Zetec-S rear beam and Focus rear discs on the Type-R

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Zetec-S rear beam and Focus rear discs on the Type-R

Postby AdrianFRST on Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:33 pm

Beam me up - Type-R gets handling and braking for the 21st century...

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- Focus rear stub axel assemblies, discs, pads and calipers £90 total
- 2001 model Mk5 Zetec-S rear beam. £70
- Escort Mk5 RS2000 handbrake cable £20

Total cost for improved handling and rear disc conversion - £180. Bit of a bargain eh!

Why Focus rear discs won't fit a mk3:

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Only one of the four bolt holes line up. The pattern on the Focus is identical to the mk5, and the later mk5 beams are a direct fit on the mk3. mk3 drums won't fit a mk5 beam.

Mk3 at the back, Mk5 at the front:

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Note stronger gusseting.

Focus disk components:

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On the car:

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Mk3 setup:

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Mk5 setup:

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Postby iceman on Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:39 pm

Impressive :o

21st century handling at 60% of the cost of using RS2000 or 2wd items. Too bad is all to late for me to carry this conversion out....

Well done chaps :)
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Postby chumkila on Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:39 pm

A brilliant peice of info there. :)
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Postby sunnyFRST on Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:44 pm

good good....now get a decent turbocharged lump in there! :P ...oh and stop hitting the rev limiter when reversing out of your drive! :lol: ;)

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Postby MikeyXR2i on Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:48 pm

Hope we are gonna see a nice and clean disk setup on that Type-R,
like the setup below.

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Are they just temporay for Pics?
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Postby AdrianFRST on Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:51 pm

Cleaning doesn't make it go faster or stop quicker ;)
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Postby SimonT on Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:52 pm

thats a wicked piece of info. cheers ade :)

where any other sundry parts needed?
Too old and too bald.
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Postby Sphinx on Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:53 pm

:o Good read!

Will this work the same on a mk 3.5 cos of the rear suspention differences?
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Postby AdrianFRST on Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:54 pm

Longer flexi hoses, that's it.

Be aware that this setuo is 10mm per side wider than drums. Fortunately the car had 10mm spacer blocks on and the necccessary arch work to clear.
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Postby dannyboy on Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:55 pm

Adrian is this just a matter of unbolting the old stuff and replaceing it with new, you didn't have to modify the rear beam to get it to fit did you?
Was goin to get the Fiesta Centre rear disc kit next month but if I can do this and get the reat beam for less £ I know which I'll be gettin :D

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Postby AdrianFRST on Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:55 pm

sphinx ::o Good read!

Will this work the same on a mk 3.5 cos of the rear suspention differences?


Yep.
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Postby AdrianFRST on Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:58 pm

dannyboy :Adrian is this just a matter of unbolting the old stuff and replaceing it with new, you didn't have to modify the rear beam to get it to fit did you?
Was goin to get the Fiesta Centre rear disc kit next month but if I can do this and get the reat beam for less £ I know which I'll be gettin :D

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Yes.

No mods to the beam at all.

At the moment we don't have the handbrake cable functional (Ford didn't have it in stock, will be here this week). Shouldn't be too much hassle to fit.

Prices will depend on your breaker.
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Postby Sphinx on Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:58 pm

Jus 1 more thing. wot about ARB's? z-s doesnt have 1 does it?
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Postby AdrianFRST on Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:00 pm

sphinx :Jus 1 more thing. wot about ARB's? z-s doesnt have 1 does it?


Nope, doesn't need it.
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Postby Sphinx on Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:03 pm

Ur very quick @ this replyin lark aint ya Ade :P
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Postby MikeyXR2i on Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:03 pm

Ade, just one thing, what handbrake cable are you gonna be using?
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Postby Sphinx on Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:05 pm

MikeyXR2i :Ade, just one thing, what handbrake cable are you gonna be using?


Escort Cossie.
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Postby mmogenius on Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:05 pm

Why spend all your time cleaning the car... you just waisting driving time...
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Postby AdrianFRST on Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:05 pm

MMo ordered an Esc Cos one.

Might need a bit of tweaking, but that's no problem. ;)
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Postby MarkFRST on Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:07 pm

sphinx :Jus 1 more thing. wot about ARB's? z-s doesnt have 1 does it?


If you put the beams up on their end, and hold the bottom, you can twist the frst beam with arb quite alot,
do the same with the mk5 beam and it won't twist at all, its sooo much stiffer.

As Ade says, it doesn't need an arb.
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Postby chumkila on Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:08 pm

i dont clean my car AND i dont drive it! :D
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Postby MikeyXR2i on Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:09 pm

yeah, when i did mine, the half moon thing was hitting the floor of the car, as it was bigger on the new cable. So i put the smaller one off the fiesta cable, and that was the only tweak needed.
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Postby FezzyMK3.5 on Mon Jul 21, 2003 12:49 am

U feckin barsteward !!!!
Ive just spent £290 on my rear disc conversion and still aint got calipers :o i wanted an uprated rear beam aswell !
Thanks for ruining my month guys ! :rolleyes: :(
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Postby elm_us on Mon Jul 21, 2003 1:16 am

nice one chaps keep it up boys :wink:
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Postby fiestakingfisher on Mon Jul 21, 2003 1:26 am

cool ;)
Mine was supposed to have rear focus discs a yr ago, but scrappy said to me £100 for pair of rear hubs / discs / callipers etc... I persuaded parents to pay (safety issue...), then when I went to collect, they changed minds to £100 a side. grrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Postby xrsi on Mon Jul 21, 2003 2:18 am

what focus they off?
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Postby AdrianFRST on Mon Jul 21, 2003 8:45 am

Any 2.0 Focus has rear discs I think.
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Postby Mexi on Mon Jul 21, 2003 9:54 am

excellent :D

i know whats comming next :D
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Postby Stoned on Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:06 am

1.8 Focus does too
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Postby mmogenius on Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:16 am

louise these are the very same disks that you were going to get... but i payed £45 a side...

Better luck next time :bonkers:
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Postby TJ on Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:21 am

Ooho bugger!!!

Top price there!!

Anychace of a sticky guide to this?
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Postby mmogenius on Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:26 am

there is no need for a guide mate it's really simple all you have to do is bolt everything on you cant go wrong seriousaly you cant...

but that's besides the point....

DONT copy me :P you buggers :P

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Postby Gadget on Mon Jul 21, 2003 12:30 pm

Ade, i've been toying with doing this with these parts to my fiesta but i kept selling on the bits for escort conversions ( ££'s ) Now i have run out of bits for my car!! :rolleyes: !! :lol: :lol:
What you need to do now is to get the St170 caliper carriers and discs, then you'll have 278mm rear discs! you can retain your caliper as all the do is move the holes out on the carrier to make the caliper sit further out :wink: , the caliper is actually the same ( also used on the St160 Puma )
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Postby TJ on Mon Jul 21, 2003 12:33 pm

mmogenius :there is no need for a guide mate it's really simple all you have to do is bolt everything on you cant go wrong seriousaly you cant...


Hey!! You aint read the thread about the cossie splitter have you! Fukkin thing!

Wont be doing it to this car anyway, next one though! :wink:
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Postby Ian C70T5 on Mon Jul 21, 2003 12:36 pm

I'm using 20mm spacers on the drum..

Does fitting the wider track rear beam move the wheel away from the wheel much, just thinking cause if i would need to keep the large spacer, it could cause major problems with my arches

Plus i assume, all Focus 2L large brake conversions will fit happily on this
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