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[garry_noble]

HI guys well ive been toyin with the idea of turbo'in the zetec nd now im trying to make it reality so if anyone is able to help me then it would be great, i really need direction in most areas so i can get rough idea on prices and [ERRR] i need



welll her we go .


wats best capacity to run 2l / 2.1

[ERRR] pistons to use/ conrods, ect,

turbo, feeds ect,

[ERRR] injectors do i need, fuel pumps and any other info, ?

if i was to run uprated cams too is there any kit in perticular that i should use or do i need to get custom ons made

does battery and tray have to be relocated????

i really need a complete list of parts needed ect so i can give it to the guy i kno who bores engines ect so he can look thro nd posssible find different parts to use or even bettta ones so i need rough ideas on compression ratios ect!! as tbh i have had look around but nt really found anywhere , where all this information is available!





ideally i want turbo prject to be as cheap as possible but i dnt want to comprmise realiabilty so thats why i dnt want to use shim plate in the head/block . i want to have nice healthy power output aswell ! and maybe bit of room for inprovement but for time being i jst one good base output lol !!



thanksso much guys look forward to ur replies of help!

[HCS PIMP]

well cam wise u want a turbo cam for the 2.0 engine id contact kent, piper, new man or any of the other cam specialists and ask their opnions as to what cam they think would be good also keep in mind what rpm u want the engine to do as this affects how much u do / spend

engien wise id stick with 2.0 as rs cossy did so u should

turbo id go t3 with a escort manifold tap your head to fit the mandifold or go arear six and buy a manifold that moves the turbo over the gearbox

the battery should live in the boot for more room

ecu wise id get megasquirt or u could try my friend at rca he has his own stand alone protype ecu hes built a saxo is pnp now but ford would need some work

if u want the project doing cheap is quiet easy

150 for 2.0 engine at scrappy/ turbo id budget 400 as u dont want a rebuild, rs1800 manifold works or use rover 220 one budget 100/ injectors beige injectors seem popular

pistons wise id go for wossner rods and pistons at 895 then u can build up to 400bhp

crank and block id get rebore to fit pistons and balance the crank no need for knife edge crank unless u want 8krpm

id personally id get ligthened pullies and vernier pullies get more power outta it and not loose out

clutch wise id got of ap paddle clutch as it will take the abuse and heemans takes 311bhp so good basis to build on

gerabox id get a diesel box same as the rs1800 take to the gerabox man fit a s2 erst lsg and a 2.8 transit van gearbox bearings then the gerabox will take a bumming lol

leads and plugs id talk to nology or split fire or ngk or bosch but make sure to check the temp they'll take or ull melt em

id map for 98octane less chance of pinking and engine detonation

head wise id regrind valve seats, fit new springs, and flow the head to match the manfiolds

brakes id say cossy escort ones or hi spec 4pots, again ap, brembo, porsha all do same job

suspension ud really want coilovers to take the abuse same for the wishbones ass jano at oddkids for that area hes a track god

thinks thats all anymore help needed give me a bell 0796408299

[luca]

everything is dependant on the power figure you want to acheive..

[HCS PIMP]

just cause u've been in fast ford leave me alone lol

[garry_noble]

just to mention im already running 2litre in the si

ive gt the management sorted for the car its megasquirt ! with the adaption loom for zetec jst needa buy wide lambda


as for the cams im unsure on what to run i kno if i get cams i will get the vernier pulleys too for tuning

im runnig rs1800 manifold wit 2litre tb so manifold is sorted too as for exhaust manifold/turbo manifold ive gt ERST one with zetec fitment!

all i really need to sort out is

pistons (ive been advised on calibra turbo ones wit zetec con rods(standard can with stand 270bhp ive been told ) or get forged rods so can handle more power)
was gonna get engine bored out, redo all head work seating valves again new seals ect, nd port it little

i was planning on get some sort of paddle clutch or something, and also get LSD GEARBOX FRM SERIES 2 ESCORT

only thing i havent sorted out 100% is where the breather ect are coming through and where frm and where abouts i can get hold of attachments
also injectors (ive been advised on nissan s13 side fed ones)

and need cossie fuel pump


im nt doing this on tight budget but ideally i wanna keep costs as low as i can !

if u gt any pics tht might help me with things pelase send me them and any tips of things that u found hard ect would help me out !


[ERRR] sort of power should i hope to get frm turbo'd fiesta running cams

[luca]

just cause u've been in fast ford leave me alone lol

Im only helping out all you have said is 110% valid and informative but to give a final spec list etc of parts.

Need to decide on what BHP figure is wanted.

Spec changes drastically at certain bhp points...

200
300
350
400
450

All of which require different parts to cope with the power, transmission - suspension - brakes - manifolds - engine managment....

[garry_noble]

not 100% on the output power really im nt spendin mega bucks on it .
ive gt megasquirt management! frm that i wanna build an engine wit good solid output power but withouth the mega bucks bill at end of it

for first build i want simplest options ! like straight fittin injectors in zetec rail , ect

im gonna am it nd that!

ive got most of the brakes mods done(i run cossie already all im doin nw is makin mk5 servo conversion so i get firmer pedal)
suspension im goin frm spax to collies of some sort


rest is really up to me ! and [ERRR] i can lay my hands on cheap !

[ukgaz]

Good guide to look at is http://www.fiestaturbo.com/articles/zetecturbo/

[SiZT]

decide what you want first!!!!

C20LET, 3SGTE (I think) and SR20DET pistons can be used but need the little end on the rod boring out depending on application. Injectors depends on inlet manifold used, turbo and exhaust manifold depends on the power your going for... no matter what I'd get double valve springs fitted at least and if your doing it on a budget go for 2litre inlet cam and 105/115 spec exhaust cam to get a nice early spool up

[garry_noble]

im running rs1800 inlet manifold wit 2.1 bored out engine , so im gonna run c20let turbo pistons forged,
erst exhaust manifold wit possiby t3, largesh front mounted coller at bottom, wit some sort of uprated cams, kent cams or somethings, vernier pulleys, erst lsd gearbox


but i want to keep zetec fuel rail mate thats why im interested in what injectors i can get hold of to fit that flow fast enough

power output ive nt calculated but 200bhp would be lovely starting point !

i will probably get some sort of head work done before i fit engine into car tooo

[SiZT]

200SX & Scooby injectors can all be had cheap because there owners upgrade them, these should be fine for 250+, the real weak point in what you've listed is the gearbox, the IB5 can last with power outputs from anywhere between 200 - 250 on a Zetec Turbo

[Ruishy1]

instead of going for custom cams, which TBH at your spec level is not required, do some mixing and matching,
IIRC ( someone will need to help here, not worked with fords for a few years ) the 1.8 zetec exhaust cam is an upgrade
The injectors from an SR20DET, will flow enough for just under 300 bhp, and there are loads on the bay as the 200 owners always upgrade
Again headwork is overkill, merely port match, and remove the casting marks and a thorough degrease and thatr will do, the head is fine untill your after circa 400 bhp.


And rather than making your car fast, make sure it can stop and handle. Cars that can stop and handle will almost always beat more powerful, sloppy handling cars roud a track

Zetec s rear beam, St170 front brakes, rear discs isnt really needed, some polybushes, and coilovers, with your alignment done and it will transform the car

[garry_noble]

handling wise ive sorted most of it really !

i run spax kit atm but im going coilovers!
i am fully polybushing whole car, and i run cossie front brakes!!


i need side fed injectors tho theres nt alot of them on ebay tho .

[Ruishy1]

nissan 200sx SR20DET injectors are what you need, they are side fed

[dangerousdave]

dragging up old post again but.... i am also building a buget low boost turbo from a 2 litre zetec and i will be running ofac management with only a t25 for the time being as i have spent a fortune on the cvh to find the engine i bought totally shagged! so would these side fed injectors be suitable for me? or should i mod the inlet to fit top fed injectors??


cheers guys

Dave

EDIT: sorry guys just found there expensive and only 10.7 ohms anyone else have any ideas or is it just a case of modding the xr/rs rail??

cheers again

[joeRs]

If your using nissan 200sx SR20DET injector you will need to swap the O rings with the 2.0 zetec ones so they will fit. And I think you can use the injectors from a Skyline if I remember rightly, correct me if Im wrong. These might be easiers to get hold of.