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Zetec-S rear beam and Focus rear discs on the Type-R : General Car Discussion - Page 4 | Fiesta Forums

Zetec-S rear beam and Focus rear discs on the Type-R

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Postby andyhardy on Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:55 pm

BTTT'ing this post as well then to see if anyone has successfully fitted RS2k rear discs with the ZS rear beam.

I'm assuming that the AVO coilovers will slot into place as everyone else seems to have no problems :)

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Postby sweeny on Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:03 pm

andyhardy :BTTT'ing this post as well then to see if anyone has successfully fitted RS2k rear discs with the ZS rear beam.

I'm assuming that the AVO coilovers will slot into place as everyone else seems to have no problems :)

Cheers,

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We'll find out in the next month or so, but i'll be putting new GAZ coilovers on.
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Postby andyhardy on Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:07 pm

sweeny :
andyhardy :BTTT'ing this post as well then to see if anyone has successfully fitted RS2k rear discs with the ZS rear beam.

I'm assuming that the AVO coilovers will slot into place as everyone else seems to have no problems :)

Cheers,

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We'll find out in the next month or so, but i'll be putting new GAZ coilovers on.


I'm confident the suspension is fine - as long as it fitted the car before.

Just wondering about the RS2k disc setup as I have my braking setup perfectly now and don't want to change it to solid discs :)

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Postby AdrianFRST on Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:02 pm

andyhardy :BTTT'ing this post as well then to see if anyone has successfully fitted RS2k rear discs with the ZS rear beam.

I'm assuming that the AVO coilovers will slot into place as everyone else seems to have no problems :)

Cheers,

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Shocks will be fine with a late beam, brakes won't mount up as the RS2k bolt patten is the same as the mk3 drums, which is different to the Zetec-S / Focus pattern.

You'll need to swap to the Focus disks. RS2k are solid disks too AFAIK, there's no need for vented on the back.
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Postby sweeny on Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:11 pm

AdrianFRST :
andyhardy :BTTT'ing this post as well then to see if anyone has successfully fitted RS2k rear discs with the ZS rear beam.

I'm assuming that the AVO coilovers will slot into place as everyone else seems to have no problems :)

Cheers,

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Shocks will be fine with a late beam, brakes won't mount up as the RS2k bolt patten is the same as the mk3 drums, which is different to the Zetec-S / Focus pattern.

You'll need to swap to the Focus disks. RS2k are solid disks too AFAIK, there's no need for vented on the back.


Good job i got focus ones then :)
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Postby andyhardy on Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:50 pm

Errr no - they're a drum/disc arrangement seeing as they're fitted to my car already.

I've heard bad things about the solid rear disc conversions causing the back ends to lock up even with the load aportioning valve being adjusted to suit.

f**k it - I'll stick with the original plan and use a different beam instead :)

Thanks all the same! :lol:

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Postby FezzR on Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:50 pm

if you do get locking up problems then its not difficult to fit biasing valves
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Postby andyhardy on Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:04 pm

FezzR :if you do get locking up problems then its not difficult to fit biasing valves


Why bother with solid discs in the first place though if you're just going to adjust it all away to the front? Might as well just stick with mk5 drums!

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Postby FezzR on Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:07 pm

why would you bias it all to the front?
the idea of a bias valve is to adjust in small amounts, so that you can have the maximum amount of braking without it locking up
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Postby andyhardy on Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:06 pm

FezzR :why would you bias it all to the front?
the idea of a bias valve is to adjust in small amounts, so that you can have the maximum amount of braking without it locking up


Because the solid rear discs from a bigger/heavier car are overkill on a Fiesta - hence my concerns at fitting them if changing to a mk5 rear beam, I'd rather stick with the mk5 drums than do that in all honesty!

Just seems like a waste of money when I've got a set of perfectly good RS2000 rear discs working on the car perfectly and that I don't wish to change. Before anyone asks - yes it is enough for me to change my mind about changing to a Puma/mk5 rear beam :)

I'm seriously interested in changing the rear beam setup - having driven the mk4 Escort Cabriolet on shagged suspension I cannot believe the amount of confidence the car has given me with it's lack of understeer and rear end poise when cornering hard. This makes me think there must be a better setup possible for the Fiesta without having to make changes to the brake setup, obviously I was wrong. Never mind, I've been wrong before but at least I'm a big enough man to admit it, unlike alot of people on this forum.

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Postby FezzR on Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:34 pm

andy it was a suggestion for people that have a setup on already that want to tweak it slightly, not as a complete answer.

it has been said many times in the past, a well set up and good condition drum setup is just as effective on a small car like a fiesta (before anyone pics holes, yes theres always exceptions and wanting better looks etc)
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Postby andyhardy on Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:41 pm

FezzR :andy it was a suggestion for people that have a setup on already that want to tweak it slightly, not as a complete answer.

it has been said many times in the past, a well set up and good condition drum setup is just as effective on a small car like a fiesta (before anyone pics holes, yes theres always exceptions and wanting better looks etc)


The solution is a tried and tested one IMO - the RS2000 rear disc setup.

Not alot of people know about them as they're quite rare now (rear disc'd RS2000s I mean - they only did the rear discs on them during the production run of the 4x4s). The setup has a disc on the outside with small calipers and ickle pads, plus a drum in the middle for the handbrake :)

That's why I don't want to change it - it's perfect for the car and makes the car handle beautifully when braking on the turn (e.g. coming up to a roundabout - the last 100 yards are always on a turn, well they are around here) so I don't really want to change it.

I have other plans but I'm in the feasibility assessment stage of the plan! :lol: 8)

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Postby MotorcyclesFish on Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:13 pm

IIRC the practical maximum braking the rears can effect is something like 10-15% on a fwd car and 20-25% on a rwd car. :)

Keep the drums. Paint them red and put a brembo sticker on. :lol:
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Postby andyhardy on Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:16 pm

MotorcyclesFish :IIRC the practical maximum braking the rears can effect is something like 10-15% on a fwd car and 20-25% on a rwd car. :)

Keep the drums. Paint them red and put a brembo sticker on. :lol:


Thanks Mr Fish - I'll put a poll up in a minute to help me decide what shade of red I should go for!

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