rs1800 swap for 1.1HCS

CVH and Zetec tuning, suspension and braking mods.

Postby Danny 2i on Sat Oct 27, 2001 10:44 am

what's involved here? i know that i'll need a new loom etc. how BIG of a job actually is it? :???: I really need a bigger engine but cant be arsed going for anything smaller just cos it's easier to fit (i.e. a 1.6S CVH or similar) as i'd rather just have what I want straightaway!!! :lol:
wot sort of insurance quotes have people had on these engines? Brad...i know u fitted ones of these???
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Postby jamiroquaifan on Sat Oct 27, 2001 11:27 am

so what bhp fugures do they produce? the rs turbo is 1.6 right? less bhp than the rs 1800? am getting an xr2i engine in soon. then it`ll be a 2.0L mondeo zetec once bored. possibly turbocharged :grin:
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Postby Wooly on Sat Oct 27, 2001 12:20 pm

RS1800, 2ltr Zetec and RS Turbo are all 130bhp

the Xr2i 1.8 16v is 115bhp (i think)

i think this is right
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Postby Muzza on Sat Oct 27, 2001 1:28 pm

(clears throat)

I think you will find the RST is 133Bhp

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Postby snake on Sat Oct 27, 2001 1:39 pm

Early mondeo 2.0 is 136bhp

Ford technical databook lists 1800 zetec+turbo at 130 bhp
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Postby Danny 2i on Sat Oct 27, 2001 7:25 pm

super! :razz:

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Postby Robin on Sun Oct 28, 2001 12:52 pm

yes some 1 plz answer the post as i'm quite interested in doing this project myself :smile:
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Postby Danny 2i on Sun Oct 28, 2001 8:09 pm

come on! :grin: :lol:
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Postby zetec69 on Mon Oct 29, 2001 8:01 am

Mine was a lot easier as I didn't have to touch the management etc and the RS1800 engine has very sinilar ancillaries to the Si 16v-water pump mounts were slightly different but apart from that all was ok. Oh yeah I needed a different starter motor aswell.
You'll probably need the engine with bits like starter,management, throttle body,mounts,water pump, airbox, gearbox, then maybe radiator etc etc. I would buy a salvage RS1800 and then you know ALL the bits are there or strip an RS1800 from the scrappy. PaulRS1800 might have all the stuff still-not sure tho.

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Postby fiesta_fras on Mon Oct 29, 2001 8:15 am

i am putting a 1.8 mondy engine in my 1.1 HCS car, i got new sump, pumps, mounts, g/box, loom, ecu, exhaust, cat, manifold, injection system, airbox, alternator, starter, oil pick up pipe, throttle body, errr thats about it off the top of me head
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Postby Danny 2i on Mon Oct 29, 2001 8:34 am

and do u reckon thats all you're going to need to complete the swap? i really need to find out exactly what i need cos i doubt whether im gonna be able to do the swap myself....therefore i need to make sure all the parts are there if someone else is gonna come along and fit it all for me..... :grin:
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Postby fiesta_fras on Mon Oct 29, 2001 8:40 am

take a look at http://www.fiestaprojects.com
and http://www.zetecinside.com
or wait till after xmas when ive done mine
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Postby Danny 2i on Mon Oct 29, 2001 8:57 am

cheers dude! :smile:
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Postby timb551 on Mon Oct 29, 2001 9:03 am

XR2i 16v is 105bhp
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Postby timb551 on Mon Oct 29, 2001 9:03 am

XR2i 16v is 105bhp
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Postby fiesta_fras on Mon Oct 29, 2001 11:45 am

its at least all those parts, u also need.

rad+fan
emissions bits and bobs
all the pipings etc
if ur doing a mondy eng u will need the PAS pump and reservoir

and poss a fuel tank and pump (im chking this out now)
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Postby Danny 2i on Mon Oct 29, 2001 2:57 pm

no..its the fiesta rs1800 engine i'm going for....if i were to find an rs1800 as a whole car with nothing removed, would that have ALL the bits i'd need to make the installation? :???:
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Postby Danny 2i on Thu Nov 01, 2001 12:32 pm

anyone know? :???:
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Postby snake on Thu Nov 01, 2001 3:11 pm

Would an Rs1800 have all the parts to turn your car into an Rs1800-If its a complete car, yes :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Postby Danny 2i on Thu Nov 01, 2001 4:54 pm

thanks! just wondered in case there were bits that needed modifying to get it 2 fit...that's all! :grin: cheers dude! :lol:
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Postby Project on Thu Nov 01, 2001 6:57 pm

WTF you wanna do it?

Just use the RS1800.

Unless you're out to scam the folks upstairs, but that's not such a good idea now, is it :rolleyes:

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Postby Danny 2i on Fri Nov 02, 2001 6:18 am

:razz:
Think i've got a mashed up RS1800 so im gonna use the bits that i need for the engine swap off that.......:wink:

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Postby Excursion on Fri Nov 02, 2001 8:57 pm

you need to drill two bigass holes in the chassis rail for the zetec engine mount
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Postby Danny 2i on Sat Nov 03, 2001 3:15 pm

yup! got everything sorted as to wot i'm gonna do now!
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Postby VR6 on Tue Nov 06, 2001 9:42 am

erm, why dont you just buy a RS1800 to start with?
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Postby Danny 2i on Tue Nov 06, 2001 10:02 am

well i would...but i done loadsa a work 2 my car already so it'd cost me more now....this wasn;t in my original plans but just an idea i thought of! :lol:
anyways...i would have only stripped the RS out 'cos im having a full respray! :smile:
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Postby AdrianFRST on Tue Nov 06, 2001 10:06 am

Cos then he'd have to do all the body mods again, swap the suspension etc again.

Not to mention the hassle of getting his current car into a sellable conditions then going through the selling process, advertising it, spending time demonstrating the car.

Then locating a good RS 1800, having it inspected and HPI checked, engine looked over etc.

Also by selling one and buying another you don't learn anything about mechanics, how the engine fits in and what all the sensors do and how they connect up.

Plus if you get a written off 1800 it's gonna be the cheaper route, maybe even to the extent that there are enough parts not needed, trim, bumpers etc as to recoup almost all of the inital cost of the written off vehicle.
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Postby VR6 on Tue Nov 06, 2001 10:53 am

Does seem to be a lot of hassle for a car that wont be worth as much as just buying a RS1800 that was born that way.

Still, each to their own, I like football and drinking, you enjoy spannering and tinkering :grin:
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Postby Danny 2i on Tue Nov 06, 2001 3:49 pm

What Ade said! :lol: He's exacty right! It's as much to with fookin' around with stuff as anything else! I would never fully trust what someone else has done (they dont care about the car as much as I do) therfore if I do everything myself I can make sure that
a) everything is done PROPERLY and
b) that good care is taken.
My overall aim is to have a car where all the mods have been done properly and everything to do with the car is clean and to the best possible standard....the only ways I can do this are to either pay someone a LOT of money to do it for me, or do it all myself.
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Postby carl s on Tue Nov 06, 2001 4:17 pm

just testing my sig and thought i'd ask why you didnt turbo it?
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Postby carl s on Tue Nov 06, 2001 4:24 pm

trying to get sig sorted, fingers crossed
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Postby Danny 2i on Tue Nov 06, 2001 4:32 pm

cool! its working! :grin: did you use the link I gave you? :???: and did the cheque arrive today? thought about turbo-ing it but this engine came up at a good price
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Postby carl s on Tue Nov 06, 2001 4:45 pm

yeah, sent you e-mail about that, mines running 180brake, can you get that of an rs1800? wont be hearing no dump valve then
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Postby Danny 2i on Tue Nov 06, 2001 8:09 pm

until i slap a turbo on it! :wink:
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Postby Excursion on Wed Nov 07, 2001 6:36 am

a good engine to turbocharge

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