RS1800 "project trumpets" update with pics 9/4/11

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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby jonyb4 on Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:13 am

its gonna be trick squeezing them big things behind 15"

good luck with it


im eager to see more progress with this, im keen on it :)
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby rs1800dom on Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:38 pm

year is going to be tight. might take abit more off to give a bit more room under there.

will take some pics and post them up after i have my tea :lol:

have got a few wheel options in 15" too but will elaborate on that later 8)
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby rs1800dom on Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:36 pm

as promised here is a pic of the disc. that is a size 9.5 dc for refernce

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not small are they :D :D

here they are "SQUEEZED" behind the RS2k rims( am using 10mm spacers atm)

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have about fag papers gap between caliper and rim but "if there is space, theres space :lol: "

here are the other options but at the moment am liking the RS2K rims better

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hope to have head back this weekend to crack on with finishing the engine.

just need a cambelt kit and clutch kit.

any sugestion on clutch kits to use?

had the idea of either skimmin my flywheel a nats to lighten it, or re-drill a CVH flywheel as they are lighter as standard

also bought this the other week, will bolt on to my floor pan, just need a KA handbreak lever and zetec-s front cable.

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its a puma rear beam, and 20% stiffer, and 20mm wider over total width, should help in handling :D 8)
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby jonyb4 on Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:48 pm

i hope its the later fork type beam? or you've wasted your efforts :(

the earlier puma beam is identical to the mk4 item and isnt much stiffer, later ones are as stiff as the Zetec s beam :)
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby rs1800dom on Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:09 am

its off a 2000 milenium model.

think its the later one but does have eye mounting

my wifes puma is a 1998 model which has fork mounts and the alli spacer ford put in as an after thought

my one for the RS has the spacer as part of the beam, ie, its a piece of 10mm steel actually welded to the hub face on the axle. will post up pics of mine and the wifes to show the difference

tought all puma/ zetec-s beams were uprated compaired to the mk3 ones :-?

if mine is wrong will swap it with the wifes as her spacers are "worn" lol

and coil over kits are more often on ebay for this model :aviator:
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby jonyb4 on Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:13 am

nah you have the later one, it changed after 97/98 as did the mk4 fiesta, all mk5s and 98 onward pumas have the spaced and stronger beam, but the 1.7 puma and zetec s had a stronger beam again

quick way to tell, if it has eye mounting, its the stronger beam, but like i said zs and 1.7 puma beams are even stronger than all the others

apparently as good as a twin anti-roll bar'd mk3 rear torsion beam :)
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby rs1800dom on Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:16 am

excelent news :D

was thinking of bracin it up but didnt know if i would need it, no i know i dont lol

will be a mini update again at weekend as tidyin up down side of house to be able to do a little bit more work on her

until then :D
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:33 pm

the weekend is here :)
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby rsonblackwheels on Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:25 pm

nice up-date dude, them brakes are massive, should be awesome

like the DC shoe in the top pic :lol:

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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby rs1800dom on Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:59 pm

hello there again.

bad news bout progress :(

didnt work on RS at weekend, was busy with other peoples projects

got an emgine, gearbox, prop, diff and front hubs of a bmw as he is putting it into his track day compact. some people will never learn.
looking foward to see his face as i go past him when the rs is done :lol:

have got some plans for this weekend tho, but again no promises as i cant garrentie getting out to the car.

am after some advice tho, looking at the brakes, im not happy with the lack of clearance i have and cooling it will get, so looked on the internet today and found 24mm hubcentric spacers.

basically a 24mm spacer with spiggot ring mount so it doesnt stress the studs. (sure people have seen these before)

just wanted peoples verdict on them as not sure how good/safe they will be. also how quick will it eat wheel bearings :lol:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-FIESTA-MK3-2 ... 3cb4d070e0

see link for better descripton

anyhow what you peeps recon?

as i have a puma rear beam, with 10mm spacers probably, (totaling 20mm over complete axel) it will be slightly wider, but might be getting racing puma spacers to combat that.

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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby jonyb4 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:15 pm

never used them, but they seem safe, i recently used non centric ones that were 32mm each and just extended the studs using a screw on piece

i was s**t myself driving it so i refunded them

them ones are good in the sense they use second studs :)

will be bloody wide mind you, what wheels you using most 15" ones wont fit if the offset is around 35et
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby rs1800dom on Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:14 pm

serious change of direction now. am having some one come round at the weekend to determin if this project will continue, or be scrapped as i have just uneartthed more rust :o :cry: :cry:

i dont wanna do this but with recent issues i dont know if i can finish this or if it will finish me!!

its a hard dessision but the car is slowly breaking me down.

its not fnal yet so dont ask for any bits. but keep an eye on here as on sunday i will know the verdict
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby jonyb4 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:54 pm

aww bugger, i love this car looks stunning
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby rs1800dom on Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:34 pm

right, wish me luck, am getting the angle grinder out the shed, going to cut all rust out, then stand back and see how much of a car i have left

will post some pics of before and after in about an hour or two (or more depends how much rust i find :rolleyes: )

am optimistic taday, as friend said he can teach me how to weld, just need to buy a welder if im any good :lol:

might rent one if i do weld reasonable

see you guys in a bit :Q
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby jonyb4 on Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:56 pm

RS1800 Dom :right, wish me luck, am getting the angle grinder out the shed, going to cut all rust out, then stand back and see how much of a car i have left

will post some pics of before and after in about an hour or two (or more depends how much rust i find :rolleyes: )

am optimistic taday, as friend said he can teach me how to weld, just need to buy a welder if im any good :lol:

might rent one if i do weld reasonable

see you guys in a bit :Q



lo first line was funny, i can imagine 4 wheels, an engine and a rear axle :P
maybe a door :lol:


nah shouldnt be too bad mate, good luck
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby rs1800dom on Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:05 pm

technally there aint an engine so thats less already lol

i will upload pics after shower

have to stop now as little girl next door and dont wanna annoy them

found complete engine on ebay too. might buy it and slap it in while i spec my engine over summer/winter :D :devil:
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby rs1800dom on Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:33 pm

here are the pics of rust at back end of car. none of front, or after i cut the rear bits off as dam flatterys went bat :lol: :x

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going to spend a little more time on it again tomoz. sent message to someone about 130 spec engine for sale, asking for it cheaper as dont need inlet, wiring loom or ecu. he is just up the motorway from me, not even an hours drive. lets hope he goes for it

if i do get this then it will be a manick weekends work or two and get her running again :D :D :D

fingers are so crossed right now they are turning purple :lol:

might meen i get it welded and mot'd before the show season finish's.

but im getting ahead of myself :rolleyes:

am really getting into the mood for working on it again. dont know how i could have been so blasphimus and threaten scrapping it

cheeRS for now
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:54 am

back panel aint too bad, you could cut most of that away and not even have to replace it, but atleast if its a scruffy repair you can cover it with the bumper

bit under the boot seal looks a Bic™ though
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby rs1800dom on Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:33 am

was thinking of making the back panel "light weight" :lol:

if weather clears up, am hoping to go to scrap yard and cut bits of fiestas off :devil:

then they should meet and fit perfect if i cut them both right

i was mostly concerned about the suspension top mounting area that is excessivly NOT THERE :lol:

wanna cut section out and refit either thick sheet or doaner part from scrapy.

going out this morning to get a new tv, hopefully cheer me up :D
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby rs1800dom on Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:29 pm

great news, got engine for £200 going to hear and test drive it tomoz, then he taking it out monday
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:00 pm

:D awesome!

could you not just cut a whole rear panel from a scrappy fiesta and weld it into yours? the bulk head piec with the boot latch on i mean
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby rs1800dom on Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:51 pm

that is the plan, cut whole section off and then trim it and the car till they fit.

close boot and tack weld inside. make sure it fits, then lash it up :Q

might be cutting the front corner of front wings off as slightly scabby, and light weight is the way forward :lol:

if i get chance, will throw it in on the weekend with enough help, might even get it running :D :D :D

will post pics of pannel removal tomoz when its light and betterys are charged
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:53 pm

:Q
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby rsonblackwheels on Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:46 pm

wouldn't worry about the tinworm mate, i've seen much worse and like everyones said lightweight FTW only the strut top that need proper attention really :aviator:

how did the other engine look/sound today?

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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby rs1800dom on Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:23 pm

sold :(


to me :D :D :D :Q

seemed fine mate, looked as if its been taken care of

am hopefully collecting it tommorow.

which means strip down of escort ancillarys, and refit of fiesta bits during the week.

therefore leaving the weekend to hopefully wedge it back into the bay.

better get a move on with cleaning it first tho :D

gonig to give light rub down and quick coat of paint to freshen it up a bit, like you have done the strut towers.

will defo get pics up as each stage is complete.

havent done anything to it today as been dog sittin after looking at engine :rolleyes:
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby rs1800dom on Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:10 pm

right, mini update, due to weather, the engine is still in mateys escort, but is only held in by three bolts, he needs engine crane, as cant get it out underneath as rusted/snapped exhaust downpipe bolts. :( :x

what that does mean is i have had time to tidy up alot in front of the rs to make room to fit it(dead engine+box where under bay still :rolleyes: )

also, have attacked the back end with the grinder to remove the rust, and decided to go a bit further and reduce weight :D

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unfortunatly also found these bits while grinding
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this is were the flap for moisture to escape is and its a little bit crusty, dont know if i should completely remove and just rely on the one side.

or try and use one from a scrapped fiesta and try to combine the two.

also found this on the drivers side rear arch.! :x :x
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means im going to have to get the body shop on it :(

but its not a worry for now as its not a real issue. wont try to repair it yet as it will need completely replacing later on.

hope to have an update before the weekend of a few things that still need srorting before the engine goes in.

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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby jonyb4 on Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:05 am

serious weight loss there mate :lol:
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby rs1800dom on Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:35 pm

will be attacking the front wings with the grinder at the weekend to reduce some more weight.

its not all for the weight savin tho, theory is if there is no metal there, it cant rot there :lol:

just bought some powerflex rear axle bushes for the puma beam, and a KA handbrake lever.

only need the handbrake cable now to have a fully operational rear brake set up(once fitted of course :lol: :Q

will try to clean the rear beam this weekend before i have to get enginer bay ready.

just another task to do before the car is ready :rolleyes:

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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby rsonblackwheels on Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:50 pm

nice up-date dude, thats some sersious 'trimming' :lol: hope the front goes just as well :)

good news on the rear beam bush's and handbrake handle too, get the old wire wheel on the rear beam dude, shouldn't take to long to freshen it up with that and a drop of hammerite

just got mine back from the bodyshop as your thinking about sending yours off :lol:

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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby rs1800dom on Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:17 pm

dont rub it in :lol:

got the old bushes out the rear beam today :D

cleaned engine bay a little

will post up some pics in a bit of the bits i got done today after i have eaten.

went go kartin today so not that much done, going again tomoz so will try and cram as much as i can :Q
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby rs1800dom on Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:03 pm

right, little update for tonight

here are a few before pics of dirty engine bay
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not a great job, but it helps all the least, does need a bit of paint in some areas
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here are the goodies that came today. suprising what excites me, but i love it when i get post :D :lol:
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and a pic of the lever, not much but if it makes everythin work it deserves a picture
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got this a while ago, its for a cvh, but as i wont have a standard inlet it shouldnt matter :Q
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will get onto an early start tomorrow to get a bit done before gokarting.got some satin black paint for the lower strut brace/ exhaust hanger

will post up when its drying :)

also going to trial fit the rear beam bushes, and if i get chance, a first coat of paint to the axle.

wish me luck :D
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:54 pm

nice mate :D

them powerflex rear beam mount bushes are meant to be a right pig to fit :(
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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby rs1800dom on Sun Feb 27, 2011 12:03 am

:-?
on the puma forum they are ment to be peace of piss, just use alocated lube and slot them in?

will find out tomorrow, might just fit them the once when beam is painted lol

dont know why im putting so much detail in it as its mainly going to be used for track, with the accasional show and weekend useage,

but thought i might aswell as it would annoy me knowing its not tidy :)

did find some more bloody rust!!

something else to pay for :rolleyes: :x

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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby rs1800dom on Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:42 am

right this is what i was doing at half 7 this morning(i know this time of day doesnt exist to some people on a sunday :lol: )

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before

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after fisrt coat :D

also did few other bits
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exhaust hangers

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top engine mount before. havent got one of after yet. will get update tonight hopefully, if i get more time on it as going out now :rolleyes: :(

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Re: RS1800 "project trumpets"

Postby jonyb4 on Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:20 pm

jesus man get to bed!

i only just work up, god even had a lie in on a sunday :lol:
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