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[flick]

Hi guys i'm interesed in dropping a zetec either 1.8 or 2.0 engine into my fessi 8v. Seen info on doing a 16v and rs to zetec but not many people seem to have done the 8v or is it impossible or am i just blind
Anyone done it or know how or just generally got a clue please

[xr2i 1649]

u can do try http://www.fiestaprojets.com and http://www.zetecinside.com bits from them well help u (they r helping me to do it ) i am going some alpha thottle bodies they cost£1500 but u get all the bits and it tells u wot 2 do (http://www.webcon.co.uk) 1800cc 155bhp and 2000cc 165bhp thats std

[chumkila]

aaah 1649 thats something i was thinkin bout in the past.

[Codey]

I had it done!

Had a G-Reg XR2i and got a 1.8 Zetec Engine from the breakers (the 115bhp version from the mk5 Escort Si).

Unfortunately i couldnt tell you much about how to do it, as i didnt do it myself (i'm not much of a mechanic!) .

I recall that i had a radiator from an RS1800 (most likely the same as the xr2i 16v), and i had an exhaust from an RS1800 aswell (also probably the same as the xr2i 16v), and Clutch. I was using a gearbox from an Orion 1.6 CVH (better ratio's), so i guess it'll probably be ok with the standard gearbox.

In total it cost me £1152, which was for the engine, all of the other parts i needs + new K&N induction kit, and fitting. But i thought it was well worth it, as it brought a whole now lease of life to it ! .

I've moved on now, i've got an X-Reg Silver Zetec-S, which i love!.

Bill

[flick]

Yeah i've seen both sites and info is good but i guess the basic questions are
a: are the looms ecu etc all the same ?
b: is the engine bay the same size mounts etc ?
I'm going to attempt to do it myself, for finantial and challenge reasons, money being the primary. Got offers of around 400 for a 2.0 zetec with 20k on so gonna try that. Anyone else got any info please reply, happy motoring

[xr2i 1649]

the engine bay must b the same if u can get a 2L zvh in then a 2L zetec is the same(but big head)

[Project]

http://www.fiestaprojects.com

The engine will fit, no probs. Here's what I know about the engines:

8v 2i -> 16v Zetec

General
There are 3 different Zetec engines which will easily fit into the Fiesta engine bay - the series 1, which has "DOHC 16v" cast into the rocker cover, the series 2 ("Zetec E":wink:, which has "Zetec 16v" on a red rocker cover, and "Zetec" on a plastic-textured rocker cover for the series 3, ("Zetec R":wink:, engine.

Other versions of the Zetecs (that I know of!) include the Yamaha-designed all-aluminium engine used in the Zetec-S and Puma Racing models. Exhaust and inlet manifolds are back to front, making mounting less simple, but definitely possible given the right components.

The Focus ST170 engine is an evolution of the Zetec-R, producing 170bhp.

Oh, and the 2.0L Zetec-Cosworth Turbo engine used in the Focus Rally Cars

Fitting
Series 1 and 2 engines use the standard Fiesta Zetec engine mounts, which bolt into the o/s chassis rail.

The Series 3 requires a custom engine mount to be made, the sump must be ground to accept the starter motor, and the alternator ends up stuffed just below and to the right of the header tank.

Cooling, starting and charging
Use the rad, and coolant pipework from a 16v Mk3 Fiesta and I think the starter motor and alt from the engine you are fitting.

Flywheel and clutch
Use the flywheel from the engine you're using where possible - this will normally, but not always, fit the gearbox.

Gearbox
This choice is up to you - the RS1800 or 2i 16v boxes may prove best, but there's nothing stopping you using an XR2, ERST, FRST or 1.1 pop plus box of you want.

Management
Currently a subject of much debate, the general thinking is that the sensors and ECU from the RS1800/2i 16v engines are best used on all variants of the Zetecs in a Mk3 Fiesta, but if you're a wiring genius, make the correct management systems fit. Immobilisers, airbag wiring and air conditioning wiring are just some of the problems you have to patch out.

In a 2i 8v, a pre-94 loom will be a straight swap. Fuel tank and pump will be fine - the Zetec fuel regulator will maintain the correct fuel pressure fine.

Exhaust
You'll need a Zetec manifold, downpipe and exhaust for a factory install, or have a company like Powerflow make your exhaust fit the Zetec downpipe.

As far as the sump is concerned, the 2.0L variant was only fitted to the Mondeo and Focus models I believe, so you will need a Fiesta or Escort sump pan.

Ideally, you'll need to get hold of an accident damaged Zetec Fiesta. A 92-94 model will be easiest to transplant, although the late RS1800 and Si models can be swapped in, but you'll need to patch out the immobiliser wiring, as well as the engine you want to run, whether this is an 1800 or 2L variant.

Hope this helps a bit




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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Project ST2000 on 2002-04-02 22:27 ]</font>

[flick]

Wow Project Impressed ! I'd got most of that before but the biggy was whether the 8v was the same as the 16v and bar looms and wiring the answer seems to be yes. Zetec Cosworth is the stuff dreams are made of but i think ill try the 2.0l first . The idea about crashed zetec fiesta is a good one, was gonna try and get a rs1800 but i guess i could get any, suppose a rs1800 would be the best bet though. Could the immobiliser be re-wired to be used do you think ?
Gonna start sourcing bits and prepping the car over the next few weeks with an aim of doing it all in a month off the road so i'll keep you posted .
Cheers

[Project]

If you take the full car loom, and that's everything down to the door lock mechanisms, I'm fairly sure it's possible to retain the PATS system - otherwise you'll have to patch it out.

[Paul RS1800]

I have a complete RS1800 engine, gearbox, clutch and everything else that goes under the bonnett - see the for sale section

[BOB.T]

Hey Flick, good luck

I'm thinking of doin the same thing, I have a thread a bit lower down

Let me know how you get on, maybe we can hold each others hand and sawp notes:grin::grin::grin::grin:

Bob

[Asad]

Im planning the same thing soon!
Shame we aint closer to each other, we could have made it a group effort!


Lets see how it goes!

Asad

[BOB.T]

"sawp" obviously being the latern term for comparing results of similar experiments

Bob

[moulder]

I have been interested in installig a zetec into my G reg 2i mk3. But Im not fussed about wiring and little problems of rads etc, but I am worried about the engien and gearbox mounts. I know that the later mk 3's had an 1800 zetec but the power figures are less that that of other 1800 zetec engines. What is the difference between all of these engines, and is there any difference in engine mounts between two litre and 1800, as I really do not know which engien to go for. Once I no im gonna run out and get one. Some one please help