Superchips

CVH and Zetec tuning, suspension and braking mods.

Superchips

Postby Ollybee on Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:40 am

OK been having a bit of a recently dilemma. I got myself to be what I thought to be a rather groovy superchip. Anyway got it home and have eventually got around to playing with it.

As I'm sure a lot of know it was easy to fit and I expected instant results. They were not forthcoming. So I gave the Superchips company a ring to ask what the deal was. He thought I had not cleaned up the waxy s**t thats all over the ecu board. Took it all apart, got some more thinners on the case and it was still the same.

The car felt slightly more responsive but top end was down 26mph!!!

Superchips have been great and offered me a full refund but I'm still curious as many people have had this annodised blue bits of potato, how come mine just didn't work for me?

The car it was for was the Classic, with 1800 105hp, Si wiring loom and Mondeo 115hp BLOB ecu. Superchips guy programmed it at FF in front of me for a BLOB ecu??
Those that can, do; and those that can't, talk about it.
Image
YRN Thread - yrn-vt151433/
FACEBOOK - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=869385470
Ollybee
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 8535
Joined: Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:37 pm
Location: Ilkley, West Yorkshire.
Your car: Focus Titanium & Fiesta ST

Car: 1996 Ford Fiesta Quartz

Postby edders on Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:40 pm

well send it back and get a megasquirt :D :D :D :D

if your losing top end then its limiting you revs somewhere.

question?isnt the blob a 2.0 ecu
8 slices, 4 Sandwiches.
Image
edders
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1318
Joined: Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:51 pm
Location: Leigh, Manchester

Postby Oranoco on Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:04 pm

I would say the problem comes down to the complete mismatch of components used in the conversion. If you'd had matching engine and ECU you would have almost certainly seen gains (as we have on an Escort GTi). Chipping an ECU designed for a different engine wouldn't give good results and I would expect the problems you describe.

Don't think you can blame SuperChips for this one I'm afraid
Image

Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience
Oranoco
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 7426
Joined: Sat May 21, 2005 3:20 pm
Location: HertFORDshire

Re: Superchips

Postby sailorbob on Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:28 pm

ollybee :The car felt slightly more responsive but top end was down 26mph!!!
Maybe it was one of those 'urban high performance' chips only for use in town centres :D

On a more serious note, it's probably a faulty chip or as Superchips said, a dirty J3 connector.
sailorbob
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1430
Joined: Sun Aug 10, 2003 10:52 am

Postby Ollybee on Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:09 pm

I'm not blaming SC. The guy I've been speaking to has been really helpful and offered me the refund without my asking. Reason for the post was to see if anybody has had any negative experiences with them and if they had managed to sort it.

I completely stripped down the ecu and got some good thinners on there so no terminals were dirty, then promptly got done over by a 90hp Audi tdi :x
Those that can, do; and those that can't, talk about it.
Image
YRN Thread - yrn-vt151433/
FACEBOOK - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=869385470
Ollybee
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 8535
Joined: Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:37 pm
Location: Ilkley, West Yorkshire.
Your car: Focus Titanium & Fiesta ST

Car: 1996 Ford Fiesta Quartz

Postby Oranoco on Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:17 pm

The Audi may only have 90bhp but being a TDi it will certainly have a lot more torque than you.
Image

Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience
Oranoco
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 7426
Joined: Sat May 21, 2005 3:20 pm
Location: HertFORDshire

Postby Ollybee on Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:23 pm

Maybe so, but have played with this car before and beaten it. Removed chip and can beat it again. Anyway thinking of edders option now, as they are not too much more. Was just amazed at the difference, in the wrong direction.
Those that can, do; and those that can't, talk about it.
Image
YRN Thread - yrn-vt151433/
FACEBOOK - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=869385470
Ollybee
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 8535
Joined: Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:37 pm
Location: Ilkley, West Yorkshire.
Your car: Focus Titanium & Fiesta ST

Car: 1996 Ford Fiesta Quartz

Postby sailorbob on Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:31 pm

Personally I wouldn't touch a MS, the coding leaves a lot to be desired.
sailorbob
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1430
Joined: Sun Aug 10, 2003 10:52 am

Postby Ollybee on Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:40 pm

Sailorbob, it was you who correctly advised me that the BLOB ecu would work when I was doing the conversion.

What recommendations would you suggest? I've got my hands on a cheap set of 130 cams and throttle body. Just looking for a cheap maf now. Was thinking the MS would be a way getting around the RS18 ecu and then chipping it........
Those that can, do; and those that can't, talk about it.
Image
YRN Thread - yrn-vt151433/
FACEBOOK - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=869385470
Ollybee
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 8535
Joined: Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:37 pm
Location: Ilkley, West Yorkshire.
Your car: Focus Titanium & Fiesta ST

Car: 1996 Ford Fiesta Quartz

Postby sailorbob on Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:04 pm

A 2nd hand RS1800 ecu and chip would probably be cheaper than MS.

If I could lay my hands on a RS1800 ecu I could see if it was possible to chip a different ecu with the RS1800 code so you do a RS1800 conversion without the ecu. I've run 2.0l Mondeo code on other some non 2.0l ecu's without a hitch. As long as the ecu hardware is the same it should work. Anyone got a spare RS1800 ecu lying around :D
sailorbob
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1430
Joined: Sun Aug 10, 2003 10:52 am

Postby Ollybee on Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:27 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought I couldn't run the RS18 ecu with an Si loom.
Those that can, do; and those that can't, talk about it.
Image
YRN Thread - yrn-vt151433/
FACEBOOK - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=869385470
Ollybee
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
User avatar
Posts: 8535
Joined: Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:37 pm
Location: Ilkley, West Yorkshire.
Your car: Focus Titanium & Fiesta ST

Car: 1996 Ford Fiesta Quartz

Postby sailorbob on Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:34 pm

Early RS1800 ecu had external EDIS, later one's had internal EDIS so a later ecu should be OK. There may be some J1 connector pin swapping.
sailorbob
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1430
Joined: Sun Aug 10, 2003 10:52 am


Twitter

The second 20th Anniversary article, a dive into the history of how the site came about is available here: https://t.co/kbCfZ4sf0R

17:44, 4th December 2021 Twitter Web App

To celebrate https://t.co/wXVkvJipaS being 20 years old this year, I've written a series of articles detailing the… https://t.co/B0vE0Y3KvP

17:42, 4th December 2021 Twitter Web App

Follow fiestaturbo.com on Twitter:
http://twitter.com/fiestaturbo/

RSS Feeds

Subscribe to the RSS feed

What is RSS?

RSS is a technology that lets you use special applications or modern browsers to notify you you when a site is updated. You can then read the updated content in that application or your browser.

To subscribe to these RSS feeds you need to copy the links above. For instructions on how to add it to the feeds you keep track of, consult the documentation of your RSS reader.