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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb (updated 17/12/10)

Postby RS rob on Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:48 pm

everything i want, always ends up in a big road trip
ian howell's is about 500miles away and i've been up there 3 times :lol:
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb (updated 17/12/10)

Postby Excursion on Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:48 am

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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb (updated 17/12/10)

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:03 am

RS rob :everything i want, always ends up in a big road trip
ian howell's is about 500miles away and i've been up there 3 times :lol:



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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb (updated 17/12/10)

Postby Excursion on Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:33 pm

Mate, I can get the rest of the gearbox parts sent over between Christmas and NYE. There are pretty big delays in the courier network right now, so parts possibly won't turn up until the end of Jan.
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb (updated 17/12/10)

Postby jonyb4 on Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:57 am

its a pain, im waiting on plenty of stuff bought off ebay, and i need to post two things, one of which is a midection of an exhaust

i aint even gonna bother till gone boxing day, snow here has trebled the issue of the holidays
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb (updated 17/12/10)

Postby RS rob on Fri Dec 24, 2010 2:53 pm

bought a new alternator
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this is the second one i've ordered, the first one did'nt fitted on my mount
so double checked this one fitted
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painted the wiper motor cover satin matt black, new bolts etc
should help keep everything looking fresh in the bay
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb (updated 24/12/10)

Postby FRSJON on Fri Dec 24, 2010 4:41 pm

looking good rob,might have to pick your brains on that alternator :wink: :Q
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb (updated 24/12/10)

Postby SLEEMAN on Fri Dec 24, 2010 7:32 pm

i want to know how much that lot cost ya mate including alternator, bolts and tensioner etc?
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb (updated 24/12/10)

Postby RS rob on Fri Dec 24, 2010 7:35 pm

jon - pick away my friend


sleeman - not sure i just book them to my account in work with employee discount
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb (updated 24/12/10)

Postby jonyb4 on Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:45 pm

ah you managed to find a wiper cover in the end then

alternator looks nice and fresh, not seen someone use two bolts liek that before to secure them, normally one long bolt
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb (updated 24/12/10)

Postby EUFez on Sat Dec 25, 2010 1:25 am

Just been reading through the thread again. WOW! What a project... Legend mate. Great work!
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb (updated 24/12/10)

Postby RS rob on Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:00 pm

jonyb4 :ah you managed to find a wiper cover in the end then

alternator looks nice and fresh, not seen someone use two bolts liek that before to secure them, normally one long bolt


its my original cover, which when originally tried spraying it got contaminated
so tryed sourcing another with no luck, so tried on the original again with lots of elbow grease and its come out alright

as for the one bolt idea, aint one bolt on the parts slide
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb (updated 24/12/10)

Postby RS rob on Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:45 pm

so to catch up on a few things,

picture of ians inlet manifold from underneath
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something important inside
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brand new pectel t2 ecu which harvey gibbs mapped my engine on
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my stack gauge oil temp sensor has been added to the sump,
aswell as a return to sump for the oil breather/seperator later on
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my rose jointed, camber adjustable lower arms from ian howell
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb (updated 24/12/10)

Postby RS rob on Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:56 pm

cleaned the heater motor up and back in its home
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new windscreen washer bottle
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gearbox cradle back on
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got the petrol tank ready to go on,
found these rubber isolators on on the fords ecat slide, even though they were'nt originally on the car, but cant be a bad thing
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fuel tank on
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put the anti roll bar bracket on the right way around, as the old man thought it was wrong when we first put it on, but after looking at old photo's at home
i was right all along, so its correct now
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb (updated 24/12/10)

Postby Excursion on Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:08 pm

Looking awesome. Can I please have the FINIS for those isolators, mate?
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb (updated 24/12/10)

Postby RS rob on Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:38 pm

i shall have a dig around for the number
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb (updated 24/12/10)

Postby jonyb4 on Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:59 pm

looking great rob, i love that first pic, that inlet looks a work of art :Q

bet your anxiously trying not to scratch any of the paint while fitting things


have you fitted axle spacers to the rear? do you remember where you got them from? i know its been years :(
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb (updated 24/12/10)

Postby RS rob on Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:39 pm

a couple of months ago i made some, looks like i did'nt bother posting up about them
simple really

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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb (updated 24/12/10)

Postby 3lward on Sun Jan 02, 2011 6:24 pm

surely its as simple as cutting the PCD and centre bore into a peice of 10mm thick metal and then squaring it up?
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb

Postby FRSJON on Sun Jan 02, 2011 6:50 pm

looking great rob,i want to see the engine in the bay :Q
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb

Postby RS rob on Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:58 pm

me too jon,
got some issues with the ib5 rear starter and the breather on the back of the block

taken the manifolds off the engine tonight and drained the oil from the engine
so tomorrow i'll decide if i'm sourcing a front mount ib5 and swapping internals, or simply moving the breather and baffle
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb

Postby - Danny Boy - on Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:04 pm

As said on FSI, LOVELY car, going to be a beast!! :D
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb

Postby Excursion on Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:43 pm

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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb

Postby heeman10 on Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:10 pm

All looking good Rob :)

Since you never seem to be in too much of a hurry with this build (the only way you can do something well! Not a criticism :) ), can I make a suggestion? I had an issue with one of the adjustable ball joints slipping on my Fiesta Frenzy lower arms. If I were to do it again, and with the time and facilities you appear to have, I would set my camber up, nip the nuts and bolts up, then drill through for perhaps an M8 bolt as a stop to make sure nothing shifted. M10 would be nice, if there is space. If you kept it to 8mm, you could perhaps have two camber settings preset (drilling the ball joint in two places on each side), so you could alter from "road" to "track" without needing to measure up. It was more than a little unnerving when mine slipped out on me, though it did only happen the once. By their design, they leave this nightmare open as a possibility really.
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb

Postby jonyb4 on Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:30 pm

heeman10 :All looking good Rob :)

Since you never seem to be in too much of a hurry with this build (the only way you can do something well! Not a criticism :) ), can I make a suggestion? I had an issue with one of the adjustable ball joints slipping on my Fiesta Frenzy lower arms. If I were to do it again, and with the time and facilities you appear to have, I would set my camber up, nip the nuts and bolts up, then drill through for perhaps an M8 bolt as a stop to make sure nothing shifted. M10 would be nice, if there is space. If you kept it to 8mm, you could perhaps have two camber settings preset (drilling the ball joint in two places on each side), so you could alter from "road" to "track" without needing to measure up. It was more than a little unnerving when mine slipped out on me, though it did only happen the once. By their design, they leave this nightmare open as a possibility really.




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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb

Postby RS rob on Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:04 pm

thanks for the idea james,
something I'll keep in mind when setting up the geometry

I'm not taking my time on purpose, it's a mixture of problems,
money, waiting for people generally

plus I'm a fussy git!
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb

Postby knuckles on Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:02 am

im gonna stop looking at this post as it makes me very jealous :x :(

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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb

Postby jayrs on Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:30 am

looking really good mate.
them rubber isolaters were fitted as standard to the fuel tank, dunno why yours didnt have them but they should of.

if you cant find the finis for mark i can have a look through my folder of bills and see if i can find the number of them from when i got new ones, or clark could look it up which would be easier and quicker :)
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb

Postby jayrs on Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:25 pm

i dunno how ive missed this thread for so long, but blimey! great work mate!

is this blaster any good? im thinking of getting one
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Postby adie_mwell on Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:48 pm

s**t mate depends on what your wanting it for heavy rust or anything with powder or a few coats of paint this wont do the job and youl spend more time filling it up and waitin on your compressor building up constant air to keep it going half decent
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb

Postby jayrs on Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:09 am

was just thinking of the hard to reach places on the underside of the xr2 when i flip it over.
its just surface rust really
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb

Postby RS rob on Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:41 am

jay it was a pain in the arse,
suprising how quick it goes

got the area really clean, lots of sheeting about as it gets everywhere
had to stop every now and then,sweep all the shot into a pile,
then pour it through a rice sieve

very time consuming, but it really did the job
you'll need a good pressure to get results from it jay
also went through loads of glasses as you cant see through them after a while :lol:
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb

Postby jayrs on Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:48 am

:lol: , sounds like it could do what i want it to then.
sheeting off i can understand, would be a nightmare for sure, depending how much i had to do, i may take the car outside and do it then not worry about the shot going everywhere, but if theres a fair bit, i would need to re-use the shot. hmmm
think ill get one though, sounds like it will do what i want it to nice and easy.
the compressor i got is good, will run that ok im sure :) cheers mate

sorry to take the thread off topic
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Postby Excursion on Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:03 pm

jayrs ::lol: , sounds like it could do what i want it to then.
sheeting off i can understand, would be a nightmare for sure, depending how much i had to do, i may take the car outside and do it then not worry about the shot going everywhere, but if theres a fair bit, i would need to re-use the shot. hmmm
think ill get one though, sounds like it will do what i want it to nice and easy.
the compressor i got is good, will run that ok im sure :) cheers mate

sorry to take the thread off topic


You're better off either hiring a pro setup, or paying someone to come do it mate. The stuff like that Clark kit won't remove underseal or the more pitted surface rust. There are one man bands who will come and do an underside for around £150.
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Re: project "JPH" 2.1 ZT 358bhp-365ftlb

Postby jayrs on Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:35 pm

depends on the grain of the stuff your using and the pressure really mate.
underseal isnt a problem, i can get all that off, its just mainly for the areas i wouldnt get a grinder with a wire wheel into, which from what ive seen so far is just surface rust, it doesnt look anything too bad really.
i have contatced a media blasing place to get prices on rear axles etc to be done, but havent yet asked about doing a under side of a car, but it is something im going to get a rough price for, after all, if it can saved me days of work then its got to be worth it, ( provided its not going to be stupid money

as for hiring, tbh its not something i considered, so i will look into what the cost of hiring something would be and compair to that of someone coming round and doing it
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