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Re: Russ' mint green FRST ....not good :( help needed

Postby Excursion on Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:36 pm

smidydevil :Yea it's got antifreeze in it but it has a leak from the rad so it doesn't stay in there long :rolleyes: it does sound like normal when turning over but without it running lol, and ok is there anything else it could be before I check the loom? I'm going to check spark air and fuel today and check the cambelt and timing


Fuel cutoff switch and CPS are the likely ones - unless your coil has cracked in the cold (does happen).

Does the fuel pump prime on key position two?
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Postby russ-RST on Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:52 pm

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smidydevil :Yea it's got antifreeze in it but it has a leak from the rad so it doesn't stay in there long :rolleyes: it does sound like normal when turning over but without it running lol, and ok is there anything else it could be before I check the loom? I'm going to check spark air and fuel today and check the cambelt and timing


Fuel cutoff switch and CPS are the likely ones - unless your coil has cracked in the cold (does happen).

Does the fuel pump prime on key position two?


I will check the fuel switch, and how would I know if the CPS is naff? I tried a a spare coil pack I have that I know is good and didn't change, and yeah it does prime at pos 2
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Postby Excursion on Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:58 pm

smidydevil :I will check the fuel switch, and how would I know if the CPS is naff? I tried a a spare coil pack I have that I know is good and didn't change, and yeah it does prime at pos 2


It's not CPS or fuel cut off if pump primes. Have you taken out a plug and see if it sparks when cranking?
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Re: Russ' mint green FRST ....not good :( help needed

Postby russ-RST on Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:09 am

Iv had all 4 plugs out today they All have a good spark and there's defo fuel coming through :rolleyes:
The cambelt isn't snapped and seems at the right tension only thing I can think of is the belt has slipped at some point :/ I can't think of anything else it could be .....
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Re: Russ' mint green FRST ....not good :( help needed

Postby russ-RST on Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:09 am

Iv had all 4 plugs out today they All have a good spark and there's defo fuel coming through :rolleyes:
The cambelt isn't snapped and seems at the right tension only thing I can think of is the belt has slipped at some point :/ I can't think of anything else it could be .....
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Postby jonyb4 on Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:42 am

:( hate problems like this!
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Re: Russ' mint green FRST ....not good :( help needed

Postby Excursion on Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:53 am

smidydevil :Iv had all 4 plugs out today they All have a good spark and there's defo fuel coming through :rolleyes:
The cambelt isn't snapped and seems at the right tension only thing I can think of is the belt has slipped at some point :/ I can't think of anything else it could be .....


A compression test would confirm that. Have you checked/cleaned the ISCV?
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Re: Russ' mint green FRST ....not good :( help needed

Postby russ-RST on Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:31 pm

Seems a compression test is the only thing left to do :oooh: no I havent I think il disconnect the battery for a while to reset the ECU and take the iscv out an clean it again, might aswell clean my air filter whilst I'm there lol :rolleyes:
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Re: Russ' mint green FRST ....not good :( help needed

Postby bakewell001 on Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:13 pm

Ive got a full head gasket set if you need one...

Sounds like running it with the dodgy rad has finally caught up with it :(
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Re: Russ' mint green FRST ....not good :( help needed

Postby russ-RST on Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:21 pm

bakewell001 :Ive got a full head gasket set if you need one...

Sounds like running it with the dodgy rad has finally caught up with it :(



Hm it could be that the head gasket Has gone but I never let it over heat with the dodgy rad as soon as it got near N I'd turn it off and wait to cool down and refill with water lol

I will hopefully get borrow a conpression tester off someone and if it is then I will get hold of you lol is that with bolts aswell? As I was thinking if I have to have the head off I might aswell Stick some ARP head bolts in for good measure
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Re: Russ' mint green FRST ....not good :( help needed

Postby Excursion on Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:24 pm

smidydevil :Hm it could be that the head gasket Has gone but I never let it over heat with the dodgy rad as soon as it got near N I'd turn it off and wait to cool down and refill with water lol


WHY? :rolleyes:
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Re: Russ' mint green FRST ....not good :( help needed

Postby russ-RST on Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:32 pm

^^^ sorry??? Ok maybe the N was a bit of an exaggeration but it's never over heated lol
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Re: Russ' mint green FRST ....not good :( FOUND THE PROBLEM

Postby russ-RST on Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:17 pm

Well I'm pretty sure iv found the problem now, went out in the snow just now to check the timing and to me looks to be about 3 teeth out :aaah: :x

This is the crank pulley timing mark lined up to the 0 on the timing marks
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And this is where the timing mark is on the cam
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When it should be here....
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So yea looks like the belt has slipped about 3 teeth... Great! Geuss iv got to get the head off and see what the damage is :oooh:

Ps. I turned the crank through 360 so the mark was at 0 again incase that timing was for cyl 4 and the timing mark on the cam was at about 7 o'clock so im pretty sure it's out
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Re: Russ' mint green FRST ....not good :( FOUND THE PROBLEM

Postby russ-RST on Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:47 pm

I re timed the engine up to see if it would run, and it does but not great, it's not tappy which is what I would expect for valve/ piston contact but more rough like an exhaust blow and won't rev free nor idle it does rev but I don't want to give it death running like it is lol and it doesn't idle once I let off the throttle it dies but not quite straight away, whats people ideas?
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Postby Ratspeed on Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:13 am

I'm not sure if 3 teeth out is enough to hit the valves on CVH's. I'm sure someone more in the know will correct me.
do a compression test to make sure mate
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Re: Russ' mint green FRST ....not good :( FOUND THE PROBLEM

Postby russ-RST on Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:47 am

Yes I'm going to my mate had a listen to it earlier and said it sounds like its running on 2/3 cylinders , I did snap the clips on 2/3 of the ht leads so could be that
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Re: Russ' mint green FRST ....not good :( FOUND THE PROBLEM

Postby Rs Adz on Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:44 pm

smidydevil :Yes I'm going to my mate had a listen to it earlier and said it sounds like its running on 2/3 cylinders , I did snap the clips on 2/3 of the ht leads so could be that

wount hurt to try a set of ht leads
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Re: Russ' mint green FRST ....not good :( FOUND THE PROBLEM

Postby russ-RST on Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:50 am

Well I got a compression test done and had no compression on cyl. 2 so looks like bent valves....

So we got started
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Everything came off ok although we snapped 2 head bolts and a bolt to the thermostat housing, was strange on the head bolts as the two that snapped were completely dry and brown n rusted whereas the others were still the right colour and looked healthy, and the head gasket didn't look too good but it's getting changed now :lol:

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Which left us with this
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And then...
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Not sure if you can see the damage in the pics very well my iPhone camera isn't great :lol:
But the exhaust valve is bent on cyl 2 not majorly and the pistons are untouched and it just the one valve so I'm counting this as a lucky escape :lol:
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Postby russ-RST on Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:53 am

So I'm not sure if the guide is muffed or not so I'm just getting a 'new' head for it give it a little port n polishing and a clean up with all new gaskets and obvs head gasket n bolts and chuck her back together :) iv finally got another job so things should be starting to pick up again soon and can finally make some progress :Q
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Postby jonyb4 on Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:41 pm

hmm bit of a bummer and a bit of luck all at once then, new head sounds a bit rash but if the guide is buggered will be nessesary for a new head

atleast you know the gasket is done and good for a while
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Postby russ-RST on Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:11 pm

Well I'm not sure if the guide is f**cked or not but safer to go with a new head and forgot to
Mention I will be fitting me cambelt kit and waterpump iv had lying around for about a year :rolleyes: before I start it up with the new head, yeah that's the plan should be good for quite a while with all
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Postby russ-RST on Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:39 am

Well small update on this been doing a few bits n bobs whilst collecting parts as it was deemed my head is ok to be rebuilt. So I decided whilst I had the head of I could get creative with a bit of paint :lol: :Q so now my block looks like this
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my head will also be going this colour :Q
Also I got bored of the brushed on silver hammerite look to my to rocker cover etc. So decided to spruce it up a little :)
This Shows how Metallicy the paint is :) well sort of :lol:
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And then...
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The paint came out Ok it's a nice colour just had a lil reaction here and there and I couldn't be assed to sort it out so it will stay like it for a little while :lol: I think it looks good tho and I needed something dark to go against the lairy green :Q

Also the parts cupboard is growing now, I'm almost ready to begin the strip Down and rebuild.
Parts already got: inlet valve, lapping in stick and paste, an 87 degree thermostat, stud extractor to get the last snapped head bolt out of the block, "heavy duty" gearbox mounts, waterpump, cambelt kit, victor reinz head bolts set, and a full head gasket set including valve stem seals so I can change these now so I know there done :) , just waiting for my torque wrench to come through in the post and I think I have everything to begin the rebuild :-?
Trying to source a new radiator before it gets back on the road too, also I think one of my rear wheel cylinders has had it :lol:

Will updat with some real work sometime soon I hope lol, apologies for the iPhone pics and c+c welcome :)
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Postby jonyb4 on Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:04 am

please dont paint your head in that green


everything else looks great, love the grey
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Postby russ-RST on Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:54 am

jonyb4 :please dont paint your head in that green


everything else looks great, love the grey


Why not? You won see much off it any way...?
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Postby jonyb4 on Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:30 am

just me mate
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Postby Rs Adz on Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:20 pm

crackin on fast mate glad u got off lightly
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Postby russ-RST on Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:27 pm

Rs Adz :crackin on fast mate glad u got off lightly


Yea it's getting there I got everything to rebuild the head and put it all back together now just trying to get enough time of work to do it, iv got a few pics an am further on than above but il save em all for one bigg'ish update ASAP hopefully :lol: I miss my car and the wastegate chatter :(
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Postby Rs Adz on Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:37 pm

thats the main thing i miss with my old frst the chatter used to drive more than i needed just for the noise :lol:
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Postby russ-RST on Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:58 am

:lol: me too all the time :Q can't wait for a t3 :) should have an update soon ;) head looks great in green ;)
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Postby russ-RST on Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:53 am

Well this needs an update!

Started cracking on with the car lately, started Friday just gone built my head back up with the Bent valve replaced, yeah I checked over them all just incase just the 1 that got bent :)
Head painted and cam pulley back on and 1st valve lapped in :)
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Lapping in the new inlet valve into cylinder 2
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And just keep repeating untill you end up with this..
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Inlet face cleaned up (still a bit of crap left in this photo)
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Same again but exhaust side, the head still needs another coat in a few of these pics
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New thermostat in for good measure
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And that concludes the head rebuild
Will continue....
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Postby russ-RST on Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:11 am

Well that was the head rebuilt so I got cracking Saturday with a mate to put a few more new bits on and get it together
New waterpump and cambelt and tensioner and bottom pulley on, big thanks to jay with his advise with the pulley 3 odd hours of beating and a whole can of lube it finally decided to pop off :rolleyes: :lol: I also changed the crank seal whilst I was there
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And the head plonked on, looks very bright and green :rolleyes: :Q
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And all times up with the new cambelt kit, hopefully I don't slip a tooth this time :wink:
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Then just piecing it back together :)
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Mostly back together here altho iv noticed my oil breather pot has broken in storage so got a Idea for that, so all in all it's had, new valve, new gaskets throughout, head gasket and bolts, crank and cam seals, thermostat,valve stem oil seals, cambelt kit and waterpump so should be Ok for a while , we started piecing it together on Saturday and after a few mishaps, lost tools, many fag breaks and 20 mins wondering why I could turn it over by hand :rolleyes: turned out to be I had left it in gear :lol: we got it back ready for start up Sunday afternoon
Got it jumped and fired up straight away! :D very happy and it runs so smooth and quite now and I managed to source the reason why my turbo was rattling had a minor zorst blow and a leek from the oil return, forgot to tighten the bolts up fully :lol: it's running really well and covered 80 miles in it so far :D can't explain how happy and relieved I was when It started lol I will get a vid and a few pics today for you as iv got to wash it it's filthy and I'm going up the scrappy for a few bits

Thanks to everyone that helped me with the questions I've asked, youl know who you are :) and thanks to John bean and my mate Kc (apoligise for the rubbish pics I only have my iPhone available for pics till I get a decent camera
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Postby russ-RST on Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:14 am

Just need a new radiator, clutch and TPS now :)
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Postby jonyb4 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:55 pm

that looks better than i imagined it would, great work and nice to see you went that bit further replacing serviceable parts while it was out
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Postby russ-RST on Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:46 am

Yea when the head and block were together it looked abit much but with all the other bits you can't really see half of it
If I'm honest :) looks good and easy to spot an oil leak with it being so bright :Q going to give it a wash today got a new pair of front door cards yesterday so il get pics of these and the car and a vid if I remember :lol:

Radiator and clutch next on the list then it will be very healthy :)
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Postby jonyb4 on Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:13 pm

haha "halfords new oil leak detection paint range" :lol:

to be fair you can hardly see it in them pics
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