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by **Ghia Boyo** on Wed Jul 30, 2003 11:04 am

Ive noticed that my 1.6 16v ghia (same engine as Si etc...) is very much down on power. Doh.! Normally there is a noticable increase in acceleration between 40 and 50mph in 2nd gear, and 60 to 70mph in 3rd. This has now dissappeared, but returns one the car has been running for around 5-10 miles or so (engine heats up? duno..). Im certain this was not the case before, and when this loss occurs, my m8's 1.2 16v clio is near on exactly the same from 0-80mph, after which he overtakes me!!!!(this cant happen!) Only thing ive done recently is top up the oil, nothing special. Driving wise, i havent been doing any long journeys recently, i dont know if this would have an effect, but its worth a mention. N e ideas peeps?! Cheers.

by **Ghia Boyo** on Wed Jul 30, 2003 6:49 pm

There are loads of ya with a Si 16v so hurry up and help me! lol

by **acstua** on Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:49 pm

my car seems s**t when its cold, takes a few mins running and then its fine

just usin a bit too much oil still E:

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrG33kman · by **zetec_si** on Wed Jul 30, 2003 10:11 pm

Mine is more powerfull on startup for some reason, lot more pokey and responsice :-?

Mines never done that but I could make some guesses like malfunctioning sensors.

by **acstua** on Wed Jul 30, 2003 10:21 pm

mine seems alot better at night, cooler air and that i spose

by **snake** on Wed Jul 30, 2003 10:43 pm

could be nething, sensor down, or poss sticky valves, any misfirin when cold? incorrect oil grade?

by **Nick 2i** on Wed Jul 30, 2003 11:12 pm

a few people are saying there car is no good when its cold, this isnt the best time to be caning it! the oil pressure/temp is like fcuk all and wont be protecting the engine very well! make sure you car is warmed up to its normal running temp before driving it hard!

by **acstua** on Wed Jul 30, 2003 11:21 pm

aye never rag yer car tbh, specially when its cold, i try me best not too, but been told me engine needs a rebuild anyhow :E

using oil and [ERRR] not... on warrenty tho so they will do it free.
just gotta drive a Proton GL Si courtsey car , gawd the shame of it all :aaah:

by **Nick 2i** on Wed Jul 30, 2003 11:32 pm

it needs a rebuild :oooh:

how many miles is your car on?! [ERRR] zetecs are pretty strong engines so it must have had quite a hard life for it to need to be rebuilt!

by **acstua** on Wed Jul 30, 2003 11:38 pm

91k atm, supposely some 40yr women drivin it.

they tried a few things to stop the oil going.
its wierd tho i used nearly 1/4 -> 1/2 a thing of oil on way to cambs, 1hr40min travel down motorway. on way there and back.

went again month l8r, did same thing, but use non on way back...

see some smoke when workin engine hard, and uses oil still whilst driving around.
only did 28 miles and can alreaedy see the gap from where it was at max....

they tried engine flush n stuff, now they keep going on about engine rebuild ......
;(

used nearly a full dipstick lvl of oil in 400miles

by **Nick 2i** on Wed Jul 30, 2003 11:43 pm

sounds S*hit mate

good your getting a full rebuild for nothing though

by **acstua** on Thu Jul 31, 2003 12:25 am

specially as i intend to sell it in 6months :E prob p/x it with same garage too :lol:

by **xr2i-carl** on Thu Jul 31, 2003 12:48 am

matey is rite raggin wen cold weares em out real bad i dont take mine above 2500 untill its warm also i no why its smokin at 90k its cuz old women do short jurney liek half mile! wen u start engine from cold they rev higher ie 1400-1500RPM wen they warm they drop to 900RPM so if u turn ure engine off ie after short jurney wen engine is cold and revin at 1500 there is to much petrol and it has no where 2 go part from drain down to the sump diluting ure lovely oil makin it not the rite viscosity so therefore wear ure engine tremedouly! wen u buy a car take dipstick out smell oil if smelss ptrol dont buy it etc hope i have helped :devil:

by **Johnny_16v** on Thu Jul 31, 2003 4:21 pm

my Si seems to pull a bit better between 4 1/2 5 1/2 k!!!
pulls away slow then really rips!!!
only take it to bout 5 1/2 max but it can get 45mph in 1st

if i really wanna push it!!! (only ever done that once and never again!!!)
and NEVER when cold!!!
john

by **Nick 2i** on Thu Jul 31, 2003 5:02 pm

xr2i-carl :matey is rite raggin wen cold weares em out real bad i dont take mine above 2500 untill its warm also i no why its smokin at 90k its cuz old women do short jurney liek half mile! wen u start engine from cold they rev higher ie 1400-1500RPM wen they warm they drop to 900RPM so if u turn ure engine off ie after short jurney wen engine is cold and revin at 1500 there is to much petrol and it has no where 2 go part from drain down to the sump diluting ure lovely oil makin it not the rite viscosity so therefore wear ure engine tremedouly! wen u buy a car take dipstick out smell oil if smelss ptrol dont buy it etc hope i have helped

yep hes right

, thats why regular oil changes are the key for keeping your engine going for as long as possible :wink:

by **acstua** on Thu Jul 31, 2003 5:55 pm

The garage did a full service for me b4 i picked the car up. and have since done complete engine flush, so changed the oil again ;|
seems damage already been done and all that ;(

and yus was some 40yr women who had car b4 me, garage remeber her sellin it.
and they said same thing to me about stupid women prob driving car at like 30mph in 5th , no revs etc.
i get in and car has a shock :rolleyes:

as for power band, aye i find mines about 4k-5k and aint it fun

shame the power band is so high, but then it roars nice i spose

aye and also my engine idles when warm at 900rpm

when cold its about 1100rpm

anyhow heres hoping ;o
just means i gotta drive the car slow n stuff when engine rebuilt ;\ for aggggges

by **Ghia Boyo** on Thu Jul 31, 2003 7:33 pm

ok.... so im guessing it needs an oil change.... it was last changed in october during a service. I was wondering about spark plugs also? I cant see any record of them being changed recently, but i have been told they last some time?? Im gona give my car a decent 200+ mile round trip fairly soon so that [ERRR] help iron out n e problems, since i left college, i rarely do more then 5 miles on a trip!!! doh. THe oil i put in the btw was from my parents honda, fully synthetic don't know if thats a problem n e one?

by **xr2i-carl** on Thu Jul 31, 2003 7:45 pm

ure havin a giraffe int u? u put old engine oil out of another engine ure car? wots point of changin it ? crazy :rolleyes:

by **Ghia Boyo** on Thu Jul 31, 2003 7:55 pm

No no no! its fresh oil, its just left over from a service from their cars........ not old stuff!!

by **xr2i-carl** on Thu Jul 31, 2003 11:35 pm

mate i wunt bother wastin money on oil n filter n plugs if its already nackerd!! jus wait till u get new lump from ford and service it every 3k oil filter and plugs every 10k b fine then! on new engine! but why put fresh oil in agin if its burns it in like 400-500 miles waste money int it

by **acstua** on Fri Aug 01, 2003 12:12 am

if u mean me, the garage gave me oil for free ;p

ive still got some magnatec ready for when they cure the problem tho

by **LeeB** on Fri Aug 01, 2003 8:54 pm

You guys do know that those 16v engines require a different grade of oil to that specified in the handbook? (to prevent the sticky valves problem) IIRC it's 5w-30,so I always put the Ford stuff in as that was the only type I could find in that grade :bonkers:

lee

by **Ghia Boyo** on Fri Aug 01, 2003 11:01 pm

Dodgy handbook hey.......

Ive been for a longer run 2nite in the car, driving around and its deffinitely the longer its been running, the better the acceleration, im just sure it never used to have such a big effect on it. Im guessing its to do with engine temperature. It seems to be ok about a third of the up into "normal".

by **acstua** on Sat Aug 02, 2003 12:10 am

aye ive been using 5w 30

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