Zetec - Any tips PLEASE?

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Zetec - Any tips PLEASE?

Postby maky on Wed Jun 26, 2002 4:59 pm

I want to modify my 1800 zetec (escort GTi). So far i only have the 57i and magnex (cat back). The cat will be history soon too.

However I'm stuck on ideas for the internals of the engine. Should I go for Beige injectors etc...? :-?
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Postby ace on Wed Jun 26, 2002 5:27 pm

try a of piper cam kit for some top end power.
what about balancing the flywheel and crankshaft.
you could get a four branch exhaust manifold.
remember the more things you do, no matter how small they are they will make a difference.
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Postby Project on Wed Jun 26, 2002 11:27 pm

Try keeping the cat and spending the money on a Unichip or new management? If you have it properly done you will probably get a helluva lot more well-mapped power than the "hit and miss" approach of a filter and zorst.

For 130PS, the RS1800 exhaust cam, 130PS (i.e. RS1800 or 2.0L) throttle body and ECU should cover it ;) You may also need the 130PS MAF - Mark Stewart ( http://www.fiestaprojects.com ) can offer a great deal more advice and experience regarding Zetec tuning.

What year is the engine? If it's a series 1 Zetec (DOHC embossed on the rocker cover) you may need the under-piston cooling oil sprays to keep combustion chamber temps down.
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Postby maky on Thu Jun 27, 2002 1:43 pm

it's a '98 model (zetec 16v - I think :-? ) have to check that out. I was thinkin about doin a similar conversion to clairs (She's me sis inlaw so I could follow along those lines), 2L bottom end etc...

Money is a concern too, ie. i ain't rich! :(
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Postby moulder on Thu Jun 27, 2002 2:01 pm

Set of DCOE carbs mate or throttle bodies for proper power hikes, then balance eveything and get the head flowed and a trick set of cams = FUN but no fuel economy but carbns will make pops and flames etc and sound great = MORE FUN :D
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Postby MadcatCraig on Thu Jun 27, 2002 2:39 pm

that should be a Series 2 zetec i would have thought !

to gain real power new bottom end turbo or throttle bodies on a zetec !

thats gonna cost !

a new set of cams would sort you out but probably sacrifice something ie higher top speed will sacrifice lower end grunt !

Id follow clairs example

it need not be as expensive as clairs but she had a new engine and IH did it :devil: :devil:

A DIY job would be much cheaper if you got the gumption !
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Postby chumkila on Thu Jun 27, 2002 5:25 pm

Alpha-Weber Throttle Body Induction Kit from Burton Power! :wink:
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Postby maky on Fri Jun 28, 2002 12:05 pm

I think ima gonna go for the 2L bottom end - lowered compression, 2L mondy management, and uprated injectors to start with, then ad bits every now and then ie cams and stuff.

what do u reckon peeps? :D
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Postby DuncanFRST on Fri Jun 28, 2002 2:22 pm

You don't want lowered compression unless you have a turbocharger. Higher compression is the way to go for N/A cars - but you'll have to run high octane fuel from then on.

You're also probably find that the mondy management won't be any better (it probably exactly the same management as you're running at the moment).

I also doubt you're need the uprated injectors either as your current ones should be able to flow enough fuel.

I think the 130ps throttle body (or even better Alpha-Weber Throttle Bodies + management and injectors ££££ Speak to Grahamb as he's done this) coupled with a high com bottom end and some cams would be a very good start.

Basically if you want BIG power then you need to get yourself a turbo!
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Postby xfactor on Fri Jun 28, 2002 2:54 pm

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The Mndeo ECU will make some difference as it is set for the 130ps engine, yes you need to higher the compression that was my fault I gav hime the wrong info when I spoke to him earlier, crossed wires and all that.
The beighe Mondeo injectors have a higher flow capacity and would be needed if he were to run a flowed head at some point thats what claires got in hers.
you right about the fuel Clairs runs like crap on normal BP bat is awesome with shell optimax or even BP + nitrox :D
And he's gotta speak to me for his stuff after all I am his Bro :lol: :lol:
Hows the motor going Duncan ?
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Postby DuncanFRST on Fri Jun 28, 2002 3:19 pm

Cheers for the correction on mondy management.

Cars coming along nicely - should have the new engine fitted within a couple of weeks if all goes well.
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Postby xfactor on Fri Jun 28, 2002 3:32 pm

I bet you can't wait like a kid before xmas day :lol:
What did you ave done in the end, the full monty zvh ?
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Postby maky on Fri Jun 28, 2002 4:02 pm

Mr xfactor, please get ur facts straight, u make me look STupid! :lol:

Goin for a fag now :Q
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Postby freak power on Fri Jun 28, 2002 5:57 pm

DuncanFRST : (or even better Alpha-Weber Throttle Bodies + management and injectors ££££ Speak to Grahamb as he's done this

And me to :D
Now driving a 1999 Audi S3 with 2.1 20v OD HTAGT3582r Turbo

Bring on the 650+Bhp 4x4 monster
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Postby maky on Tue Jul 02, 2002 6:18 pm

also is it worth gettin shot of the K&N? I've heard they're not all that great?!
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Postby Robz_Fester on Tue Jul 09, 2002 2:02 am

seeing as its an escort gti is it not 130ps anyway?
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Postby maky on Tue Jul 09, 2002 12:12 pm

No its the pony 115! :( I think its only a slight cam difference and management too. :-?
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Postby zetec69 on Tue Jul 09, 2002 12:35 pm

130PS also has oil jet sprays under the pistons
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Postby DuncanFRST on Tue Jul 09, 2002 1:24 pm

xfactor :I bet you can't wait like a kid before xmas day :lol:
What did you ave done in the end, the full monty zvh ?


You'll see.... :devil:
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Postby maky on Tue Jul 09, 2002 2:58 pm

Yeah, I knew that :-?
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Postby chumkila on Tue Jul 09, 2002 3:19 pm

the throttle body is also different on the 130ps engine.
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Postby maky on Tue Jul 09, 2002 6:55 pm

So do u reckon i will need to change the throttle body when i do the conversion?

U guys, u just know so much! I know nuthin :rolleyes:
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Postby chumkila on Tue Jul 09, 2002 7:04 pm

yep Maky, change the Throttle body for either an RS1800 one (if u can find one) or alternatively an easier option to find is the 2.0L Mondeo one which is basically the same as the RS1800. :)
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Postby maky on Tue Jul 09, 2002 7:26 pm

Chum, u is a diamond geezer, i'm startin to understand it a bit better now! :D One day i will be master of all modding knowledge :lol:
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Postby chumkila on Tue Jul 09, 2002 7:39 pm

maky :Chum, u is a diamond geezer


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Postby maky on Wed Jul 10, 2002 5:42 pm

v nice,

Chumkila aka darth maul aka Diamond Dan the Shiney stone man! :lol:

So back to tuning!

Give me ur top recommendation for my mods (We talkin power tuning!) :devil:
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Postby higham on Wed Jul 10, 2002 8:53 pm

NOS!!!
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Postby chumkila on Thu Jul 11, 2002 7:01 pm

Maky it depends on what you have opted to go for. :)
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Postby maky on Fri Jul 12, 2002 5:06 pm

i'm goin 4 the 2L bottom end, and doin it myself with a bit of help from me bro and dad :D

Prob won't start until about 6 weeks tho
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Postby chumkila on Fri Jul 12, 2002 6:14 pm

ah following in the footsteps of Clair! :wink:
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Postby Studly on Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:50 pm

Changing out the Intake always works well on Zetecs, but you normally only get top end power from it, why don't you just drop an entire 2.0L in? I take it you don't cos the cylinder head mounts (engine) are different. Don't waste money on an FSE, I used to have faith in em till I got the car dyno'ed with one on.

Anyone tried adapting a Focus engine (2.0) into their Feista/Escort yet, with the gear box as well?

The CAT's also make very little difference on these engines as well.

If you are going for decent power replace your rod bolts with ARP items, this is a must, you don't want to put out an engine fire with some decaf coke like I did!

Hope it helps, any questions about modding 2.0 Zetecs give us a shout, oh if you are using a whole engine Mk1 Mondys are the best!
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