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[JsTurbo]

Ive just got a fiesta RS1800.
what would be the best way of tunig this beast to maybe push 170 or even 190bhp.

Can i turbocharge it with a t2 from a fiesta turbo.
how easy/hard to be and how much am i looking at getting a T2 fitted.

cheers boys,

James

[Fezzy Turbo]

It would be ceaper for you to buy a FRST engine and do that up.

cheers

[Mav Singh]

if you decide to go for a fiesta turbo engine you may as well scrap the whole idea since the engines are not reliable enough for daily use COMPARED to a jap turbo engine such as 200sx/supra/skyline. oh and u can puck up a J reg skyline 62k on the clock R32 2ltr turbo 215bhp monster for around the £3500 mark a much better idea than to go with a fiesta turbo. after me bro had an S2 escort turbo and a fiesta turbo and the maintainance costs were sky high and reliability cr@p me bro switched over to jap cars, 200sx being my favourite, when my insurance no cliams is built up i will also get a 200sx, (300zx being too thirsty on fuel and high on insurance) jap turbo engines can take a beating compared to ford.
I just hate it when i get beat by crappy old civics that are 1.6 and pack 158bhp as standard at least the Vtec pays off, what the hell does zetec do.. f all!

[MarkFRST]

if you decide to go for a fiesta turbo engine you may as well scrap the whole idea since the engines are not reliable enough for daily use COMPARED to a jap turbo engine such as 200sx/supra/skyline. oh and u can puck up a J reg skyline 62k on the clock R32 2ltr turbo 215bhp monster for around the £3500 mark a much better idea than to go with a fiesta turbo.

Frst engines are perfectly fine for daily use, if you look after it. Ask Fezzy turbo ^^ who just posted, his has done 130k+ used daily with minimal mechanical breakdowns.
Mines still going and hasn't cost me loads in maintenance.
If they do break you can pop down fords for a part. not wait 3 months for it to come from japan if you have a skyline and the parts costs 10x more.
Depends what car you want really. - if you don't like yer fez as it sounds that way, sell it and buy a jap car, sunny, cherry, some kind of datsun lol.

[AdrianFRST]

if you decide to go for a fiesta turbo engine you may as well scrap the whole idea since the engines are not reliable enough for daily use COMPARED to a jap turbo engine such as 200sx/supra/skyline. oh and u can puck up a J reg skyline 62k on the clock R32 2ltr turbo 215bhp monster for around the £3500 mark a much better idea than to go with a fiesta turbo. after me bro had an S2 escort turbo and a fiesta turbo and the maintainance costs were sky high and reliability cr@p me bro switched over to jap cars, 200sx being my favourite, when my insurance no cliams is built up i will also get a 200sx, (300zx being too thirsty on fuel and high on insurance) jap turbo engines can take a beating compared to ford.
I just hate it when i get beat by crappy old civics that are 1.6 and pack 158bhp as standard at least the Vtec pays off, what the hell does zetec do.. f all!

Your wonderfully reliable Japanese machine only has to go wrong once and then it's ££££ time... 215bhp isn't much in something the size of a Skyline.

Also go to your local scrappy and see what bits you can get for it at the drop of a hat. What's that? Nothing?

Vtecs are great abouve 6500rpm but a bit limp below that, what do you need to spend on them to get 280bhp? £3k on a Zetec and you're there.

Hmmm...

Anyway, the T2 is to small for an 1800 really. Do a search for "zetec AND turbo" and you should pull up some info. As mentioned above you're looking at about £3k for a decent job. Add a bit on for some extra bits to sort the handling and you should have a rather nice setup then.

[Mexi]

also isnt paul only running about 220bhp? and running a sub 5 second to 60?

not sure on jap specs but aint 400-odd bhp needed for that?

the joys of owning a ford

[Mav Singh]

mexi u are correct almost there, why is it jap cars need loads of power to do fast 0-60 and quarter miles but ford can be equally as fast with a few hundred horse power less?? does torque have something to do with it? can't be power to weight cuz japs strip out thier cars to be light as a feather. explain to me someone?
but htere is no way in the world i can keep up with Wang down the street with his 1.6civic. he got 158bhp standard and ford power vs jap power looses every time. he even beats RS1800s so i got no clue there.

[saqmaster]

The RS1800 zetec isn't really ideal for turbocharging.. You'd be better off with going with some mild engine mods (cams), and a set of throttle modies + appropriate management... Expect it to cost you around £3k... you may see 180-190bhp from this...

[chumkila]

The RS1800 zetec isn't really ideal for turbocharging.. You'd be better off with going with some mild engine mods (cams), and a set of throttle modies + appropriate management... Expect it to cost you around £3k... you may see 180-190bhp from this...

[Sunil_FiestaRS_16V]

ive got an RS1800 and i want to get it near on 200bhp. I have two options as i see it without turbo or supercharger.

1. 2.0 bottom end, throttle bodies, cams, ecu,injectors, head work [ERRR] see somewhere from 175-200bhp.

2. 2.0 bottom end, nitrous + strengthining engine to take nitrous relibily. [ERRR] see over 200 with a 75 jet.

im probably gonna go for no.2 as its cheaper and my fuel bills will be lower as the power isnt constant but will still shift without the nos.

[Project]

There seems to be an awful lot of questionably accurate information being posted here...

200bhp with even a 2.0L engine is very, very bloody hard to achieve without the use of certain tricks (VVTi/VCT for example).

From what I can gather, traditional engine tuners work by designing a bottom end to take the power, a head to suit the bottom end, cams to suit the head, and management to match, but that's a bit too vague to be of any use whatsoever - sorry!

One thing you might be well off bearing in mind is the sheer amount of technological research which went into getting 170bhp out of the Focus 2.0L engine - variable length inlet strakes, a huge amount of headwork, and some pretty funky management.

I'm sure Mark Stewart has plenty more information on this should anyone be seriously interested in doing this conversion

[saqmaster]

I can assure you, my facts are not gossip.. They're from cars that have been in the workshop..

200bhp is a reasonable power figure for a 2.0/2.1 zetec, mild cams, 45mm throttle bodies and appropriate management..

The work that went into the ST170 was work designed around making it a decent all-round road-car, with performance.. 200bhp from a 2.0 as above won't make you car too friendly down the bottom end.. It's a compromise..

[Fezzy Turbo]

Mav Singh.....

Your mate Wang will beat RS1800's as they have about 130bhp, your mate has 30bhp more

The FRST CVH can be a VERY reliable engine if looked after. Regular oil changes and not bouncing it off the redline every gear change will see the engine purr along for ages. I should know

As Adrian said, one thing wrong with a VTEC engine and your looking at big money to fix.....oh! and you cant do much in improving performance, they are already at the limit.
As for your 0-60 quote on Fords with less power doing the same a Jap cars, well thats rubbish. It's the other way about I have seen less powerfull Subaru's beat powerfull cossies on 0-60 and on the road. Thats more likely due to weight and aerodynamics.

[Mav Singh]

mexi stated that some guys ford needed 200bhp to do sub 5sec 0-60 and he said that jap cars need 400+ bhp to achieve that.
wonder how a mitsibushi FTO mivec engine gets 200bhp out of its 2 ltr and 6cylinders and can give loads of torque throughout its entire rev range?

[Fezzy Turbo]

Mav singh.....

You answered your own question, if the FTO has 6 cylinders it will give good power and torque throughout the rev range. Probably more than a 4 cylinder cossie engine.

[Project]

I can assure you, my facts are not gossip.. They're from cars that have been in the workshop..

200bhp is a reasonable power figure for a 2.0/2.1 zetec, mild cams, 45mm throttle bodies and appropriate management..

The work that went into the ST170 was work designed around making it a decent all-round road-car, with performance.. 200bhp from a 2.0 as above won't make you car too friendly down the bottom end.. It's a compromise..

Furry muff! I don't for a second doubt you - I'm sorry if you got that impression. My real point was simply to stress that n/a tuning is an expensive business, as is any form of tuning, but expecting over 200bhp from even the 2.0L Zetec will be far from cheap or easy and you will be reading a lot of books and doing a lot of homework to get the best from your engine.

Peace out

[xfactor]

Our Company demo car was an RS1800 it now has a reworked head with uprated cams a 2.0 mondie bottom end, throtttle bodies cossie blues and running on omex mgmt, the first time this was RR'd it made a true 176bhp however we found that the current exhaust system was very restrictive and we are now in the process of changin that along with a few other things. Expect to get 190 -200 TRUE bhp out of this sort of set up.

If your interested we can carry this sort of work out on your car so let me know

[craig pg]

These figures you boys are quoting seem to be alot of hard work and cash for small improvements!!the rally boys regulary get 200 plus break from the super 16 puma and over 300 from the 20l zetec so where can we get our mitts on one of these babys, surly someone must break rally cars!!!cos colin mcrea used to bend enough!"!

[Muzza]

These figures you boys are quoting seem to be alot of hard work and cash for small improvements!!the rally boys regulary get 200 plus break from the super 16 puma and over 300 from the 20l zetec so where can we get our mitts on one of these babys, surly someone must break rally cars!!!cos colin mcrea used to bend enough!"!

dunoo about you, but i couldnt afford to rebuild my engine once or twice a year
nice idea though

[zetec16]

Jap is Crap.

many horses but all handicap



but ford is the power dream

[chumkila]

@ Jap Crap.

[heeman10]

Just to cut in with another "my dad's car" blah blah story....his 2 litre Zetec's getting 227bhp, injected, not turbocharged. I don't know how much the work cost, but my uncle reckons the engine and the work cost around £10k. It is one sweet engine, pulls from 1,000rpm, revs through to 9,200rpm, it is a true work of art Very impressed by it. That's what gives the car its 3.5 0-60 time!

[chumkila]

Just to cut in with another "my dad's car" blah blah story....his 2 litre Zetec's getting 227bhp, injected, not turbocharged. I don't know how much the work cost, but my uncle reckons the engine and the work cost around £10k. It is one sweet engine, pulls from 1,000rpm, revs through to 9,200rpm, it is a true work of art Very impressed by it. That's what gives the car its 3.5 0-60 time!

Got any pics of it dude??

[heeman10]

Fraid not mate. If you ever go to any hillclimbs, let me know which ones and I'll tell you if/when we'll be there! lol He let me take it round three sisters circuit on a track day...on my own! I've worked on it with him, so it was nice to try it myself! It was pretty breath-taking. Pulling out of the pits, then it's all just a blur from then

[Canwell]

i take it thats a glass fibre kit car then???

[heeman10]

It's a Caterham mate. Had a 1.6 Lotus, that broke at Croft, high G corner, all the oil went to one side and one piston on the other side disagreed with that! Then the Zetec went in, dry sump. Then at the 3 Hills Challenge on the Isle of Mann (3 long-ish road sections) a front tyre blew and chucked him into a wall at around 90mph (on-board footage wasn't nice ), then we had a new front end stuck on, new panels all round, injected the engine, getting another 10bhp, and painted the whole mofo yellow! I tell you, no-one walks down the street without turning round when they hear the racket, then see the yellow! You'll see it kicking bottom around the country during the summer hopefully!