T3 or not to T3...

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T3 or not to T3...

Postby MarkRS2K on Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:25 am

....that is the question?

Im making a nice 200bhp at 16psi on my t2 hybrid. Would i receive any increase in bhp or torque from a T3, would a hybrid T3 be much better as all my engine internals are standard.

Plus with the escort manifold and exhaust downpipe how much am i looking at for the conversion.

And would i need to have it tuned again?

Anyone in the local area got a T3'd frst that fancies taking me out for a spin in so i can get the feel of it, lag etc....

Thanks :)
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Postby Oranoco on Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:20 pm

T3 on my Fiesta was without doubt the best thing I did. The extra lag is barely noticable (providing you don't use a .48 housing) and it pulls hard and clean all the way through the revs without running out of puff like the T2.

I see no arguement to retain the T2 other than originality.
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Postby MarkRS2K on Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:29 pm

does the .48 housing come on the hybrid models? Would standard T3 be sufficient or not.

What was your spec and what boost were you running mate?

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Postby Excursion on Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:28 pm

I really hate the T2, ruins the car no matter what variant it is!
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Postby Oranoco on Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:48 pm

The .48 housing is on satge 3 Hybrid T3's. TBH I still use a standard exhaust housing on my 150mph S2 :lol:
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Postby MarkRS2K on Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:37 am

so a standard T3 will be fine then? What bhp/torque gains will i see? what boost did you run when it was on your frst?

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Postby Oranoco on Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:28 pm

You won't see power and torque gains you will just have aturbo that can flow much larger volumes of air. Where in say 4th as the revs climb to 4500rpm the T2 starts to feel asthmatic the T3 will flow to keep it pulling all the way to the limiter.

Still have the T3 on the Fiesta. I couldn't make my mind up whether to have a Fiesta or Escort RS Turbo so I have one of each :lol:
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Postby MarkRS2K on Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:08 pm

well thats just greedy :lol:

Whats the spec on your frst then mate?

so basically ill be able to use my power higher up the rev range?

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Postby Oranoco on Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:46 pm

There's a bit more to it than that. If your at a pub meet or show I'm at I would be more than willing to take you for a blat so you can see for yourself.

Spec of my Fiesta at present is:

Stage 2 T3 hybrid
-31 actuator
Beige injectors
195 Chip
K&N cone filter
Magnex exhaust
Oil breather
16psi

The head was also completely overhauled by Ford less than 10k miles ago. The previous owner cherished the car. :aviator:
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Postby MarkRS2K on Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:49 am

why not turn up to the ace cafe on monday? :D

If not i hold you to it mate, cheers for the info :)
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Postby Oranoco on Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:51 pm

In the process of moving house mate so the missus has banned all the car fun apart from the track day at the end of the month :(

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Postby 285Andy on Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:36 pm

i found the small exhaust housing on my old t3 helped make the car much more responsive than what i have now. it came on boost at around 3000 and kept on pulling. now got .48 housing and it now hits boost at a smidge over 4000 rpm (doh!) atleast i can launch it harder now (i have to :lol: ) id change back if i could be bothered but now im used to it, its not really a issue :)
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Postby GavStyli on Sun Feb 12, 2006 3:15 pm

ask your buddy danny, i drove my car quite hard to fitp when he was in it.
our cars have almost the same power output but mine with a T3 with .48 housing and yours with the T2.
peak power from the T3 will be higher. youll get bit more lag but power will feel stronger once on boost.
T2 is all low down power and runs out of puff quicker.
i say stick with the T2 untill it breaks unless your greedy like most of us!
you wont benefit that much unless you go for a live map.
upto u :)
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Postby dannyboy on Sun Feb 12, 2006 4:38 pm

Good advice Gav, it did feel strong and pull very well Mark, although at the time I was concentrating more on not dropping your camera out the window at xxxmph :lol:
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Postby Dave_B on Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:38 pm

thought has crossed my mind as well mark, but like you i want to go out in a fiesta with t3,

mate too me out in his escort at 250 brake, and the boost pulls well all the way through.

but atm im happy with the hybrid t2, and doesnt seem to run out of puff up the rev range.

think that a t28 might be a comprimise?

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