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[dsfawcett]

i have jus brought me my first XR2i after owning a 950 and a 1.6si. its the 1800 16v version.

i want to keep the outside standard in looks apart from alloys and changing to mk3.5 mirrors.

i want to tune the engine but am not sure where to start. i have heard that to get any big power gains i need to change the cams, ecu, throttle bodies and inlet + exhaust manifold.

are there are more simple cheaper mods to get some power gains. those mods are fairly expensive and will come in the new year.

cheers

[chumkila]

The only mod not listed that you could do now is get an aftermarket stainless steel full exhaust system which should help release the gases and give for a more pleasant drive.

Welcome to the site.

[dsfawcett]

cheers chumkila.

whats this i hear about the cat and emissions tho. can i get an exhaust that will comply etc do i need the cat etc.

will an exhaust and induction kit make any real difference to the power figures.

are they the cheapest mods to start with. if so what would you reccommend to do next

cheers dan

[chumkila]

Exhaust and induction are the cheapest to start with. However they won't increase much bhp, maybe a few brakes at most. What they will do is make for a better drive however the induction kit has no real advantage over a standard box with aftermarket filter except that it will sound a little better when you rev it.

You will need the CAT for MOT purposes however if you have "connections" you could opt out of having one other than that you'd need to swap back to it for the inspection.

[dsfawcett]

lol "connections" eh. might be able to sort that one out.

ok so i gonna go with induction kit/filter replacement and exhaust first.

what wud b the next best thing to do which would give more bhp. my mate has got a saxo vtr and he thinks it is the dogs. will my xr2i beat him etc. he not allowed to do engine mods cause his mums car (fassy lol).

i only want to do engine mods cause i love the xr2i exterior look

cheers dan

[chumkila]

The next step up would be the mods you mentioned in your first post "cams, ecu, throttle bodies and inlet + exhaust manifold" but you should decide what the ultimate power figure you're aiming for before going down that route as it can get quite expensive.

[dsfawcett]

well i wud like to get to 200/ jus ova jus because its the next 100 barrier. most of my mates cars are around the 130/150 mark and i wud like to reach the 200 barrier.

how hard is this and what is the easiest and cheapest way to get up there. but then again i was also thinking of sourcing an rs turbo engine and reconditioning it etc and putting that in.

any advice is greatly appreciated

cheers dan

[SamT]

thro experience i would go with a high flow filter in standard air box and foget about an open cone, only get one if it's sealed.

I think yours must be the 105 ps model? am i right?

If it is id say 130bhp easyily obtainable. rs1800/2.0 cams rs1800 throttle body or escort xr3i mk5 (130ps model) and rs1800 ecu

exhaust, as mentioned stainless, cat back system will be bigger bore, but still retain the standard cat so MOT will be no problem. You could get a decat too, get spare downpipe, chop the cat out and weld a pipe in its place, that way come MOT you can pop the old down pipe on (with cat) Thats what i use to do, but i now have a highflow cat, but obviously these cost abit.

from there it does tend to get abit more expensive, more lairy cams kent/piper/newman offer a range to look at. mappable chip (again from experience plug in chips are s**t) or custom management.
individual throttle bodies, again expensive, or you could try adapting some motorbike throttle bodies to fit the zetec, thats what i have done on mine
Or turbo

could also drop in a 2.0 mondy lump relatively easy

hth

[chumkila]

You don't want too much then do you?!

The 200 mark for a N/A Zetec especially a 1.8 is some what of a dream for most. It is achievable but there is NO cheap way to getting there. So think hard about the figure you want. It would be far easier to drop a turbo lump in there but it would be a jump back to an older 8V engine however you will be able to mod the CVH Turbo to a higher spec for much less money.

Have a look at the following links for more information....

http://www.fiestaturbo.com/articles/zetectuning/

http://www.fiestaturbo.com/forums/250-b ... highlight=

http://www.fiestaturbo.com/forums/rs180 ... highlight=

http://www.fiestaturbo.com/articles/zetecturbo/

[Oranoco]

Before upping power ensure the brakes and suspension are up to the job at hand.

Tuning wise I'd get yoursefl a quality full system like a Magnex and get an after market panel filter in the standard airbox with holes drilled into the cold side of it. From here you can add a larger throttle body off the 2.0 Mondeo. Don't fart about fitting 130PS parts as you can get Cams from Piper very reasonably priced.

My bro has just done his missus 1800 Escort GTi with the above mods and it made 143bhp on an Ego Buster rolling road (about 160 on most other rollers) and also showed a perfect fuel curve

This will make for a nice nippy point to point car

[SamT]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FOUR-BRANCH-ASHLE ... dZViewItem

this'll fit i think lol

got an ashley on my car good manifolds

[Oranoco]

Ran an Ashley manifold on my old 2i. Worked a treat

[Jonezy]

if it makes you feel better your xr2i should absolutly panel a paxo vtr, emphasis on the word SHOULD.

[Priezti]

ive got a fully worked head, kent sport cams, 4 branch exhaust, sports cat, and collins power chip to go on mine, ill let you know the results

any one like to hazard a guess on the power ill kick out with this stuff on a 130 zetec?

[Oranoco]

Depend on who's rollers but on an accurate set about the 140-145 mark. On some of the more optimistic ones maybe 150

[Priezti]

was hoping for a tad more but will find out, going to get it on the rollers before and after

[Oranoco]

was hoping for a tad more but will find out, going to get it on the rollers before and after

Don't forget to let us know who ran it up.

[Priezti]

will do, any recommendations in the yorkshire area?

[dsfawcett]

sorry chumkila i meant 200 after puttin the rs turbo engine in. didnt explain meself properly. lol.

i was after components that i could put into the xr2i 1800 to get more power and then when i get round to replacing the engine i can put them into that one if possible. dont know if that makes any sense.

ill check out the sites you recommended.

cheers dan

[wildheart]

will do, any recommendations in the yorkshire area?

Noble Motorsport in Chesterfield
Its the only rollers in the area that us lot at the derbyshre rsoc will use.
Stay away from places like well lane!

[Newb0y]

Belive Me .. I Own both An XR2i . And a Saxo VTR . I can tell you 2 thing's .. The XR2i will leave a VTR ! & The only good thing about all saxo's is there handling. That's coming from my experience. Like said previously. Make sure your Brake's , Suspension , & handling are uprated abit until you begin too put serious power into thought. On another note I'd opt for the turbo . But if you want too see a few gain's Get a 4-1 Manifold with a custom straight threw de-cat exhaust. & some cam's . and a re-map session.

[dsfawcett]

cheers for the info newboy

how much do you rekon the manifold , de-cat exhaust, cams and a re map should come to.

how many extra horses [ERRR] i get out of it

cheers dan

[Oranoco]

cheers for the info newboy

how much do you rekon the manifold , de-cat exhaust, cams and a re map should come to.

how many extra horses [ERRR] i get out of it

cheers dan

Those tweeks should see you nudging past the 125bhp mark. If you put some proper cams in rather than fudging in a set of 2.0 Mondeo cams you may see close to 140

[dsfawcett]

oranoco cheers bud. you seem to know what your talking about.

i dont know what to do now because i have seen a 2l mondy engine on here for sale and its only a half hour drive from me.

i dont know wether to do anything to the 1800 2i or to get the mondy engine and swap that in.

what would you suggest and which engine would be easier to tune and have the most potential etc etc

cheers

[Oranoco]

The 2.0 mate by far although you will need the corresponding ECU as well. Ironically the 2.0 conversion is often cheaper to insure as the engine has come from a lower insurance grouped saloon/family car.

The 1800 can respond well to tuning but you'll need to put some cash in to see standard 2.0 power.

A 2.0 running on bike carbs and something like DTA management will return some very good results.

[dsfawcett]

nice 1 oranoco

i have been looking at the 1.6 8v CVH - 2.0 16v Zetec Engine Conversion guide in the gude section

the engine is the one goaty is selling in the parts section and comes with ecu loom etc. will i still need the si loom and the bits off the 1.8 2i engine or should i just put the whole engine in as it is with the different ecu. havent done an enginge conversion before only a straight like for like swap.

also will my current gearbox and driveshafts be up to the job etc or will they or any other parts need upgrading

[Oranoco]

Box and shafts should be fine mate although fitting an LSD equipped box from an RST is always nice. iirc you can use the Si loom but it may need a couple of pin swaps. A few people on here have done the swap so will be able to confirm or shatter my thoughts

I would strongly recomend sorting your brakes with Cossie 4x4 kit and some quality suspension goes without saying

[dsfawcett]

would i def need to use the si loom tho as that was suggested for the 8v engine and mine is the 16v one.

whats involved with the cossie brakes?? is that a rear disc conversion??

i gonna leave the box for a while then i think. what do you think of quaife boxes as they are only a half mile away from me. are they any good and would they do the lsd box too

would i need anything off the 2i engine wise or will it be ok to put the whole mondy engine in there. in the 8v conversion guide it says to use throttle body, throttle cable, inlet manif etc. do i need these or jus use the mondy engine ones

sorry bout all the questions mate

[scarlet_pimp_mobile]

I think you're better of looking at the 1.6 Si - 2.0 conversion guide as yours is the 16v XR2i rather than the 8v and so will be more releveant to the mods you need to carry out to complete the conversion.

[dsfawcett]

cheers. nice 1 scarlet i read that you thinking of doin a 2l conversion too. hope all goes well etc. when are you planning on doin it

[scarlet_pimp_mobile]

cheers. nice 1 scarlet i read that you thinking of doin a 2l conversion too. hope all goes well etc. when are you planning on doin it

I'm gonna be gathering the parts and then fitting the 2ltr in April when I turn 21 hopefully.

Another post to look at if you're unsure of what avenue to go down:

http://www.fiestaturbo.com/forums/2ltr-fez-s-as-much-fun-as-comparitive-power-rst-1800-s-vt140237

Apprently a 2L converted fez is a fun one

Put up a post in the Member's Gallery of your car and it's developments if and when you've got a chance. Always provides inspiration

[dsfawcett]

same age as me then scarlet.

will prop hopefully start after xmas. get the engine and then do a recon on it so mayb by beginning/mid way through jan should be in

cheers for the advice bud. if i do get it all done ill let ya know and mayb give advice where i can if needed

[scarlet_pimp_mobile]

same age as me then scarlet.

will prop hopefully start after xmas. get the engine and then do a recon on it so mayb by beginning/mid way through jan should be in

cheers for the advice bud. if i do get it all done ill let ya know and mayb give advice where i can if needed

Cheers dude, myself and Dave will be bugging everyone who has ever been involved in a 2Ltr conversion when it comes round to it!

[dsfawcett]

yes i think thats what its gonna be like for me too. prob ask all sorts of stupid questions but hey.

do you live in hurst green??? if so i am only a half hours drive or so from you so might be able to lend a hand etc