What Head Work to do to a FRST?

CVH and Zetec tuning, suspension and braking mods.

Postby PhatMan on Wed Feb 06, 2002 8:29 pm

ok, here it goes.... (i knw very little about FRST's).. im fed up with the flood of `blue smoke` that piles from the back of my fez every time i boot it so im going to build a RS Turbo lump for it... :grin:

im gettin my hands on a RS lump and im gonna strip it and re-build it at work (ford).

so obviousley im going to take the head off, while its off i want sum `HEAD WORK`.. but what? skimmed? polished? ported? bigger valves? ( :rolleyes: OMG i havent a clue [ERRR] im talking about :rolleyes: ) shall i have the block bored to 1.7? crank? flywheel?

i aint bothered about the cost cos im gonna do it all over the summer, ready for the autum, so i can spread the cost. how much will each of these things cost?

plz help sum1 [ERRR] i dont want to look like a total tw@t wen i take the head & block for work to be done :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :???: :???: :???: .
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Postby snake on Wed Feb 06, 2002 8:44 pm

You`ll have to check the bores-this is the first thing to do, if they are worn get o.5mm oversized low comp pistons. Don`t skim the head unless required-just strip it, get the face checked and pressure tested. New guides, for the valves, i recommend Burtons 214n stainless ones-they are very tasty and are shaped nice+flows well, 3 angle valve seats is a must on a cvh, and get a forth angle put on the valve. Get yourself a camkit, and just get the head flowed at a specialist, do not polish as this is just show and can cause running problems.. For the bottom end get it fully balanced(pistons, rods, crank, flywheel)+get arp rod bolts fitted. Skim the flywheel if its grooved.. Loadsa stuff can be done depending on your budget. Are u rebuilding it yourself??
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Postby PhatMan on Fri Feb 08, 2002 10:04 pm

once ive found a decent lump at a decent price im keeping it at work and ill be re-building it myself with help with the technitians at work (Ford).

So can i have it board 0.5mm and fit oversized pist rings or do i need larger pistons?

all the head and block work will be done at a local engine macheining company but it shall be stripped & re-built at work.
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Postby snake on Fri Feb 08, 2002 10:31 pm

Nope you`ll need a new set of pistons £££!!, if the head is being flowed etc, make sure they have a good repuatation and know what they are doing with the cvh!!, a badly flowed head will wreck an engines performance.. Also strip the engine totally, oil galley plugs, core plugs etc and get them to chemically clean and sandblast the head(just acid bath) and block..
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Postby snake on Fri Feb 08, 2002 10:33 pm

If u want a guide to go by and what sort of power u can get take a look at my specs..
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Postby PhatMan on Sat Feb 09, 2002 1:47 pm

cheers chap :grin:

wheres your specs then? :rolleyes:
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Postby snake on Sat Feb 09, 2002 7:02 pm

196 bhp@5680 rpm(max 7500-8000 rpm)
-Arp rod bolts
-Lightened/balanced pistons, conrods, flywheel, crankshaft
-Fully rebuilt engine(1600)
-High pressure oil pump
-Felpro head gasket
-Stage 3 T3 turbo running 0.9 bar boost
-Ported inlet manifold
-Ported exhaust manifold
-Collins twin piston d/v
-Jetex panel filter
-New valve guides and seats
-New stainless steel valves
-3 angle valve seats, 4th angle on the valve
-Ported/flowed head
-Kent cam+vernier
-Full mongoose exhaust(modified downpipe)
-Pace chargecooler
-Standard intercooler
-Custom intake system with Racetech silicon hoses
-Pace alluminium radiator
-Unichip
-701 bosch injectors
-Uprated fuel pump
-NGK cossie spark plugs
-Turbo technics breather
-Motorsport fuel filter
-Stainless steel jublee clips
-Piper cambelt
-Baileys T3 turbo filter
-Ford clutch paddle over winter..
-Rebuilt gearbox running synthetic fluid
-Chromed cam cover
-Chromed front and rear strut braces+other bits
-Uprated gearbox mounts
-Blitz duel solenoid boost controller
-Fuel pressure, oil pressure, oil temperature, water temperature, boost pressure, volt meter gauges(Racetech) in custom gauge pods
-Air intake temperature gauge
-Lockwood dials
-Black turbo steering wheel
-Meshed front bumper
-Bonrath bonnet struts
-Auxilary relay box
-Auxilary fuse box
-Braided brake lines
-Wilwood 4 pot calipers with 315mm 8 groove discs
-Masitaly VT5R 17 inch wheels
-Pirelli P7000 205/40
-Stainless steel sill plates
-Stripped floor pan, prepped and finished with Hammerite
-Cat 1 alarm/immobilizer
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-Alarm pager system
-Kenwood mask minidisc
-Pioneer 10 inch sub
-Pioneer 6x9`s
-Custom rear shelf
-Pioneer 13 inch 3 ways
-Polished 2.4kg Lifeline fire extinguisher
-Rear spacer blocks
-3mm spacers on the front
-Copeswood tinted windows
-Clear indicators, side repeaters
-Avo coilovers
-No spare wheel
-Holts tyreweld x2
-Geodesy..
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Postby FlashXR2i on Sun Feb 10, 2002 3:44 pm

...and no mistaking when fitting oil pump!!!!!!! use a bit of silicone too....
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Postby snake on Sun Feb 10, 2002 5:22 pm

Don`t use silicon..
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Postby Excursion on Sun Feb 10, 2002 11:39 pm

whata bout the oil pump - the flats only fit the crank one way dont they?
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Postby Excursion on Sun Feb 10, 2002 11:39 pm

whata bout the oil pump - the flats only fit the crank one way dont they?
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Postby Excursion on Sun Feb 10, 2002 11:42 pm

whata bout the oil pump - the flats only fit the crank one way dont they?
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Postby FlashXR2i on Mon Feb 11, 2002 9:48 am

yes. one way.
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Postby Ian C70T5 on Mon Feb 11, 2002 9:53 am

Headwork... Spits or swallows....... :lol: :lol:
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Postby Phil Si on Mon Feb 11, 2002 12:36 pm

ian what r u doing in the tuning bit? get back to tech problems :wink: hehe

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Postby Ian C70T5 on Mon Feb 11, 2002 12:41 pm

:lol: @ Phil..

ME.. yYOU should be in the ADVICE section :wink:
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Postby andymac on Mon Feb 11, 2002 12:41 pm

Phil, stop being nasty to Ian.

Its them cossie rims u know, thats why the poor chap didn't do as well as he might have on the RR day featured in fast ford this month....
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Postby Ian C70T5 on Mon Feb 11, 2002 12:41 pm

OR cars for SALE section buying a PERFORMANCE CAR :bonkers:
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Postby Phil Si on Mon Feb 11, 2002 12:43 pm

performance? or unreliable car :wink: hehe

*phil gets in car and the engine blows up* doh :eek: :lol:
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Postby AdrianFRST on Mon Feb 11, 2002 1:47 pm

Snake may I offer some suggestions/ask some questions?

196 bhp@5680 rpm(max 7500-8000 rpm)
Q.flywheel or wheels?

-Lightened/balanced pistons, conrods, flywheel, crankshaft
Q.blue printed?

-Felpro head gasket
Q.What size?

-Stage 3 T3 turbo running 0.9 bar boost
Q.stage 3 for 0.9 bar, this is correct?

-Ported inlet manifold
-Ported exhaust manifold
Q.Did they fit locator rings?

-Collins twin piston d/v
S.If only 0.9 bar boost I'd recommend not running this.

-Ported/flowed head
Q.Again locator rings?

-Pace chargecooler
-Standard intercooler
-Custom intake system with Racetech silicon hoses
Q.I take it your the guy running inter and charge some one was asking about.

-Air intake temperature gauge
Q.what temp you getting on this?
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Postby snake on Mon Feb 11, 2002 8:07 pm

1. Flywheel
2.nope
3.feck knows, normal size!, brought from Burtons-i think its from the american 1900 cvh.
4.Yup, going up when its back on the road, also going on the Zetec if i build it.
5.yup, they have lugs so they line up..
6.Everyone says different things about D/V, the twin piston doesn`t allow air in on idle, and have been told by the bloke who done the engineering work(used to work for the Porche gt race team) that its worth running one. Personally i would recommend one-only if it doesn`t allow air in on idle..
7. For the manifold locations-yup
8. Yup
9. was getting no more than 35oC on full chat, normal running it followed the ambient temp by 1 or 2 degrees, this should be lower/better when i`ve done my other mods to the system.
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Postby AdrianFRST on Tue Feb 12, 2002 2:47 pm

*holds breath and crosses fingers hoping for continuation of an adult discussion without resorting to name calling or slaaaging off*
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Postby PhatMan on Wed Feb 13, 2002 9:23 pm

*^*Andi stands back and hopes his topic isnt the stage for another brawl and that sum1 will giv sum constructive coments on what to do to a RST engine*^*

:rolleyes: ?
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