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Re: xr2 rebuild 2 litre still waiting on some TLC wierd update

Postby RSGeorge on Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:50 pm

Looking good Jay

Would love a garage like yours, could get so much done :devil:
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Re: xr2 rebuild 2 litre still waiting on some TLC wierd update

Postby jayrs on Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:00 pm

my local paint place dont sell automotive celle no more, but you can still get it.
technically, public joe shouldnt be allowed to buy 2pac, but theres nothing in place at the mo (or last time i checked) to stop it.

a fly mask is a face mask, you getting different type of filters though

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they have a use by date once opened, but ive used mine over and over for, well over 2 years when painting and its still fine
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Re: xr2 rebuild 2 litre dunno what to do now 20/4

Postby jayrs on Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:06 pm

hi guys, no update on the car it self, it still remains untouched, BUT, this is one reason for me posting here today.

to understand where i am at the mo, i have 4 cars as some might know.

i have a bmw318ti compact, but this was got cheap as the clutch release bearing is siezed and i still havent done yet, but this will be done and car sold on no matter what now.

the RS, well she still needs a cam, but thats all in the pipe line and isnt going anywhere, ever!

the escort, shes the run around, few minor problems, biggest being the clutch will need doing at some point as biting point is high but it dont slip yet.

and the xr2.

those that have followed the thread from the start will know it first started as a run around then it was going to be a quick tidy up and 2 litred and back as the run around.
this then changed to going from a quick sort out to a full restro, but lucky, so far i havent done anything major body work wise yet.

anyway, im at the point now im thinking do i really want and need 2 minted cars sat in garages hardly being used and running around in a 1.6 zetec escort........, if the xr is fully restorted i wont wanna use it as a daily, and the rs as a daily aint gunna happen, its not that i cant afford to run it, its bacuse i dont wanna use it in the winter, and i aint walking when its cold or raining :lol: :lol:

so im 50/50 as to go ahead with the full restro and keep it tucked away and maybe sell it at some point and make some good money on it (should see 2.5-3k for the xr2 when done i would of thought) but its this "maybe" chances are i wouldnt wanna let it go :lol: but who knows.....

or do i just go for plan A and rebuild it as i first intended too and bung the 2 litre in and use it as a daily...... i really cant make up my mind at the mo, although the most logical one would be to use it as a daily and keep RS for best and fcuk the other 2 off

what you guys think?
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Re: xr2 rebuild 2 litre dunno what to do now 20/4

Postby Ratspeed on Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:10 pm

2 litre it, tidy it up and daily drive :Q

I'd rather have a cool car as a daily that i can drive but not be too scared of stone chips and car park dings then be scared to leave it anywhere
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Re: xr2 rebuild 2 litre dunno what to do now 20/4

Postby Excursion on Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:16 pm

Exactly the same story with my Si! I'm getting bits powder coated etc. but it's pretty far from concourse. The seams are being covered with sealer, the underneath covered with wax and I'm smearing grease over most parts on the underneath!

I really wanted to do a pristine build and it pains me to build something any other way, but like you say, it then becomes a show piece that you wouldn't feel comfortable using, and I don't want that either.

I say cut out the rot, and build it up with the intention of using it come rain or shine. Life's so short and you can't drive it when you're gone:D
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Re: xr2 rebuild 2 litre dunno what to do now 20/4

Postby jayrs on Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:30 pm

your both right, and this is why im thinking along these lines.

if i do go for it to be a daily, then it will get arch repair panels rather then the full quarters, and the front wings need replacing no matter what but i would bung pattern ones on and save the gen for stuff as its all new and i see little point putting brand new (getting rare) panels on for a daily, if needbe, these could be kept or sold on later on, but for now i would tuck them away as they were mostly bargains :wink:
i wouldnt use the brand new lights for it too, there stay tucked away.

daily or not though, i would still maintain a stanard of workmanship, although i wouldnt be so fussy, i.e it wouldnt worry me if i cut out the rot/old repair in the boot floor and put a smooth flat plate in, over a properly shaped repair panel to match what was there, if you get me, but all repairs would be done right and done to last.
all the rot would be sorted though, and the under side all resealed and paneted, rear beam etc would all get cleaned and painted anway as it dont cost nothing but time and a tin of paint, which i already got.

oh, i would still be worried about car park dents etc, force of habit due after my rs was keyed within the first week of being on the road after the rebuild, but that said, and it sounds stupid i know, it wouldnt bother me that much as it would if i spent lots of time and money doing the full works.


finally, the bonnet mod with it being converted to open "normal way" that will still happen no matter, trying to work on a engine with access from just the sides is one major ball ache, and i will not give up untill the bonnet mod is dont, even if i have to make my own hinges :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: xr2 rebuild 2 litre dunno what to do now 20/4

Postby jonyb4 on Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:35 pm

id personally tidy it up, give it some luxuries and drive it with the 2.0 in :)
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Re: xr2 rebuild 2 litre dunno what to do now 20/4

Postby jonyb4 on Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:35 pm

besides you cant take two cars to a show... :)
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Re: xr2 rebuild 2 litre dunno what to do now 20/4

Postby Ratspeed on Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:48 pm

jonyb4 :besides you cant take two cars to a show... :)


I did! I took one and told the missus to bring the other!!
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Re: xr2 rebuild 2 litre dunno what to do now 20/4

Postby niracka on Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:49 pm

Yea man do it as a daily. I'm sure the standard you will make it to as a daily will probabvly be better than alot of people show cars. You know it makes more sense than putting all your time and money into just to shut it away in a shed and never use it.

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Re: xr2 rebuild 2 litre dunno what to do now 20/4

Postby jonyb4 on Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:04 pm

Ratspeed :
jonyb4 :besides you cant take two cars to a show... :)


I did! I took one and told the missus to bring the other!!



lol maybe, but jay is coming further! :P
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Re: xr2 rebuild 2 litre dunno what to do now 20/4

Postby Dave G fsi on Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:43 pm

You would be in the same situation as me mate, as I have two "toys", my mk1 and my RS, and my si is the daily.

The way I view it is the mk1 and the RS can only go up in value now anyway, so even if they arnt used that much they are an investment if nothing else, and knowing that I have them to use in the summer and go to shows in makes me happy too.

The si is an awesome daily, couldnt ask for anything better

If I were you, I would keep going with the XR, make it mint, and maybe in the future get an ST or something as the daily as a more practical fast ford for work etc :aviator:
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Re: xr2 rebuild 2 litre dunno what to do now 20/4

Postby knuckles on Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:51 pm

2.0 it !

beware of the fuel consumption :(
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Re: xr2 rebuild 2 litre dunno what to do now 20/4

Postby jayrs on Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:02 am

Ratspeed :
jonyb4 :besides you cant take two cars to a show... :)


I did! I took one and told the missus to bring the other!!



already told the wife she would have to bring one, so thats alreays sorted :lol:

niracka :Yea man do it as a daily. I'm sure the standard you will make it to as a daily will probabvly be better than alot of people show cars. You know it makes more sense than putting all your time and money into just to shut it away in a shed and never use it.

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:lol: cheers fella, na wouldnt be to that extent, in fairness, its bloody good rot wise for its age, and going by some of the "show cars" ive seen on stands before, i could roll it up as its stands and still win first prize compaired to them :lol: :lol: :lol:


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jonyb4 :besides you cant take two cars to a show... :)


I did! I took one and told the missus to bring the other!!



lol maybe, but jay is coming further! :P



thats a good point, 2 ferry tickets :aaah: :aaah: :aaah: :aaah: :aaah:
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Re: xr2 rebuild 2 litre dunno what to do now 20/4

Postby jayrs on Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:12 am

Dave G fsi :You would be in the same situation as me mate, as I have two "toys", my mk1 and my RS, and my si is the daily.

The way I view it is the mk1 and the RS can only go up in value now anyway, so even if they arnt used that much they are an investment if nothing else, and knowing that I have them to use in the summer and go to shows in makes me happy too.

The si is an awesome daily, couldnt ask for anything better

If I were you, I would keep going with the XR, make it mint, and maybe in the future get an ST or something as the daily as a more practical fast ford for work etc :aviator:



this is the other side of the coin mate, yes they will go up in value, and they already have, ive scrapped better mk2's in the past compaired to the ones ive seen sell for £400 plus on ebay! and there rotters, 10 year ago they wasn't worth a w@nk, i sold a running xr2 (but no T&T) and a xr2 with no engine in, with a boot full of spares for £45 :cry: :cry: today, thats at least a grand :( at least!
i would like a ST for a daily, a focus ST, but in reality, it aint gunna happen, i just dont have that kinda money, and if i did, the family car would have to come first, and as i have 4 kids, the family cars stuck being a people carrier, although we would like to change from the galaxy to a Smax in time, so the ST aint gunna happen, which is more the reason im thinking along the lines i am, i.e just enjoy it sort of thing, i dunno, still 50/50


knuckles :2.0 it !

beware of the fuel consumption :(



your just a animal with a lead boot mate :lol: :lol:
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Postby jonyb4 on Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:15 am

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Postby Excursion on Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:45 am

knuckles :2.0 it !

beware of the fuel consumption :(


Hmm, it should be pretty good, especially in something as light as a Mk2. The consumption in the Mk3 was as good if not better than the 1.6 which means around 36MPG average on a mixed cycle.

What gearbox are you using?
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Re: xr2 rebuild 2 litre dunno what to do now 20/4

Postby Fraggle on Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:19 am

:bonkers: ahh The old how many an what too do we em dilemma...xr2-clean it up/make solid/leave cvh in it an use it for daily,u know as it is its perfect for hossing round that twistie lane packed rock u live on Mr J...:Q ...Turbo bubblerap an vacuum pack it,too much salt in the atmos over there an being a mk3 well...:rolleyes: :wink: :lol: :lol:
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Re: xr2 rebuild 2 litre dunno what to do now 20/4

Postby knuckles on Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:44 am

Excursion :
knuckles :2.0 it !

beware of the fuel consumption :(


Hmm, it should be pretty good, especially in something as light as a Mk2. The consumption in the Mk3 was as good if not better than the 1.6 which means around 36MPG average on a mixed cycle.

What gearbox are you using?


fiesta 1.8 bc diesel gearbox atm.
We planning on fitting a ib5 soon with rear starter to allow fitment of st170 manifold
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Postby Excursion on Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:58 am

knuckles :fiesta 1.8 bc diesel gearbox atm.
We planning on fitting a ib5 soon with rear starter to allow fitment of st170 manifold


Should be even better with those ratios then. Maybe a MAF clean or other work will help - what do you get to a tank at the moment?
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Re: xr2 rebuild 2 litre dunno what to do now 20/4

Postby jayrs on Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:39 pm

fraggle, no cvh staying in it fella, although the old xr2 lump was spot on and never failed me, would even start and run in the cold with no choke, so it was tuned very well, but it just dont do it for me no more, it will have the 2 litre no matter what :lol:

be good to compair it against yours when its done clark, a si plan on fitting a sprae FRST box i got, or maybe the xr2 box again
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Postby Fraggle on Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:49 pm

Shame no cvh...U could have taken it outta ya turbo an dropped it in...Sell me your bonnet an everyones a winner :wink:
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Postby jayrs on Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:08 pm

no mate, rs is staying as it is, i still got the cvh engine from the xr2, as well as another xr2 cvh engine :lol: , but i got the 2 litre zetec sat on the engine stand still so its being used
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Postby Fraggle on Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:25 pm

:bonkers: Jus messing wit ya :lol: :P
Still want a bonnet though :lol: :lol:
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Postby MK2 Jamie on Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:46 pm

jayrs :no mate, rs is staying as it is, i still got the cvh engine from the xr2, as well as another xr2 cvh engine :lol: , but i got the 2 litre zetec sat on the engine stand still so its being used


Sell me one of the xr2 engines :cry:
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Postby jayrs on Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:59 pm

no mate bonnets staying put fella.

jamie, if you wanted one i would sell ya one, but im on the isle of wight so its not just a drive away :lol:
would be the one out of a blue one i striped ages ago though, the one from ym red xr is the staying put incase i ever decide to bung it back in
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Postby Fraggle on Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:31 pm

:bonkers: On a Serious note mr J...I got exactly the same dilemma with my sport.I Love it/its solid/Reliable/an a sweet car but tiring of 1400cc...
Been thinking of selling up as i feel its a shame to mess with it but the urge too do summink looney is getting too strong...an my rs really needs doin as its got serious sentiment 4me.,2litre sounds a good plan man but fords atmo dont seem 2b selling unless concours/originals so from a resale point is it a good idea??Who Knows??
Gotta say though Member Knuckles one is starting too bring out my inner fiddler :lol: :devil:
Whatever u do though i'll be watching closely...Stalker stylee :lol: :P :Q
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Postby jayrs on Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:58 pm

cheers dude,

inner fiddler :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

the beauty with it being a mk2, is that there becoming more sout after as there classics now and most have gone now meaning whats left is for in most part, in demand, but it is all price dependant like everything


another thing i have also been thinking about, is if im going to have it as a daily, then im considering painting it a different color not red :aaah:

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yeah i am :lol:

but it deffo will NOT be white! :lol: :lol:


im thinking of a blue, maybe the blue thats on the mk2 focus RS but were see what i decide if i go down the road of it being a daily, which i gotta say right now, is looking more likly to happen than it was last week.
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Postby Fraggle on Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:01 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Lovin the russel howard white cat :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Shame aint it [ERRR] the mk2s aint all bad....Should do it rs green :o :o :lol: :P
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Postby jayrs on Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:07 pm

dont mate, the missis would be up for that but not me, green cars are seen to be unlucky imo, and anyone in my family thats had a green car has had it smakced up, so it wont be green.

and thats a reason the BMW is going, thats green too :lol: :lol:
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Postby Fraggle on Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:11 pm

:lol: :lol: Sign of intellegence green....Had a mk4 cabbie turbo in pearl green/Jade colour...Biggest Bucket i ever owned...He mus av been a sharp intellegent fella,,Rebuilt The A post with Fibreglass :o :lol:
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Postby hb69 on Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:37 pm

knuckles :2.0 it !

beware of the fuel consumption :(


Should be too bad on fuel, my xr2i used to average between 30-40mpg. Should be similar if not better in your mk2 as its lighter
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Postby jayrs on Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:09 pm

Fraggle ::lol: :lol: Sign of intellegence green....Had a mk4 cabbie turbo in pearl green/Jade colour...Biggest Bucket i ever owned...He mus av been a sharp intellegent fella,,Rebuilt The A post with Fibreglass :o :lol:

:lol: :lol:


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knuckles :2.0 it !

beware of the fuel consumption :(


Should be too bad on fuel, my xr2i used to average between 30-40mpg. Should be similar if not better in your mk2 as its lighter


thats a fair return, my run around escort will do about 80 miles to a tenner, cant the the xr being that much less if driven sensiable
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Re: xr2 rebuild 2 litre dunno what to do now 20/4

Postby jonyb4 on Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:00 pm

80miles?! crap i get about 50! :rolleyes:


loved that montage of pics haha, swear i seen you in one of them :bonkers:
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Re: xr2 rebuild 2 litre dunno what to do now 20/4

Postby knuckles on Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:40 pm

Excursion :
knuckles :fiesta 1.8 bc diesel gearbox atm.
We planning on fitting a ib5 soon with rear starter to allow fitment of st170 manifold


Should be even better with those ratios then. Maybe a MAF clean or other work will help - what do you get to a tank at the moment?


not sure the mpg atm. im still ironing out a few kinks on the engine atm ... few issues

cleaned maf with carb cleaner before i finished the build.
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