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by **Sphinx** on Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:04 pm

For all u techies, i was just thinkin, for that same price as gettin some uprated discs and pads, i could get some cossie brakes or similar.
So, i have a lot of questions. If i were 2 change my front brakes completely for cossie ones on mondy ones etc, what do i do/need?
I'm guessin the calipers, discs, pads and mounting bracket?
What brakes fit from other fords? obviously they'd hav 2 b from a car with the 4 stud fit, not the new 5 stud, but what about offset? does this make a difference with brakes? will the centre of the disc b different (thicker or thinner) or summit? Also, would it b cost affective because i'd have 2 buy brand new cossie discs and pads or even uprated (standard size, just better compounds etc) cossie discs and pads.
I know theres allot of questions, but i'd like to know everything about changin brakes b4 i buy n e parts. This has come about because i saw gadgets for sale post where he sold Stoned some brand new brakes ( i think calipers, discs and pads, although i'm not sure) for a really good price, and i want some good front brakes so i can go for the z-s rear beam and focus brake route in the future.

Cheers

Tom

by **Stoned** on Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:25 pm

Yeah it was a good price. But I havn't tried them yet. If they turn out to be crap and I die in a car crash you can feel free to take them off the wreck :lol:

Anyhow. Mondeo ones will fit as long as they have been machined slightly like Gadgets ones. Cossies ones also fit but use washers to space things out which is a bit naff.

ST170 brakes are 300mm and apparently fit with a space plate made up. These would be awesome and the ones to get I reckon

Alternativly Escort RS2000 brakes are an upgrade but fit straight on. These are 260mm discs so not massive, but defo much better than the standard 240mm discs.

I got a set of these on mine and are fine for my current power of 150bhp but I wanted new ones for the future bhp.

by **dannyboy** on Wed Sep 10, 2003 10:32 pm

The brakes I got off Gadget are jaguar x-type calipers with focus st170 300mm disks, no spacers or anything needed, just drill out the mounting holes to 12mm.

Dan

by **Sphinx** on Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:59 pm

Cheers lads. Dan, wot i'm sayin is, u've got bigger discs rite? so therefore the mounting bracket for the caliper must need 2 b extended 2 reach the edge of the disc :-?

by **MadcatCraig** on Thu Sep 11, 2003 9:42 am

i paid £130 for my callipers then paid £108 to get them reconed.

£100 for some drilled and grooved disks

and £60 for some standard ford sierra 4x4 pads.

i got my disks and pads cheap if ure paying retail id expect to pay about £70 more

+ £30 for some braided hoses

id budget for £500 or unless you can find a cheap way of reconditioning the callipers or risking it and leave them.

The 300mm conv requires 16" wheels a good way to go if u got the room but cosworth fits straight on with longer bolts and a few spacers.

hey they can stop a huge sierra they will be fine or ure fiesta

by **dannyboy** on Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:59 pm

Sphinx, the calipers include the extended carriers, bolts, pads and everything, all brand new for £200, and new discs are bout £100 from ford. All that is needed then is some braided hoses and they are perfect.

by **Sphinx** on Fri Sep 12, 2003 12:32 am

Cheers Dan, much appreciated

by **Gadget** on Fri Sep 12, 2003 7:08 am

sphinx :Cheers lads. Dan, wot i'm sayin is, u've got bigger discs rite? so therefore the mounting bracket for the caliper must need 2 b extended 2 reach the edge of the disc

Nope, the MATCHING caliper for the 300mm disc ( ie the Focus st170 caliper ) is already done on the anchor brackets, so no brackets needed as Dan says!

Dan bought a 300mm set from me and stoned bought a 278mm kit!

by **Stoned** on Fri Sep 12, 2003 8:27 am

Are those 300mm kits duel metal Gadget, so alloy bells and metal discs?

Cos otherwise 300m metal discs have got to be pretty heavy?

by **jonzy@sw-cc.com** on Fri Sep 12, 2003 10:31 am

Ive just fitted a set of 278mm cossie's to my fiesta, so much better even with cak greenstuff pads, just goto save some cash for the new discs and pads!

Jonzy

by **BUTRE** on Sun Sep 14, 2003 11:50 am

anyone knows the size of the spacer needed for the cossie 4x4 calipers?? I want to make only one.

by **jonzy@sw-cc.com** on Wed Sep 17, 2003 3:36 pm

I used the 5 halfords penny washer method. Carriers are solid!

by TJ on Wed Sep 17, 2003 4:24 pm

I bought the washers, but ended up using a nut, as i thought it would be better, and the bolt going through it, would be more secure.

by **Fezzy Turbo** on Wed Sep 17, 2003 6:21 pm

And remember to use braided Stainless steel brake hoses

by TJ on Thu Sep 18, 2003 12:44 pm

Fezzy Turbo :And remember to use braided Stainless steel brake hoses

Bollox! Thanks, gotta phone the mechanic i knew there was summin else i wanted done while he's doing the MOT!

by **IanRST** on Thu Sep 18, 2003 6:13 pm

I am getting uprated disks to 285mm using the standard calipers and better pads, getting them from hi spec motorsport.

by **Fezzy Turbo** on Thu Sep 18, 2003 9:02 pm

TJ :
Fezzy Turbo :And remember to use braided Stainless steel brake hoses

Bollox! Thanks, gotta phone the mechanic i knew there was summin else i wanted done while he's doing the MOT!

No problem.................. i thought someone would have said earlier :rolleyes:

by **dannyboy** on Thu Sep 18, 2003 10:47 pm

No problem.................. i thought someone would have said earlier

All that is needed then is some braided hoses and they are perfect.

I did

by TJ on Fri Sep 19, 2003 12:59 pm

I got them, just hadnt fitted them
:rolleyes:

Currently being fitted
Cheers

by **Gadget** on Mon Sep 22, 2003 9:59 am

Stoned :Are those 300mm kits duel metal Gadget, so alloy bells and metal discs?

Cos otherwise 300m metal discs have got to be pretty heavy?

no mate, all 1 piece, not too heavy though

by **penfoldian** on Sun Oct 26, 2003 3:28 am

am i right to assume that all i need to do is find a old Sierra and get the bits of em with new bits to go with em?

by **Stoned** on Sun Oct 26, 2003 8:13 am

Yeah should be cool, but if the donar car has not been running for a while then it would be wise to get the calipers reconditioned.

by **Sphinx** on Mon Nov 10, 2003 10:04 pm

Bump, i wanna read all this and then come back 2 it 2moro but i've bumped it 2 here so i can find it again :lol:

by **MIK3Y** on Mon Nov 10, 2003 11:58 pm

Ive jus bought some 4x4 Cossie calipers orignal from an Escort and nearly new discs for 130!

Gonna get them fitted when she comes out in spring.

by **Stoned** on Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:58 am

MIK3Y :Ive jus bought some 4x4 Cossie calipers orignal from an Escort and nearly new discs for 130!

Gonna get them fitted when she comes out in spring.

Wildheart take note

by **chumkila** on Tue Nov 11, 2003 9:42 am

I will get my brakes on soon! :lol:

by **Sphinx** on Tue Nov 11, 2003 9:50 am

dannyboy :Sphinx, the calipers include the extended carriers, bolts, pads and everything, all brand new for £200, and new discs are bout £100 from ford. All that is needed then is some braided hoses and they are perfect.

And thats the the 300mm set rite...GAAAADDDDGGGEEEETTTTT!!! can i have some of these please?!

Also, wot size are the focus discs used on the rear beam conversion on the Type-R? I've red the the post but cant find wot size they sed.

I'll put the escort master cyliner on @ a l8er date. As u can tell, i want amazing brakes BEFORE i get the 2.0 in

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