VIOLENT SHAKING IN REVERSE - HELP!!!

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Postby PhatMan on Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:34 am

does it sumtimes/only mildly in 1st but mainly (violently in reverse)

not booting it or nothin just crawling back, it shakes to engine and car to pieces!!!

the engine mounts must be ok [ERRR] i can welly it in 2nd to 3rd to 4th with no engine shaking probs??

ive got a 1.6CVH with a 1.6CVH clutch on a 1.1 5speed hcs box. this shudn't be a prob [ERRR] i know peeps that hav done this before and their motor runs fine????

any suggestions???? :sad:
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Postby bassboy on Thu Nov 01, 2001 9:55 am

ur pressure plate might need replaceing or realigning....one of the possibilities

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Postby PhatMan on Thu Nov 01, 2001 1:16 pm

i had a new clutch wen the car was built (its only been on the road for 6 days!!!)

i know that my anti-roll bar links are shot but wud this be the prob - its pretty bad shaking????? :sad:
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Postby snake on Thu Nov 01, 2001 3:08 pm

Clutch contamination-give it a burn. :grin: Smells nice!!!

Dodgy flywheel.
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Postby PhatMan on Thu Nov 01, 2001 4:03 pm

cud b the flywheel? i used the one that came with the engine.

my biting point is nearly `flat on the floor` though. and some times its really hard to get into gear????
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Postby iceman on Thu Nov 01, 2001 4:33 pm

my biting point is nearly `flat on the floor` though.


If it's a self adjusting clutch, that should be normal.
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Postby PhatMan on Thu Nov 01, 2001 4:37 pm

if it wont go into gear then if i take my foot off the clutch completley..... it clicks...

is that my clutch ratchet? is that what `self adjusts` it?

does that `click` mean its knackered?

is that y its hard to get into gear sumtimes?
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Postby snake on Thu Nov 01, 2001 5:17 pm

If it clicks its knackered, replace the cable aswell as it stretches over time.. Does it judder if you slip the clutch in 2nd.. Biting point should not be right at the bottom..
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Postby PhatMan on Thu Nov 01, 2001 5:27 pm

all the forward gears seem to be fine, sumtimes does it (but only a tiny bit) in 1st as im pulling off.

are these clutch ratchets b@st@rds to fit?
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Postby snake on Thu Nov 01, 2001 5:31 pm

Yep :grin: :grin:
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Postby Project on Thu Nov 01, 2001 6:53 pm

Could also be your engine set up - my 2i kangaroos on part throttle at 2,000rpm whatever gear, but especially the lower gears :sad: :mad:
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Postby PhatMan on Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:17 pm

thing is the engine runs sweet, just had it tuned today.

im picking up a new gearbox out of a mk4 orion this weekend, so ill put that in along with a new ratchet and cable - see if that helps. ill also have a good look at the clutch see if there is any sign of damage or wateva. :wink:
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Postby FRS_Steve on Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:18 pm

On 2001-11-01 16:17, snake wrote:
If it clicks its knackered, replace the cable aswell as it stretches over time.. Does it judder if you slip the clutch in 2nd.. Biting point should not be right at the bottom..


Mine judders when I slip the clutch in 2nd (or 1st up hill) what does this mean?
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Postby snake on Thu Nov 01, 2001 8:36 pm

The clutch is buggered!!. Possibly due to contamination(oil) or just wear and tear.
You can just put up with it if you`re not bothered about it..

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Postby iceman on Thu Nov 01, 2001 9:23 pm

If u feel lost of power i.e. if the rev goes up but ur fezzy gets no acceleration means that ur clutch is dead. Get it changed. Mine did the same but now AP is in....Mental!
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Postby PhatMan on Fri Nov 02, 2001 1:01 pm

but the clutch is brand new (ONLY 7 DAYS OLD!!!)

and i dont hav any slipping at all, just this violent shaking??? & its p!ssin me off :sad:
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Postby iceman on Fri Nov 02, 2001 1:08 pm

Best bet if u'r gears are hard to engage, have a look at the syncro. However, Violently shaking in reverse......no idea. Sorry.
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Postby snake on Fri Nov 02, 2001 2:51 pm

It may be the flywheel then, you can get them skimmed pretty cheap..
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Postby PhatMan on Fri Nov 02, 2001 6:39 pm

flywheel hummmm..... but why only in reverse? & not forward?

cud it be the clutch its self, maybe ive put the wrong one in. beeing a XR2 lump and a 1.1 hcs box i used a XR2 clutch...

.....maybe the clutch dont like the box, do u think changing the box to suit the lump and clutch wud help?

but saying that there are a few peeps on here that have 1.6CVH's on 1.1/1.0hcs boxes & they r ok, arnt they?

ohhh, i dont know. i fed up :sad:
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Postby Project on Fri Nov 02, 2001 7:08 pm

You just answered your own question m8.

The 1.1 ratios shouldn't be used on a lump like that to be honest - it *will* shag your mounts, especially if you have to re-learn your bite point, and carb engines (and EFi to an extent) are inherently jerky on part throttle.

Take it easy. The new box should help some :smile:
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Postby PhatMan on Fri Nov 02, 2001 7:10 pm

nice 1 cheese :smile: :wink:
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Postby Excursion on Wed Nov 07, 2001 6:32 am

1100 boxes dont last 2 minutes with anything more than an 1100 on the other end!!

put a 1300 cfi box with a 1600 zetec and it was really nice to drive, 1st-3rd in like 10 seconds - but it went bang in spectacular style
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