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[russ-RST]

what was you in?

[Smo]

Just my runaround Fiesta

I did see you the other week while I was in my white one at the Asda roundabout, but I didn't flash because I wasn't sure you'd have a clue who I was

[russ-RST]

lol well next time give us a flash then i atleast have a clue who you are and i havnt got a stalker lol

[Smo]

I have spoken to you as well actually. You came into where I work and I chatted to you briefly about shocks and springs and asked if you were on here I work at EKC, although I'm usually out the back or driving

[russ-RST]

oh yea i remember you lol wont be in need of those suspension set ups in the end lol as i should be gettin some coilovers on the rs turbo shell iv got although i will probs be in soon for a exhaust gasket on the rs turbo lump as i gta change the turbo and gettin a manifold with the new turbo so will be easier to swap it all over so i might be seeing you soon lol gimme a flash if you drive past

[Smo]

Will do!

One thing though, we don't get *too* involved with exhaust stuff, so don't be surprised if they say they can't do it! Also, I know full well, in our exhaust book we don't have any listings on RS Turbos anymore Best idea is to try Cats round the corner from us, they can do very good prices on the exhaust side of things because they deal with them all day long and even stock a lot of stuff too

With the suspension, you may need to swap hub carriers and stuff too, as the front shocks are a different size between the MK3.5 and MK3... I don't know exactly what needs changing, but if you have everything there on the RS shell, it shouldn't be too problematic

[russ-RST]

Will do!

One thing though, we don't get *too* involved with exhaust stuff, so don't be surprised if they say they can't do it! Also, I know full well, in our exhaust book we don't have any listings on RS Turbos anymore Best idea is to try Cats round the corner from us, they can do very good prices on the exhaust side of things because they deal with them all day long and even stock a lot of stuff too

With the suspension, you may need to swap hub carriers and stuff too, as the front shocks are a different size between the MK3.5 and MK3... I don't know exactly what needs changing, but if you have everything there on the RS shell, it shouldn't be too problematic

i was thinkin that last night that you don't do much in the way of exhaust items so yea will do thanks for the headsup


and im just guna swap pretty much the whole front end of the car and have all the rs turbo bits on mine so then aswell later on in life when i get coilovers i can get em for a mk3 as i havnt seen a set for the mk3.5 yet

[russ-RST]

just making sure i dont get any unwanted suprises when i change my engine as i want it done over a weekend i have the shell so iv got all the parts so it will mount up in the same place and i just change over the engine wiring loom and ECU for the frst one and this should work am i right ????

[russ-RST]

not an update as such as i havent done anything to the car after loosing my job but now iv got another one and things should be rolling again,
as of next week im buying a rsturbo that has been rebuilt 3k ago but the oil seals have gone in the turbo but no worries as i already have another turbo now only a standard T2 for now.. ... im buying the car for the engine and the interior mostly and might just swap the rear beam with mine as 1. it has the anti roll bar and 2. i think 1 of my wheel bearings is starting to go so could make things easier.. iv had a look around the car and its not in too bad condition the interior is minty mint mint with not a scratch on and and the engine is all good with a s/s cat back exhaust so i will be using all this, as far as im aware the only thing wrong with the car apart from in need of a spray as it has surface rust around the bonnet edge and other odd places but the petrol cap area is fine is that the floor pan needs a sheet welding, was just wondering if anyone would be interested in the shell with either this welded and fixed or as it is... will be going very cheap...

so the next update will be pics of me picking up the rs turbo and then all the work of swapping over the bits so stay tuned people

as usual any comments are welcome

russ

[jonyb4]

cant believe you claimed the zetec isnt very tunable... most can hit 150bhp with silly mods that cost bearly nothing, few hundreds at most

four branch, air filter, good exhaust and a chip, like most have said going past 160 is more challanging using N/A

if you want to embarris you XE welding nova mate, get it turbo'd on budget, it can easiliy pop 180 margain, 200 isnt a far cry or more

Ian Howells and Ahmed Bajoo made over 570bhp from theyre prodject zetec turbo, thats more than most 2.0l will allow

zetec turbo conversions on a budget come under less than a £1000 if you have good resources and equipement

[russ-RST]

what im saying is IMO the with keeping the zetec NA i dont think its worth the money it requires to get to a decent power output, as in compared with a rs turbo, im doing everything on a budget atm and thers not alot of difference in the prices of gettin a rs turbo engine and a zetec engine so the tuning side is what i was asking for peoples opinions on and in my eyes with the zetecs stayin NA to get it to 160bhp+ and a rs turbo to 160bhp+ it looks to me as the rs turbo will be cheaper to get to that figure, im not sayin the zetecs are not tuneable because as everyone has prooved they are, its just with the budget i have i think a rs turbo would be a better route to take (plus im gettin one cheap )

plus IMO 150bhp isn't really enough for me (i know il get criticism for sayin this) but i dont think its that much compared to the two cars i want to beat, a XE nova which is about 150-160bhp, and a 205 with the gti6 engine which are 170bhp and which i think both of these cars would be lighter than my car aswell so i will need to make up with extra power to beat them.. which is why i said that i think the zetecs arent that tuneable for there money as you could put 1k into a NA zetec and get what 170bhp? at most whereas if i was to put 1k into a rs turbo id expect around 200 mark

[jonyb4]

if you spend about £1200 on a 2.0l you would get 180-200bhp using some jenvey throttle bodies and some decent cams, a nice cheap 4-2-1 and a panel filter would see this figure fine,

and dont forget if a N/A engine has roughly the same as a turbo engine, specially anything bigger than a T2 the N/A 2.0 zetec would likely be quicker, as no turbo lag to deal with plus the 2.0 zetec would provide more torque on average than the 1.6 cvh turbo

with the cvh you'd be needing a good cam, good exhaust and induction, a T3 conversion good intercooler and a 195 chip, this would cost close to a grand id say

plus with a zetec you will get more refinement with a more economic and smoother engine

[russ-RST]

i dont think youd be able to get jenveys have them all set up a xhaust system remap and a decent induction plus id have to get the inlet for the jenveys i reckon itd cost more to 1500 plus that'd be a pain to travel everywhere oto get the jenveys set up etc. with the r turbo lump iv only got to travel to get the map done plus i have been told that the rs turbo lump i have bought COULD have a 1.8 zetec bottom end,uprated cam,beige injectors and a superchip on it... although this is not definate it would be nice! IMO i dont rate the zetec engine for price on performance gains whilst NA IMO! hence why i have bought a fiesta rs turbo
im not sayin the zetecs are cr*p etc as im doing the zetec conversion into my cousons newly bought xr2i so i will find out first hand which i prefer and i may be prooved wrong but for the moment i hold my judgement that IMO the rs turbo engines are better in my eyes

[MK2 Jamie]

You could do a t3 conversion for well under £1000 with second hand parts. Where as Jenveys plus management is going to be stupid money, bearing in mind its going to need mapping/a rolling road session too. To get 200bhp and over with n/a your going to need head work done even with aftermarket cams.

[russ-RST]

You could do a t3 conversion for well under £1000 with second hand parts. Where as Jenveys plus management is going to be stupid money, bearing in mind its going to need mapping/a rolling road session too. To get 200bhp and over with n/a your going to need head work done even with aftermarket cams.

this is what i thought

[jonyb4]

wayne claims he is getting a kit with omex (not sure which one 600 maybe?) and the 45mm jenvey bodies all set up for a grand

ok cams for £300, K&N about £45 but can be cheaper and a four branch for around £170

id prefer a nice usuable N/A zetec with close enough makes no difference 180bhp

[MK2 Jamie]

wayne claims he is getting a kit with omex (not sure which one 600 maybe?) and the 45mm jenvey bodies all set up for a grand

ok cams for £300, K&N about £45 but can be cheaper and a four branch for around £170

id prefer a nice usuable N/A zetec with close enough makes no difference 180bhp

I said that about my RS1800. I was talking about cams, throttle bodies ect ect until my brother (fiend) bought a 196bhp Fiesta RS Turbo which was a perfectly fine car for driving round town in but when you needed it, it could be brutally fast. I wouldn't even consider N/A tuning after that. To be honest though the N/A or Turbo route is an each to their own kind of situation.

[jonyb4]

oo i didnt know fiend was your brother

like you said though, its down to personal preferance, personally ive never had a turbo, or even driven one (except a tdi )

but i am comfortable with N/A to know they can be easy to live with even after some tuning

[russ-RST]

right i picked up the rs turbo last night happy with it got all the recaros out and straight in my car as there minty mint i will upload pics tomorow after iv done some more work on the engine side of things

stay tuned

russ

[russ-RST]

engine is almost ready to come out now just going to pick up the crane tomorow and i gota take of the wishbones and driveshafts and were ready

then its going straight in where ther 1.3 is sitting

i will try and upload some pictures asap but my phone is playing up so i cant garuntee when but i do have them! lol

[jonyb4]

seems bit of a waste, whats wrong with the RS? why cant you get that on the road instead?

[Smo]

Trust me, Jony, flappy rear light panels did not come as standard, nor were they an optional extra.

[russ-RST]

Trust me, Jony, flappy rear light panels did not come as standard, nor were they an optional extra.

llama you cheeky git. the engines good but the shell is really rotten so gunna squash it unless anyon wants to collect it free of charge?

[russ-RST]

right had another hard day at work on the fezza 1.3 engine is out and the turbo engine is sitting underneath the car ready to be bolted in, wiring is all done and ready to be plugged in with a big thanks to smo for it will ulpoad pics once i get home and charge up me phone and find a plug for it then i can show u all what a mess iv been making lol

[Smo]

If the engine goes pop, I'm so glad I had nothing to do with it

If the wiring starts to melt, I'm so glad you don't know where I live

Good to hear you've almost there... Reckon you can get the lot done tomorrow? You're a day behind your schedule now!!!

[russ-RST]

If the engine goes pop, I'm so glad I had nothing to do with it

If the wiring starts to melt, I'm so glad you don't know where I live

i wouldnt point the blame at you anyway matey lol

Good to hear you've almost there... Reckon you can get the lot done tomorrow? You're a day behind your schedule now!!!

almost i had a pain in the arse sortin out the zorst and then i had to make up my fuel lines so these took up quite a while but it is in and sort of running lol

plan of action tomorow:

secure the 2 clamps on the exhaust system
connect rear engine support
sort out gearlinkage as it isnt aligned properly
fill gearbox up with fluid
chuck some anti freeze in it
find my usb cable so i can upload some pictures
and then find out why she isnt going although i have my suspisions lol

[Smo]

At least you're getting there!

Just make sure all the connectors are in the right places, injectors, HT leads, all the sensors, etc... It can't be anything major as you know it was running fine before you took it out

[russ-RST]

will be going round to have another go at is soon just waiting for my mate to get up so i can get a lift round and a 2nd persons opinion on what im doing

will keep you posted on hw things go
iv also put up a page in the queries section for anyone who wishes to donate some ideas as to why she wont start

russ

[russ-RST]

this engine conversion is appearing to be alot more challenging that i thought it would be lol
i got the engine running today but something is not right 2 of the cylinders when i pulled out the ht lead whilst its running do not offect it and sounds like its running on 3 cylinders
iv also got to get some fuel lines tomorow to make all my fuel lines upfor it as at the moment they are very bodged
i havent as of yet changed over the tanks/pumps but i wouldnt of thought it would make the car run like this

will be having a long think over tonyt and get back on it tomrow to find out why will be gettin a compression test done tomorow also

i do hope if not buggered

[bakewell001]

Did it run alright before you took it out of the rs shell?

Just chatting to Si to see if we can come up with any other ideas!

[russ-RST]

na it ran rough in the shell aswell but the bloke i bought it off just said that was because it had no petrol in it!it wasnt even on the gauge
but know im starting to think iv been had
oh ok lol yea im going round me mates tonyt and were guna have a good think about it

[MK2 Jamie]

Crank sensor maybe?

[Smo]

Hopefully the compression test will reveal all!

[jonyb4]

sounds like it could be the ignition to me, check its set up right

its obviously something to do with sparking if some of the cylinders aint firing, if you can also throw some redex in give the injectors a little clean through

also check the gaps on the spark plugs

[russ-RST]

the spark plugs are brand new as are the leads and me and si checked the leads and theyre all on the right way around and wwhen he pulled the out they were sparking so i dont think its anything to do with the ingition
and also the injectors are clicking so i think theyre firiing, going to get some fuel line and do a compression test on it and see what comes from that