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[Pastieman]

Yeah as jay says they are a nice motor but an st2/3 would be 100% on the shopping list before these !!!

[jonyb4]

ofcourse with little evidence form the real world to back this next sentence up

but if i were to buy a tidy family car, sorry to the ST170, id go for the mondeo ST (mk3.. but id settle for a ST24)

[Pastieman]

Good call but the misses won't drive a mondeo lol

[jonyb4]

let her try a vectra.. she soon will see theyre not all bad

[Ratspeed]

After driving both, in the real world there's not much difference performance wise between these and the 2.0 esp
That's why I opted against the 170. With the extra insurance costs etc for the small gains it didn't weigh up.
Still, lovely cars though.

[Pastieman]

Agree with that we had a 2.0 Ghia and changed to the st170 tbh I feel no difference nice to have a 6 speed box and leather recaros tho

[Ratspeed]

Yeah, I am feeling the need for some st recaros for my esp

[jayrs]

I was tempted with minded st200 but it came down to size, I wanted the focus as it was smaller and tbh, better looking

In hine sight, the 2 litre ghost would of been just as good, but when I was looking there didn't seem to be much price difference, the sporty diesel one was another I was really tempted with, but even then that was more expensive lol so opted for the 170, but as said insurance was a bit of a shocker, tbh it wasn't too bad but more than I expected it to be, the biggest fcuker was it was cheaper in the wife's name than mine LOL and that was using less NBC too

[Ratspeed]

The cheapest quote I got for a 170 was nearly 800 quid! f**k that!

[jayrs]

Damn even mine was cheaper than that lol

[andymac]

but if i were to buy a tidy family car, sorry to the ST170, id go for the mondeo ST (mk3.. but id settle for a ST24)

Having owned an ST200 I can say that when they run well, they're not bad, but they're a complete c*nt to get engine spares for since the old 2.5 is more or less consigned to the history books as far as ford is concerned. Also the ride is s**t, the fuel economy laughable and the power delivery was "meh".

HOWEVER

The boot space is great, the seats and driving position are still among the best I've come across for tall / big blokes, everything about it is really, really nice to touch, hold and feel. Its lack of tactile s**t used to catch me unawares at times and I'd occasionally forget it was a Ford, but then five minutes later something would break and I'd be like "oh, yeah. F*cksticks Ford".

It's redeeming party trick though, was the noise. Find a tunnel (or mountain pass) and give it some beans - for a few brief seconds you'll completely forgive the million and one complaints as the induction roar and bellowing exhaust note echo around you.

It's now a cube thanks to a near-asleep audi driving doctor (you know, the variety that prescribe medicines). Gone but not forgotten.

I'd have an ST220 in a heartbeat though, preferably an estate but I'd settle for a hatch.

(Sorry Jay)

[jonyb4]

aww yes!


please dont get me going on the soudn of a V6... (but again please do )

my craving for a 2.8i capri is beyond healthy!
ever since i heard one up close that had a good exhaust system on it made me wet with excitement

[jayrs]

Na I know what ya mean andy, the sound if the 170 is nice, even if it sounds faster than its going
It's good enough for me dispute what I've said about it plus being the Isle of Wight I'm restricted to road space lol so it's fine.

I will agree to the driving position and comfort of aimed I I've drive a few and and really like them, almost got a st24 many years ago but it was to higher priced for me at the time

[Pastieman]

jay

My st170 feels so much better to drive once i changed the IMRC "Inlet Manifold Runner Control" unit

check out this thread

http://fordfocusworld.com/forums/viewto ... f=25&t=577

night and day matey

you might have the same trouble

[jayrs]

Cheers bud, I will have a look when I get a chance.

Ingot no fault codes or anything showing on the dash to indicate a fault, I assume you didn't also but had the problem shown on that thread?

So tell me mate, how different does the car feel now?

[Pastieman]

I had a fault code that I couldn't clear with me equipment...

people have had this with but no fault code were the flaps can stick inside the inlet but the unit works or the arm snaps on the inlet, so the unit works and ecu thinks it does but the flaps stay shut!!

I have not driven it yet mate but the misses say its a different car and was very impressed what a difference it made !

[jayrs]

Well it's worth a look fella, when I get chance to tinker I will have a look and let you know if and what I find

[Pastieman]

The clutch on my st170 has started to slip lol

Bloody fords !!!

[jayrs]

Lol ah mate it don't rain but it pours eh, I'm deffo gunna need to do mine at some point, I reckon the flywheel will need doing too though

[Pastieman]

Yeah I will do the flywheel at the same time too matey.... Also need to do the timing belt this year

[Ratspeed]

Also need to do the timing belt this year

+1

[jayrs]

That's not so bad though when in comparison it to the clutch lol

[Pastieman]

No but still money in the wrong direction lol that could go towards the M3 fund lol

[jayrs]

I hear ya mate, every time I think about the clutch and flywheel on the focus I think to my self, that's some willwoods and changed for the rs LOL

Mind you I shouldn't complain, the focus has more use in 3 days than the rs gets in about 2 years (excluding ford fair run) so best spend where it's needed

[jayrs]

jay

My st170 feels so much better to drive once i changed the IMRC "Inlet Manifold Runner Control" unit

check out this thread

http://fordfocusworld.com/forums/viewto ... f=25&t=577

night and day matey

you might have the same trouble

Alright mate, don't suppose you saved any of the info from that link did you? It's telling
Me page is not available anymore

[Pastieman]

I'll dig out another link matey for you in abit!!!

I have a cracked down pipe on mine as it is blowing and sucking in abit if air and throwing the eml every now and then !!! And it's messing with the lamba sensors !!

Need to get on eBay and order one lol

Bloody motors !!!

Oh and I have bought myself another BMW

[jayrs]

Cool cheers fella, done a lot of looking aroung on the web and found a few bits but from whst i remember no decent pics like what were in the link?

I still don't have a fault code or anything but I just wanna look at it, got trouble with pinking at the mo, checked out a lot
Of things, again no fault code, at the mo I've narrowed it down toy first thought, crap fuel lol run it with some injector cleaner in other day and it was a lot better, no pinking that I head and was up on power low down, put a tenner of morrisons unleAded in yeast erec and its crappy again, gunna run that down and put something out in and see how it goes
Shame about the down pipe, can't you weld it?

Another BMW? How come lol

[Pastieman]

Jut put up a little thread with pictures of the M matey always wanted one when they came out and missed my M3 Evo !!

Well that box sorted out the power problem for me but now the down pipe is playing up the fuel mixture so it's down on power slightly again !!!

I think it can be welded just a bloody pain to get at it on the motor !!! So it will have to be take off

Happy days !!! Lol

[jayrs]

I'm gunna take My box apart and check it over, Sod's law says it will play up in winter when I don't want to work on it so jut as well have a look now lol

Your be alright getting tht off mate, we just love working on car LOL taking the piss, I fcuking hate working on exhausts lol

Ill have a look for ya thread mate.

[Pastieman]

I can just hear the manifold studs snapping now lol

[jayrs]

don't say that! That's always my worst fear when I do a manifold

[Pastieman]

Great job for me next week lol

[jayrs]

Hope you ain't jinxed it lol

[Pastieman]

We shall see Thursday lol

[Pastieman]

Still have not done it !!! Took a mates work van to service and Mot it!!!

What a head ache job it has turned out to be!!! The injectors don't want to fire up due to no pressure in the fuel rail!!!

Possible fuel stop solenoid given up the ghost or the high pressure pump has a snapped shaft!!!! Damn it !!!

I hate motors sometimes diesel powered ones at best