tuning 1.6 si zetec...

CVH and Zetec tuning, suspension and braking mods.

tuning 1.6 si zetec...

Postby jaynottz on Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:44 am

hi i have just recently bought an si n although shes fun 2 drive i wna perk her up a bit..technicalitys nt an issue..jus wna no wt cheapest and most effectiv cheap mods are..if anyone nos if rst shocks springs wil fit on si then let me no aswell.. cheers :o) jay :bonkers:
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Postby HawkeVIPER on Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:57 am

Uh... I understood around 1/4 of what you wrote... want to update it with English?
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Postby jaynottz on Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:01 am

sorry about that.. :D i just bought a 1.6 si on a n reg.. would like to find out the cheapest mods for power increase, mid range mainly, maybe bit better acceleration. i read spec on engine and site said it is a hard to tweak engine but i want to get the best i can out of it but for limited money. cheers. jay
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Postby lucasdemoley on Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:02 am

Hey, where abouts in wales are you from?

As for the si. With the 1.6 engine there isnt mutch tunning potential. Best bet is to stick an induction kit on it and get a decent exhaust system on it. After this you could fit a custome manifold, but if you want decent power think about a 2.0 engine conversion, which will take you up to about 130bhp.

As for shocks and springs, i dont think the rst items will fit, although the rs1800 ones should, alhtough i think the rs1800 and si ones are the same (someone will point out if im wrong!). You can fit larger cosworth brakes to improve stopping (i kept overheating my brakes).

Are you after styling or speed/handling?

HAve a look in the guides section for how to fit like the brakes and how to do other mods, or do a seach on si tunning and you'll find loadsa posts!
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Postby HawkeVIPER on Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:03 am

I think the general consensus to increase power output on a 1.6si is to replace it with a 2.0, as far as the bang/buck factor goes.
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Postby jaynottz on Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:07 am

im from pembrokeshire. (originally from nottingham east midlands :) ) want around 100bhp. im not going down transplant route as i did that with my nova. i just want the power to be layed out a bit better. are chips for the si any good? also i have big brake convo on car already, tarox. not looking for stylew..just better power. cheers lads. jay
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Postby lucasdemoley on Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:13 am

decat exhaust and induction kit should increase power well. chips are ok. Apart from this theyr isnt much really. You could fit bike throttle bodies with megasquirts, your probs looking at say £700. Not sur eont the power increase this would give to a 1.6 though.

btw, engine change on si to 2.0 is really really easy, you dont have to chaneg the loom. you basicly need the engine, ecu, maf and tb

If your down that way check out pm-cc.co.uk and wildwestcrew.com.
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Postby Oranoco on Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:17 pm

Tuning the 1.6 engine in the Si is a non starter as it just doesn't respond well to tuning. Pop an induction kit and an exhasut back box on and stop there as anything further will cost you money and achieve very little.

No FRST shocks won't fit your Si as the front hubs are different to those on the earlier FRST.
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Postby jimmyesh on Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:22 pm

You could get the 1.6 to just over 100bhp with the usual filter, full exhaust system. decent exhaust manifold, chip/rolling road to re-map it to suit.

It will be a few quid (more than the cost of buying a healthy 2-litre) but I understand you fully, not everyone has got the facilities /knowledge & confidence/ tools + equipment to just "bung a 2-litre" in in the middle of winter! Plus if the 1.6 is healthy and you're only after a 10-15bhp increase then stay with it :wink:
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Postby jaynottz on Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:22 pm

cheers..i have the knowledge facilities etc just not the cash .. :/ but yer 10 15 bhp is what im after..just a better running acceleration path.. my si has done 34,500 miles so no point whatsoever of changing.. :)
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Postby lucasdemoley on Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:06 pm

U sure its not 135k?

My engine change to a 2.0 cost roughly £500. That includes the engine, changing cambelt, water pump ect and all oild ect. Basicly for the cost of a decent induction kit and zorst and chip you could have 2.0 power.
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Postby jaynottz on Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:09 pm

na its 35k my dads mate only used it to go from where we live to devon once a month.... and i grabbed it up for 875quid :D i dont want rigmarole of engine changing..done it once..just want engine to be bit more perky.. jay..i put c20xe in corsa.. was ok but not worth it in long run of shell lifetime expectancy.
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Postby si 16valver on Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:40 pm

http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQf ... symcox2005

check that out theres your decat and exhaust for you and as stated in the description if you want the 3inch its quiet whereas the 4inch stainless one is loud not over loud just a nice vroom if thats the way to put it :rolleyes:
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Postby si 16valver on Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:16 pm

now these bodies and management would put it up abit wouldnt like to guess but way over 100bhp and you could always get em and then if you ever decided to go swap route swap the bodies onto the 2.0

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... &rd=1&rd=1
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Postby jaynottz on Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:45 am

sound lads! i bought gold superchip and de cat n cold feed. do i need to have it remapped for chip or is it plug and play?? my misus just bout me a set of fondmetal alloys to! buzzin! 205/50/16. can i lower it with them on or?? cheers for help lads. jay.. and can sum1 do me a signature aswel plz?? ta
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Postby jaynottz on Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:45 am

sound lads! i bought gold superchip and de cat n cold feed. do i need to have it remapped for chip or is it plug and play?? my misus just bout me a set of fondmetal alloys to! buzzin! 205/50/16. can i lower it with them on or?? cheers for help lads. jay.. and can sum1 do me a signature aswel plz?? ta
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Postby lucasdemoley on Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:09 am

You can lower it abit although i think you may need to roll your arches slightly.
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Postby jaynottz on Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:11 am

so i wont catch spring seats? cool sounds great. i got 30mm springs. that ok?? cheers pal.. do u no if i need 2 take to rolling road after fitting plug n play superchip?? ta..jay
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Postby lucasdemoley on Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:22 am

As far as im aware 17's scrub the spring seats but 16's should be ok. With a 30mm drop you might get way without having to roll the arches, put the wheels on and if they do scrub its not a huge job to sort the arches.

As for the chip I dont think you have to go onto a rolling road, they are what they say, plug and play, although if you have fairly easy access to a rolling road it can be handy to diagnose any problem spots int he rev range ect.
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Postby jaynottz on Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:27 am

wt about the de cat? wil it effect performance at all? also do u no the problem with the cold idle? i seen someone else having same problem of car jerking eraticly wen cold and sits at 2000 revs wen pulling up to roundabout etc when cold until warmed up and then its fine??? cheers .jay
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Postby taylor5788 on Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:40 pm

you might fail MOT on emissions without a cat due to the new laws brought in for cars made after 1992 i think :-? (someone correct me about that 1)
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Postby jaynottz on Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:10 pm

lads i just fitted 16s with 205/50/16 tyres and they rub loooooadz!! ground the wheel balance weights bk and ground off bit of side wall and doesnt rub much but i think i will be fitting 195 45s when tyres wear out..best option..jay
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Postby taylor5788 on Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:15 pm

yea you deff shoulda gone for 45's lol

you sure its safe to start rubbin away the tyre?
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Postby jaynottz on Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:17 pm

i just ground bk lettering and its better. rubs slightly on full lock and going over bumps but smaller tyres in future will solve that right.. jay
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Postby taylor5788 on Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:18 pm

you shoulda gone for RS1800 alloys mate....much nicer :wink:
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Postby jaynottz on Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:23 pm

what they like? they five spoke and with centre cap as if so i just took them off and selling them..14"... jay
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Postby Oranoco on Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:45 am

taylor5788 :yea you deff shoulda gone for 45's lol

you sure its safe to start rubbin away the tyre?


Be better with 195/40/16's. Leave the cat on as you will gain nothing from that engine from its removal. Stick a back box on and an air filter and stop spending there. You can throw pots of cash at the 1.6 White Elephant and still be next to no further along in the power stakes. Save your cash and either change the car or perform th etried and tested 2.0 engine swap. Trust me this will pay dividends in the future, save you cash and the results will be far more impressive
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