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[frstlad]

hi all, would would i have to do to put an escort gti 1.8 zetec e engine into my cvh fiesta si?

i take it that it should go in ok altho it is a zetec gti from an escort?

[Tanya]

You will have to change to engine mounts. Dunno what else

[frstlad]

i take it that its the only one on the left, i was gunna do that anyway, any good site sto do this?

[Tweek]

Escort engine differences:

- Gearbox, sandwich plate & starter motor
- Alternator bracket, drivebelt & pulleys
- Engine mountings need changing to fiesta zetecs

You can use the CVH gearbox as far as I know but will need the Fiesta zetec sandwich plate if you don't keep the Escort box (best to use a Fiesta gearbox whether it's Zetec or CVH as the starter motor is on the back of the Escort engine.)

[frstlad]

but will it go in? what would i have to do to fit it?

[Tweek]

It will go in easy, all the engine bays are the same. Just make a note of what I listed above I'm in the process of fitting an Escort engine into my fez but that was a Zetec originally anyway.

[frstlad]

well that panel that the mount gos on im just gunna order hat from work and weld it in so then the mount will be there, its only a panel that is welded to the mk3 neways lol

i dontthink that the gearbox would fit so was gunna use a different one, what do i do with the starter motor etc, will it all have the same powersterring pums etc

[Tweek]

Why replace the pannel? You don't need to? Plus getting it welded will be a mission.

The starter motor's simple, use a Fiesta CVH/Zetec gearbox and Zetec sandwich plate and just bolt it up on the front Fiesta styleee lol.

As for the pumps, the escort PAS pump is different so you'll need the fiesta one along with the bracket it all goes on, and the Zetec drive belt, the tensioner and idler pulley is already on the bracket anyway.

[frstlad]

na the mount for the zetec at the left is on its own panel, if you look close at it you will see that it just welds onto the rest of the mk3, an add on if u may, i can weld it on no probs as i have got a spot welder, the joys of working in a bodyshop and for fords

[SiZT]

the Si, 16V and RS1800 mounts just bolt on the back of the engine and straight in the hole anyway, or use a CVH 1, it just doesn't line up with 1 of the bolt holes

[frstlad]

really, is that it? just not one bolt hole?

could make something p add to it bit like the zvh mount?

[hb69]

you will have to drill a hole for the zetec mount as the hole is located slightly differently to the cvh one. and unless your using solid gearbox mounts i would suggest using the front engine mount too, project_xr2i_trackcar wrote about how to fit one of those in his 2.0 conversion guide.

[Ollybee]

http://www.fiestaturbo.com/forums/1-6-8 ... 7-vt92943/

It's basically the same conversion.

[frstlad]

cheers fella, illhave a good lil read now

[frstlad]

what would you say was best? solid gearbox mounts or using the front mount?

as for the pas pump, you say use the fieta one, do you mean use the fiesta cvh one? soz to keep asking but must get it right as we are doing the change on the 10th of nxt month and want to get it all sorted in my head before i get it done,

i will source a fiesta zetec sandwich plate also, so with that sandwich plate and the fiesta (cvh/zetec?) pas pump and the mounts, anything else i needto no about that can be a pain?

[Maff Si]

what would you say was best? solid gearbox mounts or using the front mount?

Both
Pearl do a cheap Diesel/zetec gearbox mounts Part No: PEM-5614 (if the rubber mounts are ok you can use the escort ones)

as for the pas pump, you say use the fieta one, do you mean use the fiesta cvh one? soz to keep asking but must get it right as we are doing the change on the 10th of nxt month and want to get it all sorted in my head before i get it done,

Zetec fiesta one, unless the guide or anyone else can tell you differnt

i will source a fiesta zetec sandwich plate also, so with that sandwich plate and the fiesta (cvh/zetec?) pas pump and the mounts, anything else i needto no about that can be a pain?

No? know?
I'm gessing that if you have a CVH Si it's a 1.4

Do you have a 1.6 Si, 1.8 XR2i or RS1800 Loom?

i'd recommend using the escort gti gearbox if it is in good nick, or selling it to me you will need to replace the reverse light switch with a fiesta one) i prefer having the starter at the rear altho you may require longer leads to the battery

[frstlad]

soz its just the engine and no gearbox, and as for the engine, yes it was a 1.4 cvh si engine

i was thinking of using the bk engine mount and uprating the 2 gearbox mounts to hold it in nice and tight

[xrsi]

thats the best idea. uprate the gearbox mounts to the vibratech ones and a proper fiesta zetec engine mont that bolts to the drivers side of the car.

where the engine mount bolts to the car on the drivers side a new hole will need to be drilled to accept the difference between the cvh and zetec mounts, this is perfectly safe just needs careful measuring and then a suitable rust proofing afterwards.

if you are using a fiesta gearbox you will need to have the starter mounted at the front anyways so all your existing cables will fit for the power etc.

you will also need a fiesta zetec loom so that you can just plug in to the fiesta wiring and everyting will be the corect length then so you can see easily where things should connect to, and that way it will ease any problem solving that you may have after the engine ahs been fitted.

[frstlad]

i was told that the cvh mount would be ok, as 2 of the 3 bolts would line up and would be ok to hold it, as for the mounts, would diesel mounts work fine?

the egine is a 1.8 zetec from and escort, and i will be keeping the cvh gearbox

[Maff Si]

I will be using the Pearl diesel gearbox mounts, they are stiffer than the std zetec ones from ford and a lot cheaper too

[xrsi]

i was told that the cvh mount would be ok, as 2 of the 3 bolts would line up and would be ok to hold it, as for the mounts, would diesel mounts work fine?

the egine is a 1.8 zetec from and escort, and i will be keeping the cvh gearbox

um no!

they have 3 bolt holes for a reason, use the proper mount that is designed for the job.

[Jur]

I myself did the opposite .. fitting a CVH (turbo) to an fiesta Zetec engine bay

a few things to keep in mind:
- IB5 Gearbox of an escort mk5 has 2 types .. starter in front.. or starter at the back .. For a fiesta you'll prefer the one on the front.
- BC (b5) CVH gearbox will fit, although you'll might have to change the flywheel and clutch over too..
- CVH engine side mount fixing is about 1,5 to 2 inches more to the front .. you'll have to replace it .. or mod it (drill a hole more to the back .. and grind off the front part) (Zetec engine head needs more space)
- CVH engine bay doesn't have the front engine mount fixing plate.. you could either weld it on to op the original beam.. or open the front plate.. shove the plate in.. and weld it fixed.. (of course you'll have to drill some holes in the beam to fit the bolts)
- loom .. get one from say a zetec fiesta (1.6 Si) is the easiest..
The rest .. will be pretty straight forward.. IMHO

[Maff Si]

if you have the gearbox from the 1.8 zetec escort i'd use that unless your CVH one has had a recent recon

(!) if the escort gearbox has a front mounted starter you may need to lenghthen some of the Battery/Alt/starter cables (!)

[Jur]

if you have the gearbox from the 1.8 zetec escort i'd use that unless your CVH one has had a recent recon

(!) if the escort gearbox has a front mounted starter you may need to lenghthen some of the Battery/Alt/starter cables (!)

The 130BHP 1.8 16v escort had a rear mount starter on it's ib5 (some had the MTX75 box).. the 105BHP 1.8 16v escort had a front mount starter on the IB5 box
Don't know about the 115BHP one though
The fiesta 130BHP and 105BHP both had the starter @ the front

[frstlad]

well its all taking place now tomorrow so fingers crossed, ill take plenty of pics and maybe do a guide or something with any helpfull info