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Postby chumkila on Tue Feb 05, 2002 12:04 pm

Sorted. I'm with ya on "you justy have to know EXACTLY what to do."

P.S. "Oh and my dad is a european patent attourney." Not being bad or anything but i guess this explains why ur so arrogant. But if we didnt have different people on the earth the world just wouldnt be the same.

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Postby Murph on Tue Feb 05, 2002 12:20 pm

meo can you do that to my 1.6 cvh engine on carbs for 300 quid...140 ponys is all good.
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Postby Guest on Tue Feb 05, 2002 2:44 pm

Well 140hp from a carb engine that lasts two years or more (it is still going) of constant and I mean constant thrashing to the redline would be unreliable, according to people on this post, so do you really want one? Oh prices are quoted on what I can get at the time, depends on the price of the carb really, everything else is peanuts though. But the answer is yes. This is what it cost me as a break down:

1.6 engine £40
twin 40s (and pump) £100
gas flowing £0
full exhaust system £50
gaskets, bearings £peanuts
acid dip £5 the lot
New seats and valve grinding £20 (i think)
Then bits and bobs bumped it up to £300 cost price.

Hows this all sound? I've got a 1.6 kickin around could use that if you want, unless you have one. e-mail me for a proper discussion on it if your serious.
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Postby chumkila on Tue Feb 05, 2002 4:33 pm

On 2002-02-05 13:44, me0u021e wrote:
I mean constant thrashing to the redline would be unreliable, according to people on this post, so do you really want one

140 Carb'd CVH sounds pukka m8! and yes its reliable if set-up right like the Carb'd CVH u have done. Goodman. :smile:

But turbo'ing as in the case of the Zetec engine that this thread refers to is a different league all together.

Murph i say go for it m8, you cant go wrong for that price. :wink:
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Postby Guest on Tue Feb 05, 2002 4:40 pm

Ah chumkila you sound like you know a good engine when you hear of one!

Hmm, turbo isn't really any different, if you look at it on paper that is, thats what you have to bear in mind, non of this try it and if it blows up you learn not to do it again. Engines do exactly what you tell them, harness the variables to be on your side and then there is no difference, apart from the numbers that come out the other end, nice BIG NUMBERS!!!!
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Postby chumkila on Tue Feb 05, 2002 5:32 pm

yes but its harnessing the variables in the first place! :grin:
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Postby gar mae on Wed Feb 06, 2002 12:09 am

Me0 what camshaft were u using in the 1.6 cvh and I take it you were doing the gas flowing yourself, so do you have access to a flow bench then???
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Postby festajon on Wed Feb 06, 2002 3:29 am

Hey capri, u never accepted my challenge? have i buttered u up the wrong way? I'll race u in my SOUPed up bread roll. I know most of them are past their 'sell by date' by now but mine still TOASTS the opposition EGGvry single day!

What's the estimated 0-60 of your car then meu just outta interest? or if u got a rough time for a qurter mile then that would be nice too.

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Postby dorno on Wed Feb 06, 2002 1:34 pm

Well Jon I think I'm gonna have to accept that challenge :lol: :lol: :lol: I'll take you on but only if there's a nice bit of CRUMPET watching!

My omelette's no LEMON, it'll give any opposition a good GRILLING so I'll have you any day at the PUD.... that is, unless you're FRYtened! My omelette's got every EGGStra available. And it was cooked in a CVH (cooking very hot) frying pan. So bring it on! :rolleyes:
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Postby Biagi on Wed Feb 06, 2002 2:28 pm

Murph, I would encourage you not to deal with these fudgeheads :smile:
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Postby Guest on Wed Feb 06, 2002 2:40 pm

Yep got a flow bench, who hasn't they ain't exactly rocket science to make, your only testing that all ports are the same, and better than standard.

Cam, well it was a standard cvh 1.6 cam.

Biagi, hi, nice to see your veiw on the subject is valid, not, look at the spec, react to the situation then eat your own "fudgehead". I don't really see anything there that would "stress" the engine do you? Like I'll say again and again till the cows come home, ITS THE fudgeING SETUP OF THE ENGINE THAT MATTERS!!!!!!!! PS, what you built thats so good? got any experience? doubt it.
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Postby The Bruster on Wed Feb 06, 2002 4:45 pm

Dunster, the reason that RX7 was running on 101 RON fuel is because its a japenese import, all high perforance jap imports are desisgned to run on 101 octane fuel, if I was being a fussy git I should be running my soarer on it but can't be arsed to use standard optimax (a mere 98 RON)....

so there :razz: whos a clever boy then?

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Postby gar mae on Wed Feb 06, 2002 5:29 pm

What was the spec of the head, size of valves etc???
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Postby Guest on Wed Feb 06, 2002 6:14 pm

'89 1.6 cvh orion efi head. Didn't measure size, just made them all have the same flow rate. Bear in mind a blue printed engine can gain quite a bit of power over a same spec non blue printed, people don't seem to realise this free power is available.
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Postby The Bruster on Wed Feb 06, 2002 9:17 pm

I did the arkwrigt scholarship!!!! mis read one of the quesions and did 2 sollutions as aposed to teh required 3 (first exam we were allowed to talk in and I got carrried away chin wagging) as a result I faild, but my results were still withing the top 10 of the country :razz::razz: lol
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Postby Guest on Thu Feb 07, 2002 2:25 pm

Hmmm... This post seems to have died down a bit, and got off the zetec turbo front quite sufficiently.
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Postby Guest on Thu Feb 07, 2002 2:25 pm

Hmmm... This post seems to have died down a bit, and got off the zetec turbo front quite sufficiently.
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Postby cubby240 on Thu Feb 07, 2002 3:16 pm

I would very much like a set of those twin 40's for £100 can you get me a set?
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Postby ¤§ÜpÅHH--©HïCKëN¤ on Thu Feb 07, 2002 3:28 pm

i belive the me0u021e guy in what hes saying..........but hes still a tw@t lol. his mouth is going to get him into trouble one day :lol: :lol:
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Postby ¤§ÜpÅHH--©HïCKëN¤ on Thu Feb 07, 2002 3:30 pm

or should i say i belive "a lot" of what he says..just before i get b|tched at :smile:..................oh dear............ *clutches his handbag* what have i done!! :aaah:
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Postby andymac on Thu Feb 07, 2002 3:59 pm

You came back onto the forums m8. WIth a veedub too !

THE CHARGE IS TREASON !

THE PENALTY : DEATH BY errr

in you case PAXO seems appropriate :razz:
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Postby Guest on Thu Feb 07, 2002 4:40 pm

Why does £100 for a set of 40s seem unreasonable? Probably could get a set, price isn't a fixed variable, depends what people have got that they don't want at the time. If you want to spend £££ on stuff then thats up to you but I hunt about first to get the best deal there is. Theres always someone chuckin stuff out for peanuts, just got to be there when they do.
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Postby ¤§ÜpÅHH--©HïCKëN¤ on Thu Feb 07, 2002 6:15 pm

i wonder if they actually come from liverpool too ? hey hey hey hey hey hey....and i wonder if they still wear shell suits? and the reason he gets parts cheap...well..........no need to ask............ :lol:
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Postby cubby240 on Thu Feb 07, 2002 8:57 pm

:???: :???: :???: EEEEEEERRRRRMMMMMM

I WAS JUST ASKING IF YOU COULD GET ME A SET CAUSE I NEED SOME FOR AN XR2 I HAVE.

I WOULD BE WILLING TO SWAP FOR A SET OF TWIN 45'S WITH A MANIFOLD.



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Postby Guest on Fri Feb 08, 2002 10:57 am

Been onto the rsoc and they all seem pretty cool over there, actually respect a new design instead of going "my mate bayjoo blah blah blah"
Not from Liverpool just at uni here, and oh my god do they wear shell suits, illuminous green all in one with illuminous pink socks pulled up over the trousers finished off with cream adidas cap and rebok clasic trainers. NICE!
Do you want DCOE or DCNF 40s cubby240? Just sold off a set of 40s for £100!! Gas flowed manifold too! I'll investigate though, send you a pm when I've got some ok.
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Postby cubby240 on Fri Feb 08, 2002 1:16 pm

DCOE's Please.
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Postby andymac on Fri Feb 08, 2002 5:58 pm

PAXO ! PAXO ! PAXO ! PAXO !

OK It's totally off topic, but I just can't help myself. It'll be omlettes next.... :lol: :lol:
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Postby freak power on Fri Feb 08, 2002 6:10 pm

me0u021e, you got a flow bench is it a flow bench superflow 110. what was the cfm on the cvh head( Cubic Feet per Minute ) on that standard cam at full lift.
Then i might have one of thous heads of you then what would a stage 3 head cost then. :grin:

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Postby Al1exx on Fri Feb 08, 2002 10:22 pm

"Well mental mk2 its a bit complicated. The car runs off a laptop effectively. **I wired the sensors and actuators up to the I/O ports and** then data is processed in a stand alone program where variables can be changed at will."

Aaaaaages ago in this post this comment was put up. Ignore all the stuff in ** this area about sensors for a moment.

I'm getting an ECU from the states (or, more honestly I'm sending my ECU to the states) where it is being rebuilt and will come back with a lovely laptop port and a disc full 'o software!

I will then be able to program it to run my car in various ways allowing me to run a Turbo, NOS, supercharger or whatever using the standard ECU sensors, neatly avoiding rising rate fuel regulators etc. etc. It can also be programmed to run different injectors, retard ignition etc. etc.

Cool eh!! A good friend of mine 'pointed me in the right direction' as I floundered looking for tuning options. But what is really handy is this. As you all know even standard engines are slightly different engine-to-engine due to manufacturing variances. But the manufacturer has to make 1 ECU to fit all so it can't take YOUR engine variances into account, but my new ECU will and can be fine tuned for MY engine. Straight away I will be able to benefit and each time I add even the smallest thing I can fine-tune at home! Can't wait!! I'll spend the rest of this year saving for it tho... :sad:

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P.S. sorry, not for a FRST or ERST, it's for a Rover.
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Postby Excursion on Sat Feb 09, 2002 1:30 am

OH YES!!! TO RIGHT MATE

MY friend andy (Andy_xr2i) from nottingham pointed me in this direction a while ago - they've got it wired :wink:

I'll jsut take this chance to say Hi Andy and hope the Puma's going FINE
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Postby Andy_XR2i on Sat Feb 09, 2002 7:05 pm

Ka'ching! Namecheck!

Yeah, cool mate, the car's a babe.
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Postby Excursion on Sun Feb 24, 2002 5:57 pm

meo stop being so agressive

NOBODY! has run an engine from a laptop before to my knowledge - the only time laptops come into it in road applications is for fine tuning - not real time processing.

Formula one teams run huge servers for their engines - you know people in formula 1 dont u so may be able to shed light on this
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Postby festajon on Sun Feb 24, 2002 8:49 pm

There was an article aaaaaaaaaaaages ago in revs (alright was about a year ago) on a subaru impreza shootout. It was called something like 'tuners vs net techies'. The basis was about 15 scoobys went along to a rolling road, 6 or 7 on a 'modified standard' ecu such as maybe a superchip or whatever scooby tuners favour, and the rest were all run off laptops where they could tweak things between runs to gain optimum power. I think the results weren't that different tho and where the chips lost out the laptop systems runnin the same mods were only up 4 bhp or something. bearing in mind that the could adjust everything for whatever conditions, it didn't seem the biggest increase in the world. Bearing in mind scoobys run 250 bhp+, 4bhp works out at under a 2% increase in power.
All these cars had similar mods too like zorst, induction kit, uprated turbo
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Postby Project on Mon Feb 25, 2002 3:53 am

On 2002-02-24 16:57, Excursion wrote:
meo ... you know people in formula 1 dont u so may be able to shed light on this


Yes, of course he does.

And I know the man in the moon.

And I'm shagging his wife.

And his daughter.

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Postby Excursion on Mon Feb 25, 2002 7:07 am

hey i was trying to be nice, it hurt man, and now youve pissed on my bonfire :lol:
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