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[zetec16]

What modifications do i need to do to get more bhp from my 1600cc 16v Zetec, i'd like to do a turbo convertion in the future so what's the best modifications and what Bhp Should i have?

[chumkila]

I'd say if you are wanting to go the Turbo route then save your money and do the conversion straight out. It's a waste of money buying things for the engine now if your gona be doing something in future.

However i would say get yourself a Stainless Steel Exhaust, Air-filter for now.

[MadcatCraig]

waste of time turboing a 1.6si

The engine was built for economy thus it has economical features one would be the TINY exhaust oultets

trying to flow a decent ammounmt of gas thru these would be impossible !

if u want to turbo a zetec u will need FRST engine management or aftermarket management

if u want to turbo a zetec buy a decent zetec engine and turbo it

for the money spent the gains would be no where near as high as if u turbod a 1800 or 2000 zetec

[Phil Si]

lol...

[zetec16]

but why buy another engine?

all i want is the ppsshhh!!!! sound of the dumpvalve and some good power but not that scary power, i only want to have fun it my self?

what modification do i need to make a turbo?

[Phil Si]

well to get the pshh u gonna need reasonable boost, and u aint gonna really get that with the 1.6 zetec... unles u do lots of work!
bst bet is to get a 2.0 in there as thats enough power for u i think hehe

[MadcatCraig]

aye mate ure gonna spend loads of money doing it on a 1600 fro a sound u will get bored of very quickly !

Phil has a 2ltr and it need not cost the earth

u WILL have to change ure engine management to run a turbo and thats gonna be costly so id keep a budget of about £2k to build a half decent zetec turbo runnign fiesta management

u need to think about fueling etc

a turbo is not a strap on mod !

[chumkila]

a turbo is not a strap on mod !

Madcat knows ALOT about "strap-ons"

[zetec16]

i already have an fiesta XRII fuel pump in a fuel tank and a cosworth fuel pump group a in another stainless steel tank so this is a turbo ready fueling mod. am i right?

[elm_us]

m8 dont be silly

i have a SI to and i have been thinking of this for MONTHS

i have spoke to many many many people and either find your self a RS1800 or a 2L zetec engin and turbo it

[MadcatCraig]

lol dood getting the fuel to the rail is one thing yes then you have to get it into the engine and at the right time in the right quantities !

Ure management cannot run boost u will need a management system that can control/tell what boost you are running so that it can adjust fuel accordingly

the more boost the more fuel

so at a minimum u need a FRST loom ECU map sensor and Edis then a FRST flywheel, if u want big power u will need beige injectors £250 worth if u want figure of more than 220 u will need even bigger injectors which cost more

a loom ecu and all the bits will probably set you back a Good £300 unless you find a deal.

there are lots of things to think about i myself am beginning to spec an engine with intent to build it over the winter for next year.

Mr excursion has just put a turbod 1800 lump in his home made it is and stunnign too.
Its not cheap its not easy and its not to be done on a 1600 series one zetec

The engine is far to restrictive.

Also if ure thinkign in terms of not wanting to remove the engine from the car then thats a no no

u will need to replace the pistons at least and ideally the rods and bolts too with forged and steel items Pistons for an 1800 weigh in at about £500 a set price increases according to what size engine u want them for.

A set of conrod bolts are £70 for steel items just for 8 bolts

a zetec was not made to be turbod so in order to turbo it u need to make usre it will be strong enough to take the strain.

Mate if u want to whack a turbo on it by all means do so ! if u put a turbo on it with the exhaust and jsut set the acuator it would probably last a few miles and then a piston would pop under load.

Prit what has Phil been telling you !

[Excursion]

the hotwire MAF on the EECIV internal EDIS will cope with around 180 bhp. Quite a useful gain, the head will flow enough if you're looking for sub 180brake.

You could run 7psi on your standard engine, swap to 2000/1800 injectors though. Once above that you need bigger sidefeeds.

Be a nice little project, and could have been done with the engine in the car but unfortunately on mk3.5 zetecs sump removal is a pretty much engine out job.

have fun.

[zetec16]

180bhp or a little bit more is good for me, but what's the best modification do i need so it can't damege my engine?

i think?

T3 Hybrid Turbo is good,
Cossie Ecu,
Uprated Injectors (Which One's)
Stainless steel valves
what else do i need?

and my friend have a Zetec 1800cc Head is it good to fit it on my 1600cc Zetec or i can just took out the Throttle body?

[Excursion]

a standard escort t3 will be fine.

no to all the other points you raised

[zetec16]

but can you make me a list of the modifications i need to make pls?

[chumkila]

Prit what has Phil been telling you !

Never you mind!

[MadcatCraig]

lol Mark u seriously recomending this guy turboing a 1600 si ??????

i was looking the heads of a1600 and 2000 in he scrappy and the difference is immence.

to get a N/A 1800 zetec to workin on Si management the ECU had to be chipped !

ure recomending he turbo it with no internal mods for a gain of nearly 100bhp !!!!!



hmmm mate explain ureself to me im interested in ure views !

[zetec16]

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[zetec16]

my brother just gave his fiesta RS Turbo ECU becouse he replaced it with Lumenition ECU,

and i was thinking if i can use it with my zetec 1600cc what else do i need to turbocharged my zetec?

for sure i need:

Escort T3 Turbo
Manifolds (i don't know what i need)
injectors (what type of injectors do i need)
what else do i need to make it work good....
please help?

[keydoh]

Wouldn't it be easier just to buy a FRST???

[Excursion]

yes I am reccomending he does that its a cheap upgrade

[AdrianFRST]

Whereabouts in Liverpool are you from?

[chumkila]

Mr Stewart you d man!

[Nick 2i]

i personally wouldnt recommend this, the 1.6 zetec has ridiculously small valves and different combustion chambers, really not worth it imho.

your current engine would need lots of work and wouldnt be worth it. i reckon a 1.8 or 2.0 would be a much better idea.

but in the end its your decision, but good luck with it if you go for it!

[Excursion]

well i reccomended it as a cheap upgrade. swap to an 1800 and straight away your going to be able to flow more air than the maf can realisticially cope with, then you get into the upper limits of the 1800 injector flow rating - plus the fact you have to take the engine out, sell it, and swap it for an 1800

his current engine would need no work....

[Excursion]

well i reccomended it as a cheap upgrade. swap to an 1800 and straight away your going to be able to flow more air than the maf can realisticially cope with, then you get into the upper limits of the 1800 injector flow rating - plus the fact you have to take the engine out, sell it, and swap it for an 1800

his current engine would need no work....

but it seems this guy is a windup anyway!

[zetec16]

thanks Excursion, i do what i can to swap the engine ok thanks