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by **rs van dan** on Sun Nov 18, 2001 12:41 pm

i know it bolts up the only thing thats bothering me is i dont want to reloom it can i run it on carbs and if i can how can i wire up the ignition because there is no coil just a black box that the leads plug into

by **BeemanFRST** on Sun Nov 18, 2001 5:08 pm

id like to know that aswell

by **Project** on Mon Nov 19, 2001 12:52 pm

I haven't got any first hand experience but...

yes, carbs can be done (there's a post in the gen discussion section (maybe) from three or so months ago. Problem lies in the camshaft position sensor, as you have to get an ignition system to run off that, or just disable the injection system and run the ECU and E-DIS system.

But then, if you're gonna do that you might as well go for the whole lot.

There's almost no extra hard work to convert from carb or EFi to SEFi - there are only 5 wires connectiong most engine looms to the car (a few more if it has PATS I think - ask Mr Stewart); ignition live, permanent (keep alive memory) live, earth, fuel pump, and rev counter.

Al

by **AdrianFRST** on Wed Nov 28, 2001 1:29 pm

There is a way to do the ignition, it is so easy, if you can't see it then don't do the conversion, if you still want to do the conversion though e-mail me and secrets never know before or told by "tuning companies" can't be done will be shown! REMEMBER TUNING COMPANIES SEEM TO KNOW poo AND CHARGE THE SUN FOR BOLLOX :cool:

by **crazy dave** on Wed Nov 28, 2001 2:27 pm

use the dis system from a base model cvh fiesta that runs a carb, cps, tiny ecu and wiring and a sensor under the air filter nuff said

by **AdrianFRST** on Fri Nov 30, 2001 12:32 pm

Whats with all the ecu and dis of a poo fiesta gonna do for it? Run poo timing, thats why its on a 1.1 fiesta. You want to use a std escort rsturbo distributor and cap, nuff said I think!

by **crazy dave** on Fri Nov 30, 2001 8:10 pm

and where the fk you gonna put it?????????????????????????????????? and since when has there been a 1.1 cvh in a mk 3 fiesta?? they only produced a very small number of 1100's and they were in mk3 escorts.

[ This Message was edited by: crazy dave on 2001-11-30 19:12 ]

by **I LOVE CORSAS** on Fri Nov 30, 2001 8:34 pm

by **Project** on Fri Nov 30, 2001 9:07 pm

lol I reckon they're all the same person under different sign in names - multiple personalities anyone?? :lol:

Using the non-mappable ignition system from a DIS equipped car will restrict the ignition timing and make it hard to adapt the curve for the car.

The majority of tuning companies you're slating make a fair wage out of setting the ignition and fuelling systems up on customised and kit cars using very high quality, very accurate kit.

Just my tuppence worth. I just think they know a bit more about making odd kit run together than I do, that's all.

Al

by **crazy dave** on Fri Nov 30, 2001 9:21 pm

al my thoughts were as a budget option? i would imagine the ecu from the dis carbed cvh's would be mappable somehow? obviously this would save huge ammounts of wad on equipment cost compared to aftermarket systems. i know ava have grafted a dizzy onto a zetec but iyt looked pooe and there would be costly machining to get the dizzy fitted and the pulleys made to drive it.

by **Project** on Sat Dec 01, 2001 2:25 pm

The cam phase sensor works much like the CPS as far as I know, so there's no reason why you couldn't use that to trigger a coil pack is there??

by **Excursion** on Sat Dec 01, 2001 2:43 pm

yeah thats once every TDC as apposed to 72 degrees DTDC

by **snake** on Sat Dec 01, 2001 5:43 pm

Just buy a fecking ignition management system, they are sub £500(Weber kit is around £400, u know this will work right and will be reliable-not a bodge job..Cvh distributer- :lol:

[ This Message was edited by: snake on 2001-12-01 16:44 ]

by **crazy dave** on Sat Dec 01, 2001 7:19 pm

not a botch job cvh dizzy!!!!!!!!! don't put that on the rsoc bb the ava boyz will not be happy :lol:

by **snake** on Sun Dec 02, 2001 10:35 am

by **AdrianFRST** on Mon Dec 03, 2001 9:07 am

OK. Engage brain. You want it to be cheap:
1: Take one rsturbo distributor.
2: Take one zetec rocker cover.
3: Take one variable angle hacksaw.
4: Cut off the rear blanking plate on the rocker cover.
5: Re-fit rocker cover.
6: Drill and tap head with 6mm holes (I think its 6mm)
7: Fit distributor and coil as you would a cvh.

by **crazy dave** on Tue Dec 04, 2001 9:00 pm

you make it sound easy????? is it :???:

by **Excursion** on Wed Dec 05, 2001 6:45 am

REAR BLANKING PLATE.......
TAP HEAD......

Mate theres nothing like that on the zetec! I think your probably getting cunfuzzled with an injection CVH.

Then theres the cams you'd have to have a cam grund with some kind of drive, and another one amde to balance that....

by **AdrianFRST** on Wed Dec 05, 2001 9:58 am

I think you aren't looking at a zetec rocker cover there. The blanking plates are definitly on there. What do you think I cut? My hand off? Nope, there are definitly blanking plates there, and the cams are already keyed at the same end. If yours aren't then you must be gutted basically.

by **Excursion** on Wed Dec 05, 2001 12:49 pm

yeah ok then, you do that :smile:

by **AdrianFRST** on Wed Dec 05, 2001 1:43 pm

I don't like your tone of voice excursion. You offer advice all over the site but yet when I put up factual information you think it is rubbish. Now anyone with a zetec engine will go and see the blanking plates and cams keyed at the usual distributor end and realise my method is correct. I mean, the guy asked for a cheap way to do the ignition on his zetec engine. Thankyou for your time but you are the weakest link, goodbye (sorry for that outburst I just had to say it).

by **crazy dave** on Wed Dec 05, 2001 1:49 pm

Can't see any on mine! oh sorry any of the 3 of mine also what did you do for an oil seal?? i cant't see a way of fitting a dizzy to the zetec 'easily' because of the shape of the rocker can't you gat some pics to help explain how you have done it?

by **fiesta_fras** on Wed Dec 05, 2001 1:58 pm

excursion has seen more zetecs than most ppl see in a ford factory :lol:

i havent got anything like that on my zetec as well. cant see what ur talking about, got any pics to help?

by **Robz_Fester** on Wed Dec 05, 2001 2:16 pm

LMFAO

: What kind of zetec is yours? It's just Im sure excursion has all different (S, E & R innit?) and I reckon he probably does know what he's talking about: <A HREF="http://www.fiestaprojects.com" TARGET="_blank">www.fiestaprojects.com</A>

Like Fras said, have you got a picture???

PS I ain't got a feckin clue about zetecs, jsut trying to learn a bit more :smile:

by **Phil Si** on Wed Dec 05, 2001 2:34 pm

lol yeah i rekon mark could rebuild a zetec with his eyes closed... he had more of them than i have had hot dinners!! :rolleyes:

by **Excursion** on Wed Dec 05, 2001 4:01 pm

LOL fankyoo chaps

but no m8 seriously the "keys" you refer to are for aligning the camshafts during timing. There are no blanking plates either.

by **crazy dave** on Wed Dec 05, 2001 6:25 pm

the cam is too far away from the rocker cover to drive the dizz anyway

by **snake** on Thu Dec 06, 2001 3:41 pm

Excursion is 100% correct, there are no blanking plates, and there are no distributer keys in the camshafts..

You wouldn`t be able to map it either so its pretty much pointless if u want power..

[ This Message was edited by: snake on 2001-12-06 14:41 ]

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