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Running hot with GRS FMIC

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Running hot with GRS FMIC

Postby JamieFRST on Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:28 pm

I know that the air flow to the radiator is restricted with a FMIC, but I thought having a alloy radiator and kenlowe fan things would be ok. The temp needle is sitting around the N on the scale all the time and gets very near the red if I'm stuck in traffic for long periods. Just wondering what my options are really.


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Do I sell the radiator and get a larger one?

Fit a fan to the intercooler facing the other way to suck air back? Ive seen the following photo of this setup, but not sure if it works.

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Cut more of the bumper opening out and move the plate down.


I don't really want to loose the inner fogs or the bonnet catch. But I'm open to suggestions.

Is this Pornstars car? he seems to have the same setup but has the bumer cut out alot more.

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Postby FRSJON on Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:22 pm

yeah ,it's pornstars...if its getting that hot ,might be worth cheaking everything is working properly..i.e. thermostat ,fan(not wired wrong way round) worth a thought...would benifit from cutting the bumper but a lot of people dont like doing that so there must be a answer :)
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Postby j7aoc on Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:55 pm

There's a few thing's you can do the best thing i did to get the temp down was cutting the bumper added with a 75*c sat you can get them on ebay swirl pot helps not having a water cooled turbo will help bigger fan
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Postby FRST5090 on Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:59 pm

i have the same problem with mine it had a standard escort turbo rad, swirl pot, lower temp thermostat. So at the moment i am waiting on my big core GRS rad and have the bumper away getting the gap made bigger (didnt want to do it but dont think i had a choice) i also wrapped the exhaust manifold and turbo up with heat blanket as well as the downpipe so hopefully this will lower the water temp and the acts. :wink:
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Postby j7aoc on Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:05 pm

If your car is getting hot some time's with adding a fmic it will add to the bhp and will finish off the head gasket it did on mine when i first fitted one
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Postby FRST5090 on Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:31 am

my engine has just been built (ZVH) its not the headgasket i had the same problem when it was a (cvh) and had the fmic then as well
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Postby FRSJON on Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:51 pm

the only times ive had problems were with a blocked frst rad and a dodgy thermostat...ive since fitted the larger esrst rad and had no problems?? :-? cant see why yours is getting soo hot unless your running silly boost and a massive turbo??
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Postby FRST5090 on Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:55 pm

only has a T3 running just over a bar, its only in traffic it starts to get up to the N on the gauge! dont like it that high thats why i have decided to get the bumper cut out
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Postby FRSJON on Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:22 pm

yeah ,cut the bumper.. :devil: if it gets hot still them maybe wire the fan to a switch so you can put it on before it gets too hot :Q
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Postby fizzyturbo on Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:02 pm

ok my mate had this trouble when he fitted his grs, his car was running quite hot, we fitted an 82degree c thermostas and a cool running fan switch, fitted bonnet raisers at the back of the bonnet, to release ambient heat, and if its still running hot, try getting sum stuff called wetter water, its like coolant, but it slightly alters the properties of the water and makes coolant temps much lower

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finally im back in a fiesta turbo after a headache of building a bmw turbo
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Postby JamieFRST on Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:12 pm

Haven't had chance to look mine yet, will probably change the thermostat first, may also try that wetter water, heard good stuff about that. Might move the reg plate down a slight bit and trim the bumper a bit more.
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Postby GavStyli on Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:28 pm

hi mixon
make room and stick std fan back in there.
your rad may even be full of s**t so flow is crap inside especially if its old. might be a good idea to flush it.
youve blocked off air to 90% of the intercooler, whats the point in even having it, should have bought a smaller 1 if u dont want to ruin std look of car.
if u cut out bumper, more air will go to rad too, just do same as neil has done
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Postby Max M4X WW on Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:09 pm

Is that an RST rad? Fit a 2i one maybe? But i think cuttage is going to be the best bet and a low temp stat would be a good general temp lower er!
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Postby Farooq on Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:49 pm

i had the same problem mate i hav my rad recored and extended 2 inches because i have more room due to the intercooler being in front and that xtra 2 inches meant i could fit 2 8 inch fans on the front of the rad and , i replaced the thermostat with a 82degree one,added coolant and one bottle of cool boost from radtec.co.uk and my i drive my car very hard at 1 bar of boost and my temperture never goes above r even when standing in traffic for ages
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Postby JamieFRST on Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:29 pm

GavStyli :hi mixon
make room and stick std fan back in there.
your rad may even be full of poo so flow is crap inside especially if its old. might be a good idea to flush it.
youve blocked off air to 90% of the intercooler, whats the point in even having it, should have bought a smaller 1 if u dont want to ruin std look of car.
if u cut out bumper, more air will go to rad too, just do same as neil has done
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The intercooler was bought for my Grey RS where it would have sat behind a cossie front bumper, ive totally gone off the idea now and wanted to keep the car origainal looking, so had to do the best with what I had.

I was planning on cutting more of the bumper away, but letting the bodyshop do it when it goes in for a respray, Scort just trimmed a small bit of the bumper away to get the thing fitted really. The main thing really Is I want to keep the fogs. Will see what the temps are like after the system has been flushed, will check the thermostat and maybe try some additional coolant.

Failing that I will chuck the rad on ebay and go for a larger one maybe.
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Postby GavStyli on Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:17 pm

MixonFRST :
GavStyli :hi mixon
make room and stick std fan back in there.
your rad may even be full of poo so flow is crap inside especially if its old. might be a good idea to flush it.
youve blocked off air to 90% of the intercooler, whats the point in even having it, should have bought a smaller 1 if u dont want to ruin std look of car.
if u cut out bumper, more air will go to rad too, just do same as neil has done
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The intercooler was bought for my Grey RS where it would have sat behind a cossie front bumper, ive totally gone off the idea now and wanted to keep the car origainal looking, so had to do the best with what I had.

I was planning on cutting more of the bumper away, but letting the bodyshop do it when it goes in for a respray, Scort just trimmed a small bit of the bumper away to get the thing fitted really. The main thing really Is I want to keep the fogs. Will see what the temps are like after the system has been flushed, will check the thermostat and maybe try some additional coolant.

Failing that I will chuck the rad on ebay and go for a larger one maybe.


my intercooler is exactly double the thickness of yours, i use std fan, std size alloy rad which is now 8 years old lol
i never have overheating problems even on my top speed runs, motorway driving etc.
obviously i still have the gap between bumper and bonnet which could make all the difference but i think before u start spending more money, i suggest you switch back to std fan which would cost a tenner and cut out bumper which your going to do anyway.:)
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