bunging it on a farm somewhere when it went bang last Sunday, but now I know it's just the driveshaft, I'll have some more fun with it first!
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Re: Popular Plus - 10/12/11 - Page 15 - Killed some things...

Postby russ-RST on Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:29 pm

ThE clutch and shaft is shocking ! Hope those RS ones sort you out buddy :) boo don't take it off the road I love this car! So much personality to it, get it fixed and sort the rust now your on my old wages ;) lol need to see this around more often there aren't enough nice mk3s around our way :( hope this gearbox lasts a little longer for you mate :) keep the progress coming :)
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Postby MB7201 on Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:43 am

You really aren't having much luck recently :lol: I'm surprised you managed to actually drive it with the clutch like that aswell. Hows the gearbox doing now?
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Postby Smo on Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:42 am

Well I thought I might have done some damage to the box on the track day too, but after replacing the clutch, it still feels fine! The only thing is, reverse is very noisy and I'm not sure why? But again, I bought the box cheap, so I don't expect it to last forever :lol: I'll buy a decent box one day :)

Cheers for the shafts, Russ! I think once I've got it running again I'll be happy. I definitely need to do something about the rust after the winter!
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Re: Popular Plus - 10/12/11 - Page 15 - Killed some things...

Postby Excursion on Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:13 am

Ouch. Are they HCS shafts and CVs?
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Postby Smo on Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:08 pm

Yeah, they're the original 1.1 shafts; I never expected them to last as well as they did!
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Postby Excursion on Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:38 pm

Smo :Yeah, they're the original 1.1 shafts; I never expected them to last as well as they did!


lol. Probably a good time to fit a later Zetec clutch, too :D
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Postby Smo on Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:44 pm

Well I'm running an iB5 clutch from a MK6 16v Escort because obviously you need the right release bearing for the box, and then the right cover plate for the release bearing... Before I ran the iB5 boxes, I was using an RS1800 clutch and had no problems. It's only the iB5 clutches that have been a problem, but I think I've just been unlucky! Next time I'll definitely go uprated.
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Postby Excursion on Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:49 pm

Smo :Well I'm running an iB5 clutch from a MK6 16v Escort because obviously you need the right release bearing for the box, and then the right cover plate for the release bearing... Before I ran the iB5 boxes, I was using an RS1800 clutch and had no problems. It's only the iB5 clutches that have been a problem, but I think I've just been unlucky! Next time I'll definitely go uprated.


I mixed and matched, it doesn't matter :) The Mk3.5 RS1800 clutch will do you, it's low lift and has the full-width friction surface. You have the thinner one there.
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Postby Smo on Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:59 pm

I'm running the 220mm iB5 clutch :)
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Postby Excursion on Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:25 pm

Smo :I'm running the 220mm iB5 clutch :)


It's not the outside diameter that changes, it's the centre point to the start of the friction material.
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Postby Smo on Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:29 pm

Yeah, I realised after I posted what you meant :oops: :lol: I thought my RS1800 one was the same, but I'll have to check it out when I can dig it out. I think I'll run this one until it dies and then replace it with something decent. It was huge fun driving it again for the one week I did :lol:
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Postby Smo on Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:39 pm

I have no answer to that...
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Postby Excursion on Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:13 pm

massive clutch :lol: :lol:
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